McGeeney

leonidas83

What do you think of him as a coach lads! Personally I love watching Kildare play under him but i have noticed he's very much a disciplinarian with the players to the extent I think he alienates some of them, examples

Dropped nearly all his forwards after the game against Dublin and dropped Sean Hurley after attending Oxygen for a couple of hours.

Dcully

leonidas83 wrote: »

What do you think of him as a coach lads! Personally I love watching Kildare play under him but i have noticed he's very much a disciplinarian with the players to the extent I think he alienates some of them, examples

Dropped nearly all his forwards after the game against Dublin and dropped Sean Hurley after attending Oxygen for a couple of hours.

He dropped the forwards because they were playing way under par.
For example James Kavanagh has since responded and is in superb form recently,i fail to see what is wrong with a manager dropping those who are under performing while there are others itching to have a chance.
As for Hurley , he deserved to be dropped imo, he had a choice to play for his county or attend Oxygen he chose Oxygen on the same weekend Kildare had a crunch game against local rivals Laois.

leonidas83

Dcully wrote: »

He dropped the forwards because they were playing way under par.
For example James Kavanagh has since responded and is in superb form recently,i fail to see what is wrong with a manager dropping those who are under performing while there are others itching to have a chance.
As for Hurley , he deserved to be dropped imo, he had a choice to play for his county or attend Oxygen he chose Oxygen on the same weekend Kildare had a crunch game against local rivals Laois.

Well in all fairness he dropped pretty much all the forwards after the Dublin game, I agree some deserved to be dropped but the lot of them!! Also Hurley attended oxygen after the Laois game, a full week before the Meath match and wasnt drinking. I respect him as a manager but I think he goes too far at times with the discipline which could lead to problems within the camp. Kildare will need all their best players available and ready for the fight if they are to make the final this year, not dissatisfied with some of them alienated

Dcully

He didnt drop all the forwards, he dropped Alan Smith and James Kavanagh.
The rest have being coming in and out of the team.
Hurley attended on the Friday night also is what im hearing, im also hearing pretty much everyone in the camp agrees with his dropping,hes either committed to the cause or he isnt.
Hes a decent manager but too defensive for my liking.

Le King

In fairness he was right to drop Kavanagh and Smith. Smith has got, no game time since being dropped. But the decision to drop him should of been made much earlier as Smith has been fairly poor since playing very well at the start. Kavanagh has responded excellently.

I think Ciaran Murphy reported after the Laois game in Portlaoise that McGeeney, at the end of the match, said to Kavanagh: "Now that's how I want you to f**king perform when I pick you".

Maybe Smith isn't doing it in training but Tomas O'Connor has been a far better option for Kildare. Also I like the way McGeeney is giving Fionn Dowling a chance too. He's not afraid to have a shot either.

Overall, I'd say McGeeney has been excellent for Kildare. They have made progress every year in his four year tenure so far. If Kildare had Dermot Early or even Hugh Lynch available which would allow Johnny Doyle to get back into the forwards they would be serious contenders for the All-Ireland. I just think, right now, they are a step behind. Also, he needs to put Ollie Lyons on from the start. Such a good player on his day and has been excellent when called upon. Ollie Lyons, Morgan O'Flaherty and Emmet Bolton are Kildare's best half backs. With the option to bring Gary White on they are strong enough in that position. It's the only disagreement I'd have with Geezer.

jemser

Dcully wrote: »

Hes a decent manager but too defensive for my liking.

Too defensive!! Have you seen the score we have been getting in the championship over the last two years,Kildare are not a defensive team

J Cheever Loophole

McGeeney = Legend.

Dcully

jemser wrote: »

Too defensive!! Have you seen the score we have been getting in the championship over the last two years,Kildare are not a defensive team

Yes i have ive gone to 90% of the games.
It was his defensive nature that cost us against Dublin, spare man after o` Gara sent off and he sticks him in defence while we were 5 points down :rolleyes:, thats defensive management by anyones standards.
Hes not always defensive but ffs the whole county could see he was against the Dubs.

Eoin Cunniffe 94

i think he is a very good manager has done very well with Kildare ! hes not afraid of making tough calls and changes ! Kildare are always a good team to watch play good football and have some good players who seem to enjoy playing under Mcgeeney. he has organised Kildare made them tough to beat but they attack very well and wouldnt agree with calling them defensive.
the move against Dublin was to secure the backline win most of the ball back there and leave room for the forwards and i thought it worked well !

dcr22B

Eoin Cunniffe 94 wrote: »

the move against Dublin was to secure the backline win most of the ball back there and leave room for the forwards and i thought it worked well !

How did it work well? Dublin were leading by 5 points when O'Gara was sent off and were still 4 points behind with a minute to play. If McGeeney had any tactical nous that day, he would have seen that his initial extra man deployment wasn't bearing fruit and change the tactics accordingly. He didn't and Dublin (quite rightly, dodgy free or no) won!

Eoin Cunniffe 94

imo it worked well the Kildare forwards just didnt take the right options and ball retention was poor at vital stages the loss wasnt down to McGeeneys decisions

if he moved the extra man forward it would have played right into Dublins defensive set up it would have just added to the crowding
thats just how i seen it anyway

Dots1982

Dcully wrote: »

Yes i have ive gone to 90% of the games.
It was his defensive nature that cost us against Dublin, spare man after o` Gara sent off and he sticks him in defence while we were 5 points down :rolleyes:, thats defensive management by anyones standards.
Hes not always defensive but ffs the whole county could see he was against the Dubs.

This is a side issue but I don't get when people say they should have played their extra man in the forwards/defence.

The opposition mark who they want to mark and leave one man free in a situation when they are down to 14. Chances are they will leave the man free on the opposing team who is as far away from their goal as possible so surely its the opposition who decide who is the "freeman" not the team with the numerical advantage.

Am I missing something?