Charging players to play matches?

sendit

Iv heard this is happening alot lately, for some reason it seems to happen in Kildare alot, it also happens in america were players have to pay i think $10.
If was ever asked to pay going into a game i was playing in, I would refuse to even play and would consider leaving the GAA.

GoldFour4

I just roll down the window when I'm going through the gate. Slow down to a crawl and give the gate man a “how are ya ? ”

ILikeBananas

Happens all the time in soccer matches

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sendit wrote: »

Iv heard this is happening alot lately, for some reason it seems to happen in Kildare alot, it also happens in america were players have to pay i think $10.
If was ever asked to pay going into a game i was playing in, I would refuse to even play and would consider leaving the GAA.

when i played in Ruislip back in the 90s,we had to pay,i think it was 2 quid.

sendit

ILikeBananas wrote: »

Happens all the time in soccer matches

Thats to pay for the ref though

Clareman

I've never paid to play a GAA match, but I don't think I have a problem with it, I play Astro Turf soccer twice a week and pay a fiver a game. Saying that, if spectators were paying to get in I don't think players should pay

yabadabado

Clareman wrote: »

I've never paid to play a GAA match, but I don't think I have a problem with it, I play Astro Turf soccer twice a week and pay a fiver a game. Saying that, if spectators were paying to get in I don't think players should pay

with the Astro you are playing for the use of the facilities and Im guessing just playing with a couple of mates.
No way should the players be asked to pay into a competitive game were there will be spectators paying in.

Clareman

I guess your club sub should cover the costs of all competitive games

UpTheSlashers

Maybe the lads at the gate dont realise your playing.

df1985

one certain club in kildare started it, didnt go down well, then it became tit for tat. "if them fcukers charge us we'll charge them too" kind of thing. Everyone carpools now!

ixus

Naas started it if I remember correctly, going back 15 years I'd say. Now everyone charges in Kildare forany level of adult game. It has become an accepted practice. So much so, that most players think it's the norm in Kildare.

So, you could be playing a match for the second team, sub for the first and play a hurling match in the week. Really can add up on a monthly basis.

Disgusts me.

sendit

Another point on this, have you ever noticed how its always the same guys at the gate at matchs you give the money to? Make what you want from that....

johnmcdnl

sendit wrote: »

Another point on this, have you ever noticed how its always the same guys at the gate at matchs you give the money to? Make what you want from that....

it's often the same lad that does the scoreboard as well :rolleyes:

and the same lad that collects the balls after the game too... and the same lad that directs trafffic... and the same lad that writes the report for the local newspaper too...

club needs someone to come an hour before a game to get the tickets.. what do you want... different people each week???


I don't see the problem.... I suppose you think they might be stealing money or something is it?? well how is putting a new person on the job every week gonan stop that.... I'd have though picking 2 really trustworthy people would be better than trying to find new people every weekend...

PARKHEAD67

sendit wrote: »

Iv heard this is happening alot lately, for some reason it seems to happen in Kildare alot, it also happens in america were players have to pay i think $10.
If was ever asked to pay going into a game i was playing in, I would refuse to even play and would consider leaving the GAA.

Gombeenism.That is all.I would hop into my car and drive home if I was ever charged to PLAY an amateur sport.In all my days of playing I can never think of anything as remotely stupid as this happening.Is this a WUM?

jive

What the fúck? I've never heard of that. Considering you pay membership to the club you think they'd foot the bill (if any?). I've seen men on the gates charging €5-€10 in but only for spectators which is fair enough.

Fr Tod Umptious

sendit wrote: »

Iv heard this is happening alot lately, for some reason it seems to happen in Kildare alot, it also happens in america were players have to pay i think $10.
If was ever asked to pay going into a game i was playing in, I would refuse to even play and would consider leaving the GAA.

In the states players pay the entrance fee like all other attending the games.

I though it was daft when I first heard about it but when you look at it it makes sense.

In American cities you have one place where all games are played, usually on a Sunday but also sometimes on a Saturday evening.

You do not have individual club grounds as in Ireland.

Games usually start at 12 and go on till 6 or 7. In that time you will have football, hurling, ladies football, and at all levels, junior, inter and senior.

So many of the actual crowd are players also, therefore you would be loosing a lot of game money if players were not charged in like everyone else.

hardybuck

In America players at the gate will pay into places like the Irish Cultural Centre in Boston. While the cost certainly adds up, people realise that it is needed to keep an operation like that funded which is vital to the Irish community out there.

I can't believe people get away with it in Ireland though! Is it even in the rules?

I dont know

I rarely pay into games I’m playing in – but I have on occasion thrown a few pound into the box on the way in the gate. I know lads on my team that always do it at home games and often at away games, but you’re not expected to.
It costs an absolute fortune to run a GAA club now. Our affiliation fees last year alone were around £17,000 I think, before we’d even kicked a ball.
Growing up, everything was free for us in our club(and still is for U18s), but once you’re playing adult football you’ve got to realise that you need to contribute to the running of the club.

Two training sessions & 1 competitive game a week is surely worth a fiver? Not to mention all the craic and enjoyment being part of your club has given you over the years!

Maybe asking for players to give money at the gate is the wrong time to do so, but if you’re playing adult football/hurling you need to be paying your way. Direct debit is the handiest way to get people to pay their way

longpuck

I dont know wrote: »

I rarely pay into games I’m playing in – but I have on occasion thrown a few pound into the box on the way in the gate. I know lads on my team that always do it at home games and often at away games, but you’re not expected to.
It costs an absolute fortune to run a GAA club now. Our affiliation fees last year alone were around £17,000 I think, before we’d even kicked a ball.
Growing up, everything was free for us in our club(and still is for U18s), but once you’re playing adult football you’ve got to realise that you need to contribute to the running of the club.

Two training sessions & 1 competitive game a week is surely worth a fiver? Not to mention all the craic and enjoyment being part of your club has given you over the years!

Maybe asking for players to give money at the gate is the wrong time to do so, but if you’re playing adult football/hurling you need to be paying your way. Direct debit is the handiest way to get people to pay their way

As it is players already pay membership to the club and im sure most will do lottos etc. Also the club would also get part of the money fans pay at the gate so i dont see why they should also chrage players

I dont know

What’s your annual membership? Ours is only £30, with the average player spending maybe £2 on lotto a week, if even.

I agree that asking players to pay into games they’re playing in isn’t on, but maybe the committee aren’t having much success in getting them to contribute the required amount other ways? They simply wouldn’t be charging people needlessly if there wasn’t a need for the money

I find at our fundraisers, its always the same guys that turn up to support them, and the same lads who avoid them and never have any change on them when asked to buy a lotto after training. Maybe these clubs have found the same and decided this was the only way to get lads who play to pay their way.

As someone has already mentioned, you wouldn't expect to go to the gym or play 5-a-side for free

sendit

I dont know wrote: »

What’s your annual membership? Ours is only £30, with the average player spending maybe £2 on lotto a week, if even.

I agree that asking players to pay into games they’re playing in isn’t on, but maybe the committee aren’t having much success in getting them to contribute the required amount other ways? They simply wouldn’t be charging people needlessly if there wasn’t a need for the money

I find at our fundraisers, its always the same guys that turn up to support them, and the same lads who avoid them and never have any change on them when asked to buy a lotto after training. Maybe these clubs have found the same and decided this was the only way to get lads who play to pay their way.

As someone has already mentioned, you wouldn't expect to go to the gym or play 5-a-side for free

Some club have a very high membership rate can be 60/70 euro a year. Even if a lotto only costs €2 year a week still adds up at the end of the year.

I dont think players should have to pay in when fans are already paying in.

Ya but a gym or 5 a side is different your paying for the pitch or the gym as there a business a GAA club isn't a business

DoctaDee

We only charge into Senior Champ matches ... but the "fundraising" is never ending. Cul Camps start this week - I've 3 in there with no discount for additional kids. My understanding is the county board set a standard price for the camp, then the clubs massage that figure to their own devices - stealth fundraising ... and to speak up in opposition draws the rolling eyes and watery excuses from da committee

sendit

DoctaDee wrote: »

We only charge into Senior Champ matches ... but the "fundraising" is never ending. Cul Camps start this week - I've 3 in there with no discount for additional kids. My understanding is the county board set a standard price for the camp, then the clubs massage that figure to their own devices - stealth fundraising ... and to speak up in opposition draws the rolling eyes and watery excuses from da committee

Iv noticed that aswell with fundraising, you never seem to see the money being up to any use yet there always looking for more. For example our clubs seinor team have had the same set of jerseys since around 2006 and have got to county finals etc in that space of time.

hardybuck

sendit wrote: »

Some club have a very high membership rate can be 60/70 euro a year.

€150 in my case! No access to facilities other than pitch, dressing rooms, and play in the region of 9-12 games per season. Not good value at all. When you factor in that a lot of lads live away from home now and travel back for training and matches, the expense really starts to become an issue.

DoctaDee

sendit wrote: »

Iv noticed that aswell with fundraising, you never seem to see the money being up to any use yet there always looking for more. For example our clubs seinor team have had the same set of jerseys since around 2006 and have got to county finals etc in that space of time.

Seen it myself only recently ... this clubs senior team .. once senior now inter fielded 15 in a hotch potch of jerseys and the replacements wore the jersey of the man coming off !

sendit

DoctaDee wrote: »

Seen it myself only recently ... this clubs senior team .. once senior now inter fielded 15 in a hotch potch of jerseys and the replacements wore the jersey of the man coming off !

You'd have to wonder what the money is being spent on? I could see where it would go if a club had a bar, clubhouse etc but your club has none of that

nikkibikki

No way should players be expected to pay going to play a match, especially when there is only one match on!! In my hubby's club, he has to pay a higher membership fee than me coz he's a player, think it's to cover insurance which is fair enough I suppose. But the way I see it is, the players are effectively providing the entertainment so shouldn't be charged. I can see why they do it in the States and London when there is 4 or 5 games on or whatever as basically all the crowd will be participating in some game or other during the day, but I've played camogie in Sydney and hubby hurling and we played every Sunday, only thing we paid for was transport and food.

DoctaDee

sendit wrote: »

You'd have to wonder what the money is being spent on? I could see where it would go if a club had a bar, clubhouse etc but your club has none of that

I'm not an O'D man ... but your observations are quite accurate