BMW presents electric car

mb1725

BMW unveiled the new i3 electric car today and released details of the i8 hybrid concept.



http://news.yahoo.com/bmw-rolls-electric-i3-i8-models-171028867.html

-Corkie-

Why must all these electric cars look hideous???

Leonard Hofstadter

-Corkie- wrote: »

Why must all these electric cars look hideous???

Let's try to be kind to it, at least it's rear wheel drive.

JMSE

bring it on, i'll be gettin a 2nd hand one probably in about 10 yrs

-Corkie-

captainspeed wrote: »

Let's try to be kind to it, at least it's rear wheel drive.

Very true but can they can they not electrify a normal car that actually looks OK. Look at the Octy for example, all the space for those laptop batteries in the boot....:pac:

PseudoFamous

The i8 is pretty sci-fi, I kinda like it.

tw0nk

looks like an Audi R8

JMSE

There is the need for as close to zero drag as poss to get the most from the batteries I suppose. Halfway 'chargehouses' might be a new feature on the landscape like the coach-house of old where the horses needed to be changed or overnighted. Can't see how any of these electric cars would bring a family from dub to kerry with luggage.

jhegarty

JMSE wrote: »

There is the need for as close to zero drag as poss to get the most from the batteries I suppose. Halfway 'chargehouses' might be a new feature on the landscape like the coach-house of old where the horses needed to be changed or overnighted. Can't see how any of these electric cars would bring a family from dub to kerry with luggage.

Fast chargers will charge a car in 30 minutes.

So one 30 minute stop between Dublin and Kerry wouldn't be unrealisable.

Mycroft H

Typical motors response: I'll never drive that. Its not a BMW unless it has a straight 6 2.8 litre petrol. rabble rabble rabble


The more electric cars manufactures make the more the inclined the esb will be to roll out these rapid charging points. Its ultimately the future and we have to embrace it a some stage

-Corkie-

landyman wrote: »

Typical motors response: I'll never drive that. Its not a BMW unless it has a straight 6 2.8 litre petrol. rabble rabble rabble


The more electric cars manufactures make the more the inclined the esb will be to roll out these rapid charging points. Its ultimately the future and we have to embrace it a some stage

Good point but as I said why cant they make them look half normal. This is Ireland and the majority of the car population want normal looking cars and not something bizarre looking..:)

GhostInTheRuins

-Corkie- wrote: »

landyman wrote: »

Typical motors response: I'll never drive that. Its not a BMW unless it has a straight 6 2.8 litre petrol. rabble rabble rabble


The more electric cars manufactures make the more the inclined the esb will be to roll out these rapid charging points. Its ultimately the future and we have to embrace it a some stage

Good point but as I said why cant they make them look half normal. This is Ireland and the majority of the car population want normal looking cars and not something bizarre looking..:)

Are you sure about that? ive seen way too many jukes and other hideous looking yokes about the place...

Mycroft H

GhostInTheRuins wrote: »

Are you sure about that? ive seen way too many jukes and other hideous looking yokes about the place...

In fairness its not just the juke, you can pretty much include all nissans in that statement

mb1725

From bmw.com

Compton

honestly they're mad looking yokes.. but I havent read up on it and don't know if those will actually be released.. they look like concepts.

x in the city

until electric cars get as much miles as normal gasoline engines they are going to be a pipe dream.

i work in battery stuffs and thats basically electric cars summed into a few words..

the battery pack for the tesla sports car is a monster and has huge capacity. if it was installed in a tinny car like a nissaan leaf it would run for hundreds of miles but its not financially viable.

batterys are big things now tho...!

zod

-Corkie- wrote: »

Good point but as I said why cant they make them look half normal. This is Ireland and the majority of the car population want normal looking cars and not something bizarre looking..:)

If only...

zod

x in the city wrote: »

until electric cars get as much miles as normal gasoline engines they are going to be a pipe dream.

i work in battery stuffs and thats basically electric cars summed into a few words..

the battery pack for the tesla sports car is a monster and has huge capacity. if it was installed in a tinny car like a nissaan leaf it would run for hundreds of miles but its not financially viable.

batterys are big things now tho...!

The power to drive the electric motor is provided by a set of lithium-ion batteries with a liquid-cooling system that are mounted within the central section of the floor. They can be fully recharged in six hours using a standard power socket. If a high-speed charger is used, an 80 per cent charge can be achieved in one hour. The batteries offer a driving range of around 120km to 160km (80-100 miles).

BMW will also offer an optional Range Extender called the REx, which allows the electric driving range to be increased. The REx comprises of a small displacement petrol engine that drives a generator which maintains the battery charge level and therefore extends the range of the electric motor. BMW says that to reduce fuel consumption, REx also features such functions as Automatic Start-Stop and other intelligent operating strategies.

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2011/07/bmw-i3-concept-pure-electric-hatchback.html

x in the city

zod wrote: »

The power to drive the electric motor is provided by a set of lithium-ion batteries with a liquid-cooling system that are mounted within the central section of the floor. They can be fully recharged in six hours using a standard power socket. If a high-speed charger is used, an 80 per cent charge can be achieved in one hour. The batteries offer a driving range of around 120km to 160km (80-100 miles).

BMW will also offer an optional Range Extender called the REx, which allows the electric driving range to be increased. The REx comprises of a small displacement petrol engine that drives a generator which maintains the battery charge level and therefore extends the range of the electric motor. BMW says that to reduce fuel consumption, REx also features such functions as Automatic Start-Stop and other intelligent operating strategies.

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2011/07/bmw-i3-concept-pure-electric-hatchback.html

100 miles driving range or whatever is useless.

I wouldnt buy one.. fast charges would yield even less than 100 miles..

its going to be quite a long time until electric cars really become useful and drivers dont have to stock underwear in the glove box from crapping themselves looking for charging outlets in the middle of nowhere..,.

zod

x in the city wrote: »

100 miles driving range or whatever is useless.

I wouldnt buy one.. fast charges would yield even less than 100 miles..

its going to be quite a long time until electric cars really become useful and drivers dont have to stock underwear in the glove box from crapping themselves looking for charging outlets in the middle of nowhere..,.

*blinks*


BMW will also offer an optional Range Extender called the REx, which allows the electric driving range to be increased. The REx comprises of a small displacement petrol engine that drives a generator which maintains the battery charge level and therefore extends the range of the electric motor.

x in the city

zod wrote: »

*blinks*


BMW will also offer an optional Range Extender called the REx, which allows the electric driving range to be increased. The REx comprises of a small displacement petrol engine that drives a generator which maintains the battery charge level and therefore extends the range of the electric motor.

ummm

so like a prius

in other news... the pope declares himself a profound christian catholic...!

Do-more

x in the city wrote: »

ummm

so like a prius

in other news... the pope declares himself a profound christian catholic...!

No not like a Prius. It's petrol engine drives the wheels, whereas in this it is solely for charging the battery.

The vast majority of journeys are under a 100 miles, most people would have no difficulty in using one of these on a daily basis.

The only problem is they are too dear and battery replacement costs make them expensive to run.

But break through's will come, electric is most likely the future.

FlashD

-Corkie- wrote: »

Good point but as I said why cant they make them look half normal. This is Ireland and the majority of the car population want normal looking cars and not something bizarre looking..:)

How do you know the majority of the irish car population want.... as you say 'normal looking cars'?

Where are you getting these facts from? Have you done a survey or something?

Your attitude is so typically irish.... the rejection of anything new, futuristic and exciting..... the fear of looking odd! Are we supposed to drive around today's car 'designs' for the next 50 years or what?

Makes me wonder how we managed to get beyond driving the Model T sometimes in this country.:rolleyes:......and this is why nothing of note ever gets designed in Ireland because it's boring, retarded and out of date.:)

As for the photos of cars Zod uploaded...yeah ...boxes! Give me the BMW!

Regards.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

landyman wrote: »

Typical motors response: I'll never drive that. Its not a BMW unless it has a straight 6 2.8 litre petrol. rabble rabble rabble

No typical Irish motorist response is " I'll never drive that, its not a BMW unless its got a noisy bone shaker of a 4 pot desiel engine, sure its 158 euro a year in tax which off sets the 10k extra I paid for it no problem." or a real BMW fanboy (like me) would ask if a 2.8litre straight is really big enough.

langdang

Do-more wrote: »

No not like a Prius. It's petrol engine drives the wheels, whereas in this it is solely for charging the battery.

Yup, not like a prius at all. Pope announces that he's going for a dump in the woods, and that all bears are Catholic. (I think the small engine might be a rotary actually, that's what Audi were using for range extender?).

BMW had electric MINI's on trial for a good while. Pity they didn't go with them - that i3 is gammy looking*. If they had scaled up the MINI Rocketman "urban mobility" concept it would have been cool.


*Is it just me or are BMW grilles getting more gammy by the day? Squinty new 1 series, and then this i3 thing?

Shane732

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=71073925

Good to see people are keeping up to date!!

It seems all you futuristic electric car loving people are behind the times!

Shane732

landyman wrote: »

Typical motors response: I'll never drive that. Its not a BMW unless it has a straight 6 2.8 litre petrol. rabble rabble rabble


The more electric cars manufactures make the more the inclined the esb will be to roll out these rapid charging points. Its ultimately the future and we have to embrace it a some stage

What is BMW's latest 2.8 straight 6?

pajo1981

100 mile range will last the average irish person 3 and a half days.

http://www.seai.ie/News_Events/Press_Releases/2006/Transport9thAug06.pdf

Heroditas

pajo1981 wrote: »

100 mile range will last the average irish person 3 and a half days.

http://www.seai.ie/News_Events/Press_Releases/2006/Transport9thAug06.pdf

Is that because the average person takes the bus or train to work?

pajo1981

Heroditas wrote: »

Is that because the average person takes the bus or train to work?

People who train/bus it into work usually live in suburban areas and would be the well suited to EVs.