Car Sold - eflow Bill Arrives

Tadaa!

Hello,
Last week I sold my car to a guy from Dublin (I'm from Galway) and today I received a bill from eflow for non-payment of the toll. The date on the bill is the same day I sold the car. But the problem is he has the logbook which I left for him to send off which I realize now was a big mistake.

Is their anything I can do or should I just go and pay the bill??

andyseadog

Tadaa! wrote: »

Hello,
Last week I sold my car to a guy from Dublin (I'm from Galway) and today I received a bill from eflow for non-payment of the toll. The date on the bill is the same day I sold the car. But the problem is he has the logbook which I left for him to send off which I realize now was a big mistake.

Is their anything I can do or should I just go and pay the bill??

why on earth would you give him the logbook?

i'd just pay the fine given he has the logbook, 6 euros to get shut of that hassle before it snowballs.

then i'd head straight to a good mass and say a lot of prayers in the hoping that he changes the logbook and that the eflow fine is the worst that will come from all this.

Mycroft H

Go to your local comissioner of oaths and get an affidavit declaring that your no longer the owner of the vehicle from the date of sale and send it straight to shannon, registered post. Your still the registered owner, do not rely on someone else to change the ownership. If worst comes to worst traffic offenses could drop through the letterbox.


I would not pay someone elses fines!

puppetmaster

Gave him the log book, Ouch.

Pay the fine, Phone the guy you bought the car off, or Call the Vehicle registration guys in Shannon to see can you make some record with them that you sold the car with the logbook. (thats a long shot). Do you have his name and adress etc?

But legally the cars yours so they'll probably say its your responsability. You could ring eflow. Id say they have had plenty of "i sold my car that day" calls before though.

listermint

Its six Euro, christ just pay it. Chalk it down to experience.

Forget all this commissioner of oaths stuff. Oh and you shouldnt have given him the log book. Thats a silly mistake, there are enough threads here of similar. Consult others before buying / selling a car.

Tadaa!

Thanks for the quick replies.
Lesson learned, don't you worry. It was my first time selling hence the big mistake but I wont ever let that happen again.

landyman wrote: »

Go to your local comissioner of oaths and get an affidavit declaring that your no longer the owner of the vehicle from the date of sale and send it straight to shannon, registered post. Your still the registered owner, do not rely on someone else to change the ownership. If worst comes to worst traffic offenses could drop through the letterbox.


I would not pay someone elses fines!

Thanks, will look right into it.

Will just pay the fine anyway and visit local commissioner of oaths to get that declaration sorted.

Moanin

Same thing happened to me and I went to the local Guards and got the form signed and sent to Shannon. never heard a thing since

Paulyh

This happened to me, just ring eflow and explain that you sold the car and the owner ship has not been change over yet and tell them the date the car was sold. They will send you a letter stating that the fine has been cancelled (a few weeks later). No need to do anything else.

tuxy

Is there warnings on the log book explaining why you should only post it any and never hand it over?
It may seem like a stupid mistake to people who have sold many cars but when it's your first one it's a very easy one to make.

garysully1986

Report the car stolen!!!! lol

:D:D

HarryPotter41

tuxy wrote: »

Is there warnings on the log book explaining why you should only post it any and never hand it over?
It may seem like a stupid mistake to people who have sold many cars but when it's your first one it's a very easy one to make.

Not totally sure but think it says somewhere that the owner is the person responsible for sending off the completed change of ownership to the NVDF

Riprod

Hi,

Had that experience. Most garage owners in Dublin will ask you whether you intend to use the M50 on the way home when you have just bought a car. They know the toll bill may go to them or the old owner who will scream the odds at them. Call eFlow, they hold the bill at the current level for a while, and get in touch with the new owner or the bods in shannon that register vehicles. They can change the ownership and then let eflow know. New guy then gets the bill.

Never hand over the logbook. Tolls are are bad enuff, but speeding, parking, accidents or hit and run and the Garda knock on your door.

dell1211

listermint wrote: »

Forget all this commissioner of oaths stuff.

I think that was pretty good advice actually.

Major Deadline

I've just received my second fine in a month for the M50 - for a car I traded in with a Dublin-based dealer in the middle of June. I rang Eflow the first time and they took details and said they'd pursue it with the dealer. I have all my documentation for the trade-in, and I wasn't even in the country on the date of the first fine.
Dealer assured me that all the logbook stuff is done online now and that I didn't need to sign the book when I handed it over. I got the logbook for my new car within two days - so he obviously did the registration for that straight away.
I suspect the dealer hasn't sold my old car and that someone in the garage is using it as a run-around. He doesn't want to register it because that adds up to an extra owner, which makes it harder to sell.
Very annoyed but going to ring him and Eflow tomorrow. Have no idea why Eflow didn't flag the car reg as an issue the last time I rang.
I think handing over the log book is an easy mistake though. It's not something most people do every day. I wouldn't pay the fine though - provided you've enough info on the person you sold the car to to pass it on to the guards.

n97 mini

Tadaa! wrote: »

Will just pay the fine anyway and visit local commissioner of oaths to get that declaration sorted.

Use the form from Shannon, or write the letter yourself. Then there is a standard fee of just €10 for witnessing your oath.

Don't get a solicitor to write you a letter, there is no need.

shannon_tek

Happened to us just with out the logbook but eflow were understanding and nothing more came about it. We sold a van and that evening the new owner dublin resident used a toll and we got the bill but we told them eflow the vehicle was no longer in our hands and they said no more. so .... Should ring them and see where you stand

Magic Beans

Wouldn't it be a very simple idea to put the date and time of sale, not just the date, on any sale related documents? Problem solved.

Our man in Havana

Being the registered owner does not mean you actually own the car. All it is a name for the law to go after for offences. The second the chap pays you for the car, ownership passes to him.

Just to reiterate the advice given earlier, never ever give the buyer the log book.

Darsad

Give the owner one chance to pay up and send off the log book / licencing cert . If that fails fill in a form RF134 lost document Costs 12€ get it stamped in the Garda station and when you get the new cert fill in new owners details and send off to Shannon.

morgo_murray

Just ring eflow and tell them, they freeze the journeys for you and wait till the log book is updated. You should contact the VRU though