Formula 1 - Irish Rights

Infoanon

Setanta currently hold the Irish TV rights to formula 1 (although its simply a relay of BBC), with Sky acquiring the UK rights whats the impact on the Irish rights ?

I assume Sky have bought the rights for the UK and Ireland ?

mjsmyth

I've no idea, but the BBC haven't lost all rights... they will be showing 1/2 the races live and highlights of the other.

If you can receive 19.2e, RTL show the F1 fta.

MJ

Minstrel27

The BBC will be showing all races in full. The ones not shown live will be delayed by a few hours. I don't think that is too bad a situation.

The Cush

Minstrel27 wrote: »

The BBC will be showing all races in full. The ones not shown live will be delayed by a few hours. I don't think that is too bad a situation.

BBC sources are saying something different

First the subject of what the BBC will show on the 10 weekends when SKY has the exclusive live rights. Although FOTA chairman Martin Whitmarsh says he has had assurances from Bernie Ecclestone today that the race will be shown in its entirety a few hours delayed on free to air, BBC sources say that this is not the case and that the show will be around 75 minutes, meaning extended highlights with brief introduction and post race analysis.

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2011/07/new-details-of-co-operation-between-sky-and-bbc-emerge/

icdg

Infoanon wrote: »

Setanta currently hold the Irish TV rights to formula 1 (although its simply a relay of BBC), with Sky acquiring the UK rights whats the impact on the Irish rights ?

I assume Sky have bought the rights for the UK and Ireland ?

The facts as we know them are as follows:
- The BBC has withdrawn from its existing agreement to cover Formula One effective from the end of the 2011 season.
- Sky Sports have bought the rights to cover live all of the FIA Formula One World Championship, including free practice, qualifying, and the races, for both the UK and Republic of Ireland.
- The BBC has bought the UK television live rights to show the qualifying sessions and races for ten Grands Prix. The BBC say that the ten Grands Prix will include the British Grand Prix, the Monaco Grand Prix, and the last race of the season.
- The BBC will show what FOM call "extensive same day delayed highlights on TV, online and mobile for all races and qualifying sessions it is not showing live."
- The BBC has also bought the UK live radio rights.

It *appears* that Setanta's existing deal is intact for the remaining period it continues to run. Unusually the Sky Sports deal is non-exclusive, and the BBC will continue to cover half the races live and simulatanious with Sky Sports.

I've often wondered why Setanta bother with F1 at all. Since this season they've dropped their own commentary/presentation and it is effectively the world feed with the audio of BBC One. The big issue is that every person who has access to Setanta Ireland has also got BBC One. So why would you bother watching the same programme with no buildup and ad breaks? From next season I expect however they will see a dramatic increase in viewers for the races not on the BBC.

Theres a big thread on this over in Motorsport incidently, though I'm happy for this to remain open as its also in this forum's remit.

Formula One Management announcement:
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2011/7/12372.html

Elmo

icdg wrote: »

It *appears* that Setanta's existing deal is intact for the remaining period it continues to run. Unusually the Sky Sports deal is non-exclusive, and the BBC will continue to cover half the races live and simulatanious with Sky Sports.

It seem likely. What happens after 2013 do BBC and Sky have F1 right in Ireland as well?

afatbollix

Setanta get F1 cheap due to ratings and that they pick up the suport races so its huge hours of TV for very cheap..

Setanta have the rights for 2 more years. The main question I am asking is will they make SKY sports block themselfs for Irish subscribers like they make them do with some football.

icdg

afatbollix wrote: »

Setanta get F1 cheap due to ratings and that they pick up the suport races so its huge hours of TV for very cheap..

Setanta have the rights for 2 more years. The main question I am asking is will they make SKY sports block themselfs for Irish subscribers like they make them do with some football.

I wasn't aware that any Sky football was blocked in Ireland??? A small amount of ESPN football - UEFA Europa League coverage - is blocked in Ireland on some platforms, as was some ITV Sport programmes. Not Sky as far as I know, can you give some examples?

The answer is likely to be "No", as FOM specifically mentioned Ireland in the press release.

Elmo

afatbollix wrote: »

Setanta get F1 cheap due to ratings and that they pick up the suport races so its huge hours of TV for very cheap..

Setanta have the rights for 2 more years. The main question I am asking is will they make SKY sports block themselfs for Irish subscribers like they make them do with some football.

Setanta get F1 cheap in comparison to BBC and Sky because they buy the games for a smaller population base, however they paid more then RTÉ to win such rights, the question remains for such a small population with access to BBC was it worth it for a Pay TV station to pay similar rates to FTA Irish stations for such events. Setanta has to insure it subscriptions base is funding such events unlike FTA channels which automatically have a large audience and thus larger advertising.

The question is can Setanta hold on to subscribers over the coming years, of course it would be nice to know how many Subscribers Setanta have. (Excluding UPC/Magnet customers for Setanta Ireland, and I wonder how long that will last?).

channelsurfer2

my guess is probably less than 10,000 full paying subscribers. the rest are all on half price offers....and i bet sky will actually put in a proper bid for the 3pm soccer kickoffs next time.( they nearly won it the last time according to some reports but setanta just outbid them).

Elmo

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

my guess is probably less than 10,000 full paying subscribers. the rest are all on half price offers....and i bet sky will actually put in a proper bid for the 3pm soccer kickoffs next time.( they nearly won it the last time according to some reports but setanta just outbid them).

Nothing stopping RTÉ, TV3 or TG4 together with Setanta to provide 3pm soccer kickoffs. Alá Sky and BBC F1 rights.

Would it be much more when you include special offers etc, how many Sky Sports subscribers btw?

fatgav

Setanta Sports have tweeted that their F1 covrage will continue next season. I don't know about anything thereafter. While I was a critic of their coverage this year, given they were adding nothing to it, picking up F1 has proven to be a shrewd investment because fans here will now be able to see the races live without picking up SKY Sports, for next season at least.

Elmo

fatgav wrote: »

Setanta Sports have tweeted that their F1 covrage will continue next season. I don't know about anything thereafter. While I was a critic of their coverage this year, given they were adding nothing to it, picking up F1 has proven to be a shrewd investment because fans here will now be able to see the races live without picking up SKY Sports, for next season at least.

For those how have UPC, Eircom and Magnet. Those with sky still have to pay for Setanta Sports, and unless Setanta can block Sky Sports from Irish viewers during F1 their shrewd move will just see customers moving to Sky.

mikeym

Does Setanta have the rights to Formula1 this year?

icdg

I believe the forthcoming season is the last year of their current deal. However you shouldn't have dragged up a two year old thread to ask that question.