Torchwood: Miracle Day - Episode 4 *Spoilers*

Richard Dower

Nice to see C. thomas Howell again after his stint on Southland
So, death camps?...and the baddies are connect to Mr. WWII
Bit slow in parts this ep., Alan Sepinwall sums it up nice, Davis dosen't have enough material for 10 episodes so there is alot of filler...like this episode with Heather and her sister :rolleyes:

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/torchwood-miracle-day-escape-to-la-baby-were-the-same

Dunno, show isin't great....bugger all on Friday, only reason i'm watching as the last two episodes were a a fair bit fillery, just feels a bit dragged out.

Gambler

Yeah, I have to say I keep waiting for it to "start" if you know what I mean? Haven't felt any "oh - what's going to happen next" moments really and I find I amn't actually that curious about the mysteries..

I dunno, maybe it's the fact that we know people can't die - I just find it difficult to get very tense about action scenes. Add to that the potential for stupidity like

why the hell didn't they take your man away with them after shooting him in the chest. I know she said something about his being shot in the throat but given how well people keep going after being "killed" (your woman from doll house walking up to the car with her head turned around backwards in EP 2 for example) then surely he could have picked up a pen and written down any answers to questions they have... Knowing they can't kill him would have made getting answers out of him much easier too!

I dunno - so far the show really just isn't doing it for me so far and after watching children of earth just before the series started I found it even more of a let down so far..

vitani

I've always loved Torchwood but find myself not particularly looking forward to each episode in this series. They're enjoyable but forgettable.

I think it's lacking humanity - there needs to be more of Rhys and characters like him. Ordinary people just caught up in what's going on. The rest are so busy trying to fix things or manipulate the situation to their own advantage - he's just feeding the baby and trying to keep an eye on Gwen and her family.

Torchwood has lost something in the "translation" from UK to US... but what exactly, I can't quite put my finger on.

Maybe it is the lack of ordinary people, as well as the Hub? No mention of the rift, or any rift activity either - or if there was I missed it.

Four epiodes in now, and I find I'm getting bored. Its very slow getting to wherever its supposed to be going. I'll still watch, but its disappointing me so far, considering how long I waited for this series to come back.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

So far, it has been fairly crap - its not the same Torchwood I once knew and loved. I can see myself giving it one more episode before deciding whether to drop it or not.

pixelburp

To be honest, it's all stunningly average at this point, there's little to be bringing me back to watch another episode; I'm in two minds whether I'm bothered to catch #5. As a franchise, I really don't see the "Torchwood" in this beyond the lip-service paid to the remaining cast & the cutaway scenes in Wales. As an actual series, the pacing is stunningly leaden & to be 4 episodes in with three of those being (in effect) filler is pretty ham-fisted by any accounts.

And then there's the characters - oh boy oh boy, where do you even start picking apart that motley crew? Ironically, despite being a horrendous ass at the start, Rex has turned out to be the only sensible human being. The rest are either tremendous idiots such as Esther, or lazily clichéd objects of satire such as the Tea Party lady. I couldn't believe they trotted out that stereotype in full force, RTD really has the subtly of a tank in a parking-lot.

And as for Gwen and Jack, they just act like drunk passengers; not quite sure what they're doing in this by-the-numbers mess so appear to just be faffing about.

iguana

pixelburp wrote: »

I couldn't believe they trotted out that stereotype in full force, RTD really has the subtly of a tank in a parking-lot.

This episode was written by John Shiban, not Davies. Most of the episodes are being written by American writers. Jane Espenson wrote last weeks and Doris Egan wrote the episode before that. It's weird, these are good writes, Shiban writes for Breaking Bad, Espenson wrote some great episodes of Buffy, BSG. Egan is a regular writer for House. But they obviously aren't getting it right on this show. They should have kept it in Wales and stuck to the 5 episodes/1 week format.

pixelburp

iguana wrote: »

This episode was written by John Shiban, not Davies. Most of the episodes are being written by American writers. Jane Espenson wrote last weeks and Doris Egan wrote the episode before that. It's weird, these are good writes, Shiban writes for Breaking Bad, Espenson wrote some great episodes of Buffy, BSG. Egan is a regular writer for House. But they obviously aren't getting it right on this show. They should have kept it in Wales and stuck to the 5 episodes/1 week format.

Yes, but it's RTD who invariably calls the shots - he's the chief writer / series producer, so the direction the writing takes goes through him, even if he's not directly involved in the scripts themselves. He'd be the one giving the plot / character / set-piece outlines during production meetings, the buck would stop there. It was the same with Who - even if he wasn't writing an episode, his tropes were still there to be seen.

The Recliner

Man they really have screwed the pooch with this one

it is utter drivel so far with very little of what makes it Torchwood

Bill Pullman is enjoyable in it though

Flashgordon197

I have only watched the previous series before this one

and I still like this series. The death camps are a good idea (story wise!) and the death of the doctor from the UK was shocking and a reminder of the way Torchwood just torches its main people.

Real curve ball as the americans say. Bill Pullman is doing well as is the black CIA dude. Sorry Im useless at recalling character names!