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SOCCER Americas Path to Socialism

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    dooferoaks wrote: »
    Soccer is an ungodly sport leading the US to Socialism, and Satanism!!!



    Funny satirist or nutjob?
    This is priceless!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,943 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    At least the keepers gone away lightly, they can handle the ball :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,460 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    He must be a fanatical GAA fan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,973 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    It's called football anyway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,736 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    He makes some valid points and is very articulate.

    But seriously he is right about one thing.
    Back in the 20s and 30s the reason soccer never took off in the US was because it's organization dominated by immigrants (Scots mainly) and therefore they were not trusted by the rest of America, which was very inward looking at the time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Santa must be against God too :eek:

    Fear the Mexicans from Uruguay, Brazil and Peurto Rico!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Some of the commi's are partial to a bit of Basketball, Ice Hockey and Baseball.

    All you Europeans with your useless arms are screwed. I'm good, I play Rugby too so my arms still work. :)

    He's pretty much trolling everyone . At least I hope he's trolling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭oconnon9


    He makes some valid points and is very articulate.

    What?? He makes some of the dumbest points i've ever heard.

    If he was any more inarticulate he'd be Cletus from the simpsons

    Praying for his sake he was taking the piss


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    There's nothing more socialist in sport than the American football draft system. The smaller clubs profiting and being helped by the strongest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    God is love!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Soccer can't be against God. Sure didn't Jesus get on the end of a cross in the bible.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭#15


    I haven't watched that video, but I have heard this theory before. It is amazing that some Americans link soccer with socialism.

    Soccer is far more capitalist than the major US sports.

    The US sports have more socialist elements than soccer:
    - Player unions and collective bargaining agreements
    - Draft system to ensure a fair distribution of talent
    - Minimum wages (in the NBA at least)
    - Restraints on freedom of movement and earnings for players (e.g. salary caps)

    I'm not making any judgements about the organisation of each sport (or ideology), but it's bizarre that soccer is portrayed as the socialist sport. It just doesn't make sense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭G.K.


    Lol guys it's a satirist....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,943 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    RasTa wrote: »
    God is love!

    love is noise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    What is love?

    Baby, don't hurt me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭#15


    G.K. wrote: »
    Lol guys it's a satirist....

    Perhaps he is (I haven't watched it), but soccer=socialism articles popped up on a few US websites and in papers last year, during the world cup.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    #15 wrote: »
    Perhaps he is (I haven't watched it), but soccer=socialism articles popped up on a few US websites and in papers last year, during the world cup.
    There are some very right wing people in the US that believe anything not "made in the USA" is communist and that socialism=Communism absolutely there is no middle ground they believe.


    Soccer Is a Socialist Sport

    By Marc Thiessen

    In the Washington Post this morning, sports columnist Sally Jenkins complains about the lack of popular outrage over America’s elimination in the World Cup: “Why is it that Americans expect to win in every sport we compete in except for soccer? How is it that a nation so obsessed with games seems abnormally lacking in ambition when it comes to the most popular one on the globe?” Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal reports that the National Soccer Hall of Fame in Oneonta, New York, is shutting its doors. According to the Journal, the place never had more than 17,000 visitors a year, and “the hall’s passing seems to have gone almost unnoticed. The local newspaper barely covered its demise.”

    The world is crazy for soccer, but most Americans don’t give a hoot about the sport. Why? Many years ago, my former White House colleague Bill McGurn pointed out to me the real reason soccer hasn’t caught on in the good old U.S.A. It’s simple, really: Soccer is a socialist sport.

    Think about it. Soccer is the only sport in the world where you cannot use the one tool that distinguishes man from beast: opposable thumbs. “No hands” is a rule only a European statist could love. (In fact, with the web of high taxes and regulations that tie the hands of European entrepreneurs, “no hands” kind of describes their economic theories as well.)

    Soccer is also the only sport in the world that has “hooligans”—proletarian mobs that trash private property whenever their team loses.

    Soccer is collectivist. At this year’s World Cup, the French national team actually went on strike in the middle of the tournament on the eve of an elimination match. (Yes, capitalist sports have experienced labor disputes, but can you imagine a Major League Baseball team going on strike in the middle of the World Series?)

    At the youth level, soccer teams don’t even keep score and everyone gets a participation trophy. Can you say, “From each according to his ability…”? (The fact that they do keep score later on is the only thing that prevents soccer from being a Communist sport.)

    Capitalist sports are exciting—people often hit each other, sometimes even score. Soccer fans are excited by an egalitarian 0-0 tie. When soccer powerhouses Brazil and Portugal met recently at the World Cup, they played for 90 minutes—and combined got just eight shots on net (and zero goals). Contrast this with the most exciting sports moment last week, which came not at the World Cup, but at Wimbledon, when American John Isner won in a fifth-set victory that went 70-68. Yes, even tennis is more exciting than soccer. Like an overcast day in East Berlin, soccer is … boring.

    And finally, have you seen the World Cup trophy? It looks like an Emmy Award (and everyone knows that Hollywood is socialist).

    There are many more reasons soccer and socialism go hand in hand. You can read some of them here. Perhaps in the age of President Obama, soccer will finally catch on in America. But I suspect that socializing Americans’ taste in sports may be a tougher task than socializing our healthcare system.
    Just highlighted what seems to be the main argument.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭bohsman


    #15 wrote: »
    Perhaps he is (I haven't watched it), but soccer=socialism articles popped up on a few US websites and in papers last year, during the world cup.

    Do they also argue that its because soccer satan and sodomy all begin with an s and that not being allowed use all the functions god gave you is anti god? Just watch the video already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    This is from the conservative encyclopedia
    Soccer and socialism

    The nature and rules of soccer very much resemble socialism in many ways:[3][4]
    • The "off-sides" rule prohibits using certain aggressive ("unfair") tactics in the game.
    • Soccer is very bureaucratic, and teams are very much tied to their countries.
    • The US is often treated unfairly by other nations in the game, one reason being soccer's lack of popularity in the US - socialism always claimed to favor the absolute will of the majority rather than personal and economic freedom of the individual.
    • The World Cup trophy resembles socialist Hollywood's Emmy Award.
    • In youth leagues, everyone gets a trophy for their efforts regardless of achievement, and there is no scoring in the game.
    • Even the World Cup encourages "achievement" by holding a third-place game for the two losers in the semifinals.
    • Union strikes, even during the playing season, are a major issue with soccer.
    • Riots caused by "hooligans" - fans of a team which lost a game - often include violent crimes, such as infringement on private property rights.
    • Participants are known to behave dishonestly and illegally and act against the interests of their team in order to gain financially themselves.[5]
    • Soccer coaches only need a vocabulary of about 100 words to coach their teams [6], which is reminiscent of socialist pandering to the lowest common denominator. At least twice as many conservative words alone originated in the 20th century.

    http://conservapedia.com/Soccer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭#15


    bohsman wrote: »
    Do they also argue that its because soccer satan and sodomy all begin with an s and that not being allowed use all the functions god gave you is anti god? Just watch the video already.

    I'm not watching it, it looks terrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    i cant believe he took 6 minutes off riding his sister to even bother recording a video


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,615 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Satirist (and I'm almost a little disappointed because a bit of me wanted it to be real).

    http://telling-secrets.blogspot.com/2010/09/billy-bob-neck.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    Barak Osama Homo bin Laden

    The lad is a legend^^^^. Hope nobody ever tell's him the Keeper can use his two arms, two hands, and two elbows...

    And he's right, Uruguay is an ugly name, and you do have to be weary of those Mexicans from Brazil, Mexico's from Porto Rico and all over..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,490 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    This is from the conservative encyclopedia


    http://conservapedia.com/Soccer

    Just reading that and one part made me laugh

    Riots caused by "hooligans" - fans of a team which lost a game - often include violent crimes, such as infringement on private property rights.

    I take it this person then ignores the Riots after Hockey games in Canada when a team loses (Vancouver) or wins (Montreal).

    Do they dismiss the riots in Boston when the Red Sox finally won a "World Series of Baseball" that consists of mostly American teams and 1 Canadian team.

    Or what about riots in LA when the Lakers won the NBA championship.

    ******



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    We can laugh at their stupidity and then remember Sepp Blatter is in charge of the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,736 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Just reading that and one part made me laugh

    Riots caused by "hooligans" - fans of a team which lost a game - often include violent crimes, such as infringement on private property rights.

    I take it this person then ignores the Riots after Hockey games in Canada when a team loses (Vancouver) or wins (Montreal).

    Do they dismiss the riots in Boston when the Red Sox finally won a "World Series of Baseball" that consists of mostly American teams and 1 Canadian team.

    Or what about riots in LA when the Lakers won the NBA championship.

    All of the above riots were covered by and condemned by all sorts of media in North America

    Oh and the 'World Series' is as much a historical term as anything else that is still in use.

    It is no more or no less valid a title as the 'Champions League'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    It is no more or no less valid a title as the 'Champions League'

    Can't argue with that statement.

    Champions League for champions only ;)


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