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  • 01-08-2011 12:35pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31


    Hi all,

    My girlfriend is currently shopping around for cars on the net and she came accross this site called wesourcenecar.com. it is a garge currently based in Clonmel Co. Tipperary. they source cars from the uk on spec you give them in their online form and they source the car for you. But when you fill in this form they ask you to agree to their terms and conditions but there is no link to read these terms and conditions. so im wondering will we have to buy the car if they do source it? or could we refuse to buy it if we don't like it? would be very greatful for any information about this or if anyone has ever dealt with them before

    thanks guys and gals


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  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Buy your car elsewhere, anywhere else that isn't in any way similar to such an operation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    A work colleague bought a car from them recently. Very little bargaining but the car was as described and no problems since.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    RoverJames wrote: »
    Buy your car elsewhere, anywhere else that isn't in any way similar to such an operation.

    Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    EPM wrote: »
    Why?

    Perhaps because they ask you to agree to 'Terms and Conditions' that are not readily available ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    So for example:
    I tell them i'm in the market for a green Passat, they buy one from the UK, give me a look at it, and I'm under no obligation to buy and dont have to pay for it before they actually bring it over?

    don't know anything about this place, but I dislike any one who spells "any" as "NE".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    Perhaps because they ask you to agree to 'Terms and Conditions' that are not readily available ?

    Lads, this is part of a main dealer by the way and quite a big one.

    Do you know what these mysterious terms and conditions are?


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    EPM wrote: »
    Why?

    Along with the likelyhood that the price was less than competitive compared to similar cars sourced by traditional methods..........
    EPM wrote: »
    A work colleague bought a car from them recently. Very little bargaining but the car was as described and no problems since.
    .......................I wouldn't buy a pair of socks from any crowd who operate as described below.
    ........... But when you fill in this form they ask you to agree to their terms and conditions but there is no link to read these terms and conditions..............


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    So for example:
    I tell them i'm in the market for a green Passat, they buy one from the UK, give me a look at it, and I'm under no obligation to buy and dont have to pay for it before they actually bring it over?

    don't know anything about this place, but I dislike any one who spells "any" as "NE".

    I helped my work colleague when she was buying it. The actual car was in transit at the time. She was given good detail on the car, had the option of waiting to see it or place a deposit. She chose a small refundable deposit. They are UK cars but I have to say it was all very professional and above board.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    wesourcenecar.com allows customers to tap in to our 30 year experience and at the same time allows you to access our database of 250,000 UK and Irish cars.

    Over the past 2 years through our partners at The Mordaunt Group we have initiated contact with motor dealerships 24 cities of which 9 are of the largest motor groups in Great Britain.
    It sounds like you pay them to have some Indian guy sit and source the car on carzone or similar sites for you.
    Tbh, if you do more research yourself you'll probably pay less in the end for an Irish reg car cutting out the middleman - and escape their currency converter fee of €149 too.

    Btw, there is no Service Agreement on the site I could find.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    EPM wrote: »
    Lads, this is part of a main dealer by the way and quite a big one.

    Do you know what these mysterious terms and conditions are?

    Oh sure it must be grand so if they're a main dealer.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    RoverJames wrote: »
    Along with the likelyhood that the price was less than competitive compared to similar cars sourced by traditional methods..........

    .......................I wouldn't buy a pair of socks from any crowd who operate as described below.

    So you have no experience of them? The car came in cheaper than anywhere else and had the bonus of cruise control and dual zone climate control that the Irish models didn't have.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    RoverJames wrote: »
    Oh sure it must be grand so if they're a main dealer.

    Simply highlighting that it wasn't operated from a shed in a yard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭snowman707


    EPM wrote: »
    Lads, this is part of a main dealer by the way and quite a big one.

    Do you know what these mysterious terms and conditions are?

    do they give a warranty ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    snowman707 wrote: »
    do they give a warranty ?

    It was a 2 year old Ceed SW diesel that has the remainder of the manufacturers warranty. They are KIA dealers anyway too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    biko wrote: »
    It sounds like you pay them to have some Indian guy sit and source the car on carzone or similar sites for you.
    Tbh, if you do more research yourself you'll probably pay less in the end for an Irish reg car cutting out the middleman - and escape their currency converter fee of €149 too.

    Btw, there is no Service Agreement on the site I could find.

    Essentially that's what it is alright. But if you don't want the hassle (some don't) it works. Remember noticing quite a lot of cars being delivered the couple of times I was there. All UK vehicles.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    EPM wrote: »
    So you have no experience of them? ......

    Absolutely none which is quite obvious from my previous posts in this thread to anyone with more than 2 functioning brain cells :D
    EPM wrote: »
    ......... The car came in cheaper than anywhere else...........

    Cheaper than any windscreen prices or from half baked conversations no doubt, cheaper than anywhere else not a hope.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    RoverJames wrote: »
    Absolutely none which is quite obvious from my previous posts in this thread to anyone with more than 2 functioning brain cells :D

    Hence the reason I highlighted it, to show that you are saying to avoid purchasing there based on no experience whatsoever.

    RoverJames wrote: »
    Cheaper than any windscreen prices or from half baked conversations no doubt, cheaper than anywhere else not a hope.

    I helped out when she way buying, travelled to a few KIA dealers in Cork and Limerick and their price was lower for than the others. Face to face bargaining and they beat the other dealers. Although at the time there were very few of the particular model available for sale.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    EPM wrote: »
    Hence the reason I highlighted it, to show that you are saying to avoid purchasing there based on no experience whatsoever. ..........


    So you think it's wise to agree to unknown terms and conditions? Seriously?
    Yes or No will suffice as an answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    unless you're giving your bank account details on the form, I doubt there's anything to worry about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    RoverJames wrote: »
    So you think it's wise to agree to unknown terms and conditions? Seriously?
    Yes or No will suffice as an answer.

    Of course not. But calling them enquiring about a car as was the case IN MY EXPERIENCE was nothing out of the ordinary compared to any other dealer experience.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    unless you're giving your bank account details on the form, I doubt there's anything to worry about.

    Exactly. No one ever reads them anyway:D

    It's just and inquiry at that stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    EPM wrote: »
    Exactly. No one ever reads them anyway:D

    It's just and inquiry at that stage.

    IMO I always have to giggle at the people that don't read the T&C's when signing up for things and then start getting Junk mail/Spam or start getting 'Updates' on their phone saying to stop Text 'STOP' to 53XXX :)

    This company wants:

    Contact Information:
    Name: Phone: Email:

    I'd want to know what the terms and conditions were before I handed personal information over to a any company.

    Bank account details aren't your only worry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    This company wants:

    Contact Information:
    Name: Phone: Email:

    I'd want to know what the terms and conditions were before I handed personal information over to a any company.

    Bank account details aren't your only worry.

    It's the same info many would give over the phone or indeed face to face to a salesperson. Just another avenue for approaching them. Admittedly, there should be a link to the t&c's but I wouldn't dismiss purchasing there on that front.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    EPM wrote: »
    It's the same info many would give over the phone or indeed face to face to a salesperson. Just another avenue for approaching them. Admittedly, there should be a link to the t&c's but I wouldn't dismiss purchasing there on that front.

    For you maybe not, for me I wouldn't bother, if they are a professional crowd the site would be setup correctly.

    If you rang up and gave those details and then the person said "Do you agree to the Terms and Conditions" would you just say yes without asking what they are ?


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    For you maybe not, for me I wouldn't bother, if they are a professional crowd the site would be setup correctly.

    ........

    But they're a main dealer, and quite a big one too ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    RoverJames wrote: »
    But they're a main dealer, and quite a big one too ;)

    RoverJames, you're misrepresenting what I actually said. I highlighted that they were in business a long time, are franchised dealers and have not just sprung up overnight. There are quite a few places acting as agencies at the moment (been threads on here) that are just one man operations that may be hard to track down if anything went wrong. There is a degree of comfort in purchasing from a dealer at times.

    @keithclancy, at no point was there any reference to any terms and conditions on inquiry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    EPM wrote: »
    @keithclancy, at no point was there any reference to any terms and conditions on inquiry.

    http://www.wesourcenecar.com/contentv3/index.cfm?keyword=Startsourcing

    By clicking the “Complete Form” button, I am attaching my electronic signature to and agreeing to the WesourceNEcar.com Terms of Service Agreement;

    What do you mean ?

    Its also in the OP's post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    http://www.wesourcenecar.com/contentv3/index.cfm?keyword=Startsourcing

    By clicking the “Complete Form” button, I am attaching my electronic signature to and agreeing to the WesourceNEcar.com Terms of Service Agreement;

    What do you mean ?

    Its also in the OP's post.

    Like I said already, my colleague called over the phone when inquiring. There was an advert on carzone and she didnt use their website.

    I agree the T&C's is a bit strange but there was nothing different in the dealings to any other buy. The terms should certainly be shown but apart from that it was a straightforward deal for her.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sorry Sir.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    For you maybe not, for me I wouldn't bother, if they are a professional crowd the site would be setup correctly.

    They are a professional company. But they sell cars not internet sites, so their site is sh!te. Most of the car dealers sites that aren't carzone based are as bad and a lot of none motoring companies are as bad.
    If you rang up and gave those details and then the person said "Do you agree to the Terms and Conditions" would you just say yes without asking what they are ?

    So you'll give your details to some one over the phone before asking what they'll do they will do with it and won't give the same details to a website. Or what happens when you ring up and give your details but they don't even ask if you agree to "Terms and Conditions" how do you manage then?

    The only extra info they want that they don't already have from a phone call is your email address.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    RoverJames wrote: »
    Sorry Sir.
    You've let me down, you've let EPM down but most of all

    chips-1.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 Shangrove


    You cant say that until you visit their garage.. have you bought or visited there garage your self ??? i did and i must say i was impressed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 mone




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 skinnylenny


    These terms and conditions were not on the web site when we were looking at it. It must have been recently added but thanks for putting up the link very helpful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭spursman11


    was in contact with this company last week,specs on cars imported are better,pay €500 deposit,pay vrt and balance when you collect the car,from the t&c s ,you can get a full refund at any stage before final payment,they are giving a 60 day warranty on a 2008 car but an option for 12months additional warranty for €320


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,842 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Sorry to rake up an old thread folks.
    Any body do any business or experience of this company????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭spursman11


    didnt do business with this firm in the finish as after they deducted the €500 deposit they failed to come up with a car requested,initially had one delivered but when they saw it they said wouldnt sell it ..some damage to it,long story shor they seemed to be trying to get me a car that was above my budget.they returned my deposit by cheque ,no issue.bought a car off local garage direct for €3500 cheaper than this place .overall well worth a look


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