Topiary arrested.

dlofnep

Looks like they arrested the head honcho of Lulzsec. I wonder if they'll ever catch the Irish member of their ranks 'pwnsauce'. They are nailing these guys one by one.

LoLth

A quick bit of a thread reset here.

Discussing the topiary arrest is fair enough but lets try to keep the speculation of "who else do we know that could be a lulzsec member" out of it. Its not fair to individuals who are innocent and could cause others to question their motives or activities.

Lets try to limit the discussion to whats already in the public domain.

thanks

LoLth

syklops

LoLth wrote: »

A quick bit of a thread reset here.

Discussing the topiary arrest is fair enough but lets try to keep the speculation of "who else do we know that could be a lulzsec member" out of it. Its not fair to individuals who are innocent and could cause others to question their motives or activities.

Lets try to limit the discussion to whats already in the public domain.

thanks

LoLth

The other thing to remember is few people have unique handles. So some noob who logged onto a hacking channel or forum wanting info on something, and happening to have the same handle as america's most wanted could find himself in hot water very quickly.

I bring this up, because I have seen mumblings suggesting that this is the case with Topiary.

The FBI and Intepol seem to be tracking the IPs which used the Low Orbit Ion Cannon during the DOS attacks during the early days of anonymous and lulsec. Considering how many people jumped on the bandwagon, its not beyond the realm of possibility, that there are duplicate handles floating around.

PogMoThoin

He's been charged. Police say they found incriminating evidence on his computer, including 750,000 passwords and drafts of the fake Rupert Murdoch death story that appeared on the Sun website last month.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/08/lulzsec-spokesman-in-court-after-police-find-750k-passwords-on-his-pc.ars

dlofnep

It's only a matter of time before they are all caught.

chicken fingers

well they are not a hacking group so much as a group of kids with some toys and tools that hackers made a couple of years ago.
And they use those toys well enough and publicise their doings well enough.

And get caught well enough, too!

Hackers? no, just kids.
Out of the top 200 real high profile "criminal hackers" in the last 10 years about 25 have been caught.

chicken fingers

well they are not a hacking group so much as a group of kids with some toys and tools that hackers made a couple of years ago.
And they use those toys well enough and publicise their doings well enough.

And get caught well enough, too!

Hackers? no, just kids.
Out of the top 200 real high profile "criminal hackers" in the last 10 years about 25 have been caught.

Kinetic^

Media spin will make them out to be terrorists of the 21st century.

Hal Emmerich

PogMoThoin wrote: »

He's been charged. Police say they found incriminating evidence on his computer, including 750,000 passwords and drafts of the fake Rupert Murdoch death story that appeared on the Sun website last month.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/08/lulzsec-spokesman-in-court-after-police-find-750k-passwords-on-his-pc.ars

If that's true how were they silly enough to keep that stuff just lying around?

Plus how are these guys being traced?

dlofnep

Hal Emmerich wrote: »

Plus how are these guys being traced?

I'm pretty sure Topiary was ratted out.

Hal Emmerich

dlofnep wrote: »

I'm pretty sure Topiary was ratted out.

I wonder how the first fella was caught so, there's so much you can put on a computer to avoid being traced....a simple google brings up a world of stuff.

Or there not the smartest bunch and received far more air time than they deserved OR it's all to generate bad publicity to online illegal stuff used as a way to bring in nice new Internet laws.

syklops

Hal Emmerich wrote: »

I wonder how the first fella was caught so, there's so much you can put on a computer to avoid being traced....a simple google brings up a world of stuff.

Or there not the smartest bunch and received far more air time than they deserved OR it's all to generate bad publicity to online illegal stuff used as a way to bring in nice new Internet laws.

They find the first idiot. Suddenly reality hits him as the local equivalent of the FBI are breaking in his door. He sings like a canary. He doesn't know very much, but its enough to lead them to the next person. Granted, between anonymous proxy servers, free vpn links, and ssh tunnelling, if I was topiary, I would proxy around the world a few times before I joined a lulsec chatroom, that said, as M said in the movie Casino Royale "Arrogance and self-awareness seldom go hand in hand", and lulsec is pretty arrogant.

digme

I'd say they want to get arrested.

dlofnep

digme wrote: »

I'd say they want to get arrested.

I doubt that, when the reality of it sinks in. They crave the attention, which is why they were doing it in the first place, rather than for some moral principle (which is bull).

digme

dlofnep wrote: »

I doubt that, when the reality of it sinks in. They crave the attention, which is why they were doing it in the first place, rather than for some moral principle (which is bull).

Exactly they love the attention. Beforehand, they think it can't be that bad. They might even get a job out of it and plenty of attention at school.Ya morality doesn't come into it at all.

JimmyCrackCorn

Chicks love hackers.

No wait.


Attention seeking and carelessness.