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How to qualify as a teacher with a degree from abroad

  • 18-07-2011 9:13pm
    #1
    99Luftballons
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 ✭


    Hi all,

    I have some questions and was wondering if anyone out there can help me or made som experiences becoming teacher with a foreign degree?
    I have a M.A. in Sociology and Economics from a EU country and was thinking of doing the one year course for teaching.
    But it seems I have to go thorugh a lot of paper war before.
    1. Do I have to register with the teaching council?
    2. What do they need? Course books, etc.all translated??
    3. Who does 1 year courses for teaching? Fees? Are there entry exams?
    4. Is it easy enough to get a space as a non Irish national?
    5. Is realistic to get a permanent position once qualified as a non Irish national? Or is subbing the only reality due to cuts etc?

    So far it seems that the procedure to become a teacher is complicated anyways but with a foreign qualification one first have to prove to actually have a qualification before being able to register.

    Thanks for all your help!


Comments

  • #2
    delta_bravo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    What was your undergraduate degree in? Your masters won't qualify you to teach.


  • #3
    gaeilgebeo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭gaeilgebeo


    99Luftballons wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I have some questions and was wondering if anyone out there can help me or made som experiences becoming teacher with a foreign degree?
    I have a M.A. in Sociology and Economics from a EU country and was thinking of doing the one year course for teaching.
    But it seems I have to go thorugh a lot of paper war before.
    1. Do I have to register with the teaching council?
    2. What do they need? Course books, etc.all translated??
    3. Who does 1 year courses for teaching? Fees? Are there entry exams?
    4. Is it easy enough to get a space as a non Irish national?
    5. Is realistic to get a permanent position once qualified as a non Irish national? Or is subbing the only reality due to cuts etc?

    So far it seems that the procedure to become a teacher is complicated anyways but with a foreign qualification one first have to prove to actually have a qualification before being able to register.

    Thanks for all your help!

    Well first of all are you sure teaching in second level is what you want to do? You don't seem to have researched it much from your refernce to a "one year teaching course".
    You will need to check if your undergraduate degree is recognised by the Teaching Council.
    What do you hope to teach?
    By the looks of things, you may be only able to teach Economics.
    Economics is not offered in every school.
    Not having a second subject will also go against you.
    It is very difficult to get onto the PGDE course. There are so many people applying for it and the criteria has changed.
    As for you getting a permanent job, no, it is not realistic, you really need to read up on the situation in Ireland at the minute! :confused:


  • #4
    whiteandlight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭whiteandlight


    1. Do I have to register with the teaching council?
    Yes. You will need to make sure that your degree is recognised by them before you can get onto a teacher training course. You may need to pay for them to assess your course.

    2. What do they need? Course books, etc.all translated??
    See point one. Contact the TC for more information. see http://www.teachingcouncil.ie/

    3. Who does 1 year courses for teaching? Fees? Are there entry exams?
    You are talking about the PGDE Post Graduate Diploma in Education. It is offered at various colleges across the country. You can check out
    http://www.pac.ie/main.php?inst=pe for information. Though bear in mind that it is not the only application process, e.g. Trinity College has their own. It cost me circa €6000 in fees. Not sure what it is this year.
    There are no entrance exams for the Pac system, but your degree must be recognised (see points 1 and 2). There is an interview for trinity I think.

    4. Is it easy enough to get a space as a non Irish national?
    It all depends on a) getting your degree recognised b) how many points you have on the pac scale. AFAIK being a non national wont make a huge amount of difference.

    5. Is realistic to get a permanent position once qualified as a non Irish national? Or is subbing the only reality due to cuts etc?

    There are few to none permanent positions in teaching at second level. I qualified three years ago and I applied for 12 positions this summer (only one permanent) and only got a call to interview for one of them. I have an excellent CV (1:1 degree, 1:1 PGDE and experience as a local facilitator in my subject). I am not saying this to boast, just to emphasise just how difficult it is out there. I believe according to the ASTI (Union) that it takes an average of at least seven years to get permanency and this was before the latest round of cuts.


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