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Shooting and editing for Broadcast

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  • 16-07-2011 11:52pm
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    stephenhall
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    Hi,
    Im going to be shooting a short piece to be submitted to RTE as a pilot for a new show.
    Im going to be shooting it on a number of camcorders and DSLR's. I was wondering if anyone could help me with what settings would be best on the cameras and then what out-put settings would be best
    BTW the piece is a factual piece
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    ScumLord
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    Well I'm assuming your using HD cameras which will make your stuff much higher quality than RTE can broadcast so you've plenty of scope there. I'm sure if you save it as mpeg2 they should have no problems reading it. Really you should contact RTE as they'll be able to give you those details without any problems. They'll hardly think you should know these things off the top of your head.


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    Miguel_Sanchez
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    If you're submitting a pilot for consideration it probably won't need to be broadcast quality although having said that you should make it broadcastable just in case.

    RTE normally look for a digibeta tape for deliverables but they have started to ask for people to deliver on HD too these days as on Saorview they will be broadcasting in HD soon (if that hasn't already started). I think they take HD on HDcam tapes as opposed to HD Quicktime files.

    However talk to the person you will be submitting the pilot to. It really depends on whether you've been commissioned already or not. If it's just a case of you showing them what the programme will be like before getting funding to go out and shoot it properly then they'll probably be happy to watch it on DVD.

    Send me a PM if you have any more questions, I regularly submit masters tapes etc. to RTE.


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    briano.de.rhino
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    I hope to get a Panasonic af101 soon. Should I shoot in 1080 everytime or is it valid to use 720 ever?

    Also, if I hoped to get stuff broadcast one day, why would rte or anybody not accept an avi or mpeg2 or similar high quality format?

    Also, I heard somewhere about acceptable colour grades for broadcast, what is this about?

    Thanks, for the advice,

    B


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    Miguel_Sanchez
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    briano.de.rhino wrote: »
    I hope to get a Panasonic af101 soon. Should I shoot in 1080 everytime or is it valid to use 720 ever?

    These days you're as well off future proofing yourself and shooting everything in HD. Although you can up-res stuff fairly well in an online suite if you have to, provided it was shot on a good format to begin with.
    Also, if I hoped to get stuff broadcast one day, why would rte or anybody not accept an avi or mpeg2 or similar high quality format?

    BBC accept Quicktime files. Their delivery standards are extremely finickity. Programs regularly get rejected by them and sent back. RTE only accept HD on HDcam tapes as far as I'm aware. This will probably change in the future but not at the moment. It's annoying as it adds an extra expense to delivery requirements.
    Also, I heard somewhere about acceptable colour grades for broadcast, what is this about?

    It's the level of colour or luminence that is acceptable to broadcast. You can get filters that will ensure everything is within the correct levels.

    I'm not an online editor so am a bit sketchy on the above but that's pretty much what it is.


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    NealB
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    Shoot at the best quality you can afford. You can deliver a DVD to RTE for viewing. If they want to broadcast it you have to deliver on Digi Beta, which means an online edit and proper audio mix etc. The technical area is specialised and not be stumbled into, use a professional. The online editor will make sure the footage is within the broadcast legal parameters, basically white levels not peeking over 100% and no black crushing, gamma within safe levels etc. Some broadcasters have different levels for white like max of 95%, you have to check their tech requirements before delivering the master tape. As I said the online editor should know. If you pockets are deep you can also do a colour grade to give the footage a polish.


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    Lump
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    BBC only accept HD programme delivery on HDCam SR, there was a phase when stock wasn't available would wide during which they accepted delivery on HDCam. Programme acquisition accept delivery of HD Quicktimes for compliance editing, these are then played out to tape for delivery & Tech Review. They are working towards a tapeless workflow.

    AVI and Mpeg are nasty, so I would suggest delivering a Quicktime of some type.


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    NealB
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    Lump, I haven't dealt with file based delivery. When you say the BBC accept HD QuickTime’s for compliance editing does that mean that you can deliver the QT file and then the BBC make their broadcast master tapes/dupes etc themselves? Or do they broadcast directly from the QTs? What do people deliver the QTs on; they're going to be big files so surly tape is cheaper then a drive. Although when you factor in deck hire the numbers quickly add up. N


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    Miguel_Sanchez
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    NealB wrote: »
    Lump, I haven't dealt with file based delivery. When you say the BBC accept HD QuickTime’s for compliance editing does that mean that you can deliver the QT file and then the BBC make their broadcast master tapes/dupes etc themselves? Or do they broadcast directly from the QTs? What do people deliver the QTs on; they're going to be big files so surly tape is cheaper then a drive. Although when you factor in deck hire the numbers quickly add up. N

    BBC NI accept QT file delivery on drive. I'm not sure what they do with them afterwards bu I know they're very fastidious about the exact manner the file is created.


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    NealB
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    Jeff_Lebowski wrote: »
    BBC NI accept QT file delivery on drive. I'm not sure what they do with them afterwards bu I know they're very fastidious about the exact manner the file is created.

    I'm curious to know what drives people are delivering on. Surly a cost effect drive as opposed to G-Raid etc. drives?

    I imagine that they accept the fully uncompressed file ingested from a pro capture card setup, Blackmagic / Aja etc.


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    Lump
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    NealB wrote: »
    Lump, I haven't dealt with file based delivery. When you say the BBC accept HD QuickTime’s for compliance editing does that mean that you can deliver the QT file and then the BBC make their broadcast master tapes/dupes etc themselves? Or do they broadcast directly from the QTs? What do people deliver the QTs on; they're going to be big files so surly tape is cheaper then a drive. Although when you factor in deck hire the numbers quickly add up. N

    We get delivery of files from the film distributors, it's all downloaded via Soho Net, which is a fat pipe direct to america. The files are about 250 - 500 gigs in size.

    John


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