Do regeneration kids live on your street?

xi

Why do regeneration parents feel their kids can do no wrong?

What is with the constant pyjamas?

anyone care to vent?

I'd like to hear the definition of a "regeneration kid". First i've heard of this term

xi

shaaane wrote: »

I'd like to hear the definition of a "regeneration kid". First i've heard of this term

I will try...

A kid spawned from an all day pyjama wearing blinkered uneducated mother who is barely understandable and refuses to conform to her current environment.


You either know what I am talking about or you haven’t had pleasure of this type of temporary neighbour.

TestTransmission

LOL

post reported

xi

TestTransmission wrote: »

LOL

post reported

report away, unfortuantly experience rather than prejudice initiated the post.

Insect Overlord

Mod note: I'm tentatively giving this thread a shelf-life of about 13 hours. 2 of those are already gone. Lay off the back-seat modding and the sarcastic replies, folks. I'm interested to see where this goes, and if my cynicism will be proven ill-placed.

Seloth

I'm in UL only but a few families have been moved into the area and quite a few times teens/early-mid 20's have start fights with students.I've luckily not come across it but my house mates once coming back from the former night club at the lodge were confronted with three fellas,one with a baseball bat and the other two with sticks.

Luckily a large gang of lads that one of my room mates knew came around the corner 2 mins later and they darted off.

One or two stores like that but not too many luckily.

I can understand the need for regeneration and having to re-locate the families for a period of time but there was obviously bad planning put into many of these decisions.

hatz7

ya, those bandits flying around the place like erm....children.

They have a sense of humor though, last week my friend found a cat in the back seat of his easily openable (is tha a new word?) N Micra, there was this n that on the back seat, he cleaned it up. A day later he went into the car, there was more of this and that in the car. He checked under the pasanger seat and found a hedgehog.

man, I laughed!

Roadend

shaaane wrote: »

I'd like to hear the definition of a "regeneration kid". First i've heard of this term

Obviously they're like them borg fellers out of star trek

Berty

They might be regeneration families(County Council), they might be HSE families, the might be accord families, they might Thomond Housing, Cara, Respond and even more different companies(I'm sure)

metamorphosis

Ahh the old pyjamas wearing kids and unpleasant parents who are more child like than the children they had ..

I just hope you realise that not every child and mother from regeneration areas are 'regeneration kids' as you so PCly put it. Lots of decent hard working respectable people in those areas too. Not everyone from regeneration areas are regeneration kids.

daveob007

metamorphosis wrote: »

Ahh the old pyjamas wearing kids and unpleasant parents who are more child like than the children they had ..

I just hope you realise that not every child and mother from regeneration areas are 'regeneration kids' as you so PCly put it. Lots of decent hard working respectable people in those areas too. Not everyone from regeneration areas are regeneration kids.

Yes but sadly it does not seem to be the ordinary hard working families who are being placed in estates all over Limerick. the scum are being given houses in decent areas ruining the lives of the people who are hard working decent people,I have seen this all over Caherdavin where I live and the whole place is under siege from young thugs and their scummy parents/parent.
Many of them don't last long but are replaced by the same type of antisocial families,not fair on the ones who are paying big mortages and chose these areas for the peace and quiet which is now shattered.

Simon Adebisi

Yup, im in oakfield and there's a family 3 doors up. Hearing a girl aged less than 10 shout "ill stab you, four eyes" to a woman walking by says it all really.

Filth.

Berty

Frankly I'd wear a Pyjamas all day if I had:

Social Welfare / Illness / Disability / Carers
Child Benefit
House for €25 a week
No new Government €100 P/A Tax
Free Furniture
Free Bedding
Free Paint
Free Pots, Pans Cutlery
Free Electrical items
Medical Card (Likely)
Free Attic Insulation
Free Gas Installation

Moved into a new area whilst the suckers build me a new house someplace else.

Work. That's for suckers who have houses costing €200 a week. Pyjamas. Heck I'd never get dressed.

The Snipe

metamorphosis wrote: »

Ahh the old pyjamas wearing kids and unpleasant parents who are more child like than the children they had ..

Thats cause those kids that are wearing Pyjamas, are now parents themselves! Grandmothers by the age of 20! :D:D

Mc Love

Beer Baron wrote: »

Frankly I'd wear a Pyjamas all day if I had:

Social Welfare / Illness / Disability / Carers
Child Benefit
House for €25 a week
No new Government €100 P/A Tax
Free Furniture
Free Bedding
Free Paint
Free Pots, Pans Cutlery
Free Electrical items
Medical Card (Likely)
Free Attic Insulation
Free Gas Installation

Moved into a new area whilst the suckers build me a new house someplace else.

Work. That's for suckers who have houses costing €200 a week. Pyjamas. Heck I'd never get dressed.

Something seriously wrong with this country! I think I will use this the next time a politician comes to the door looking for a vote

Berty

Mc Love wrote: »

Something seriously wrong with this country! I think I will use this the next time a politician comes to the door looking for a vote

Did you see the EU/IMF demands for the December Budget.

Fuel Prices up / Carbon Tax
Lower cut offs on Tax bands
Property Tax

More reason to become housed socially.

Mc Love

Sure if we all decided to do that the govt wouldnt be able to fund us

Berty

Mc Love wrote: »

Sure if we all decided to do that the govt wouldnt be able to fund us

That is true but bear in mind this city and county had a high level of unemployment long before the recession. Voluntary unemployment.

Raiser

We had - 2 brothers under 10, Family seemed grand and the Kids were a howl and great with all the other Kids on the road - Permanently out building things and thinking up the next epic game, reminded me of growing up in the 80's.

- They deserved their chance of growing up well away from the many anti-social and miserable elements that I'm guessing they had in their enviornment beforehand.

donutheadhomer

xi wrote: »

I will try...

A kid spawned from an all day pyjama wearing blinkered uneducated mother who is barely understandable and refuses to conform to her current environment.


You either know what I am talking about or you haven’t had pleasure of this type of temporary neighbour.

that would be more than likely a person on rent allowance. regeneration is a permanent move. You need to speak to your neighbors about this - the people who rented them the house.

donutheadhomer

Beer Baron wrote: »

Frankly I'd wear a Pyjamas all day if I had:

Social Welfare / Illness / Disability / Carers
Child Benefit
House for €25 a week
No new Government €100 P/A Tax
Free Furniture
Free Bedding
Free Paint
Free Pots, Pans Cutlery
Free Electrical items
Medical Card (Likely)
Free Attic Insulation
Free Gas Installation

Moved into a new area whilst the suckers build me a new house someplace else.

Work. That's for suckers who have houses costing €200 a week. Pyjamas. Heck I'd never get dressed.

I think the 25euro is a bit of an exaggeration. I know someone renting a council house - single person with child paying 55euro pw. That said, this figure is low but their income also is low.
Do you really get Free Attic Insulation?

Berty

EurasianBadger wrote: »

Do you really get Free Attic Insulation?

The Majority would get it as most properties in the city are pretty old. 4 people I know got it and one of their houses is actually only 6 years old.

LadyTBolt

EurasianBadger wrote: »

I think the 25euro is a bit of an exaggeration. I know someone renting a council house - single person with child paying 55euro pw. That said, this figure is low but their income also is low.

€25 is certainly not an exaggeration. I know a lone parent with one child renting a nice 3 bed house in Corbally. Rent is €650 p/mth and she contributes €20 p/wk towards that.

Dale Parish

Beer Baron wrote: »

Frankly I'd wear a Pyjamas all day if I had:

Social Welfare / Illness / Disability / Carers
Child Benefit
House for €25 a week
No new Government €100 P/A Tax
Free Furniture
Free Bedding
Free Paint
Free Pots, Pans Cutlery
Free Electrical items
Medical Card (Likely)
Free Attic Insulation
Free Gas Installation

You forgot the €15 per week for having a dog licence.

FGR

I'll be the bad guy here and simply state that it's not fair for anyone who has worked hard with saving and working to finally be approved for their mortgage in an area only to have people move next door to them who, regardless of social status; become a nightmare for that person and the only realistic alternative is for people to cut their losses and somehow move away from the area.

Be it Council/HSE tenants or people renting or buying privately. It's wrong. The least the Government could do is evict the trouble makers who have the privilege of renting a home for very little. Residents should be entitled to complain and have action taken against those who ruin the enjoyment of their property and social lives. Again that should apply to those renting privately too.

Those nuisance neighbours who own the house however; the laws regarding civil action for distress caused on neighbours should be improved/enforced.

Sadly..I see none of it happening and I doubt I ever will.

Simon Adebisi

The bad guy? The speaking common sense guy more like. You are 100% correct.

meoklmrk91

I know of an estate that wasn't built that long ago about four years ago I would say, nice estate in a nice area, houses were going for upwards of €300, the a certain family moved in, the parents, their their three grown up children, their partners and all their kids into four different houses. That day 13 families vacated their homes and now the only houses that have maintained their value are the ones which are farthest away from the houses these people live in. The ones which are closer are now going for just €60k-€70k. I feel really sorry for the people who bought their homes and didn't leave because now they have a house that is worth nothing compared to before this family moved in. Also I don't understand why landlords allow these sort of people to move in, I know that most of them don't care as long as they are getting their rent, but it's actually fairly stupid in the long run because they are driving down the value of the house and other properties in the area. I wonder could someone sue one of these landlords for driving down the value of their home by allowing such people to move in?

Dale Parish

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

Also I don't understand why landlords allow these sort of people to move in, I know that most of them don't care as long as they are getting their rent, but it's actually fairly stupid in the long run because they are driving down the value of the house and other properties in the area. I wonder could someone sue one of these landlords for driving down the value of their home by allowing such people to move in?

I'm going to disagree there, having known a lot of landlords I can tell you that the PC brigade generally jump in followed by outcries of discrimination when "rent allowance tennants" are not wanted on the property.

Berty

Mostly a landlord will rent the house to the HSE and the HSE put whoever they see fit in the property. The landlord, in most cases, have little or no say.

I know two friends whom have HSE people in their houses. One of whom was being paid rent by the HSE for 3 months and the house was not even occupied.

meoklmrk91

Dale Parish wrote: »

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

Also I don't understand why landlords allow these sort of people to move in, I know that most of them don't care as long as they are getting their rent, but it's actually fairly stupid in the long run because they are driving down the value of the house and other properties in the area. I wonder could someone sue one of these landlords for driving down the value of their home by allowing such people to move in?

I'm going to disagree there, having known a lot of landlords I can tell you that the PC brigade generally jump in followed by outcries of discrimination when "rent allowance tennants" are not wanted on the property.

I don't think there is anything wrong with. Rent allowance tennants, I know and am friends with many. I think it is unfair to hive all rent allowance tenants a bad name as the vast majority of them are normal people just trying to make ends meet. However if a tenant is antisocial then it is an entirely different story.

meoklmrk91

Beer Baron wrote: »

Mostly a landlord will rent the house to the HSE and the HSE put whoever they see fit in the property. The landlord, in most cases, have little or no say.

I know two friends whom have HSE people in their houses. One of whom was being paid rent by the HSE for 3 months and the house was not even occupied.

Hmm that's definitely interesting and great for the landlords in that they can be sure they are going to get paid, however in the event that the tenants are antisocial who would the neighbours complain to?

bernardo mac

Quite interesting and alarming.Suggests that housing situation in some Limerick suburbs is fairly chaotic , poorly planned and monitored.Underlines the belief that decent people in Limerick,as elsewhere I am sure,are,increasingly,being treated appallingly badly by local authorities and the HSE.Few executive officials from such organisations have to endure the insecurity,intimidation,the wanton damage that the feral offspring of their neighbours impose at will and with impunity.Where are the Gardai? Well they certainly don't live in in such plagued areas

Villa05

I wonder could one living in areas with antisocial behavior problems as a result of local authority tenants avoid paying the property tax.
The tax is to be used to fund local authorities.

the_blackstuff

There really is to sides to it and not all people being moved because of regeneration are bad. We recently had both sides of this in our estate with one particular house. The first time around a young couple moved in and she was pregnant at the time. I spoke to her once a came across fine. Her other half was a different story. Himself and his mates would spend most of most nights out the back smoking god knows what off there faces. Being noisy and just a general nuisance. I found one of them in my back garden at 4am on night. needless to say we had words. This was followed by a number of break ins to houses and cars all around their house. Most people put 2 and 2 together. They move one and were replaced by their polar opposites.
I will admit tho it did piss me off something that my house devalued 80 or 90 grand, my taxes were gone up, id done my best to go to college and get a job and work my way up. scrap a deposit together and end up living beside people who I was paying for the whole time!