4x4 tyres

amacca

Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions on where is the best place to get myself a set of off road/off road looking tyres for mitsubishi pajero at reasonable rates

heard you can get 40/60 offroad/road use tyres etc

like the look of those cooper tyres with visible writing on the tyre wall.

Fishtits

BF Goodrige AT's are a good all rounder, they are available for the Pajero (odd ball) in American size 15 inch x 30 something inch etc

The white writing is on one side only so you can decide whether you want to display etc.

Cheers.

brembo26

camskill.co.uk is going to be your best friend on this one. Cant beat the BF Goodrich tyres, you will never go back after putting these on.

amacca

ta lads

got lucky and got myself a set of bf goodrich ats locally ...265/70 16s a couple of days ago...some lad ordered them and didnt want to pay for them so they were sitting for a while.

fitted, balanced and tracking (it needs this.....left front wears noticeably more than right front even taking into account its beside the ditch/rough stuff all the time) €650 for everything + a couple of punctures repaired.



now...anyone know where I might go about getting polyuretane bushings for the track rod ends......want to replace the rubber ones / do the suspension etc at some stage in the future and get the steering crisper.

101sean

Try Milners in the UK.

Fishtits

"left front wears noticeably more than right front"

Sorry, but that's not a tracking problrm, you've got ball joint/bushing problems on that side. Tracking errors result in even(ish) wear on both sides.

"polyuretane bushings for the track rod ends"

Track rod ends are ball joints, poly whatever bushes are for something else.

OP, find yourself a mechanic that you trust, and hand over your maintenence to them, it seems that you are out of your depth and are at risk of being stuffed IMHO.

newmug

Fishtits wrote: »

OP, find yourself a mechanic that you trust, and hand over your maintenence to them, it seems that you are out of your depth and are at risk of being stuffed IMHO.

VERY hard thing to do. I try different lads in my locality whenever I've a problem, just to shop around and suss them all out. One fella in particular was recommended to me last week. I left me trooper with him that morning and had it back that evening. To change one bushing, weld the exaust and replace a leaking hose he wanted E400! I nearly dropped (him!). I put it to him that he wanted a weeks wages for a days work.

We settled on E350, still a total rip-off IMO. There's some cowboys out there.

amacca

Fishtits wrote: »

"left front wears noticeably more than right front"

Sorry, but that's not a tracking problrm, you've got ball joint/bushing problems on that side. Tracking errors result in even(ish) wear on both sides.

"polyuretane bushings for the track rod ends"

Track rod ends are ball joints, poly whatever bushes are for something else.

apologies...was under the impression the ball joint has a rubber bushing that sits underneath it or is attached to the joint section somewhere and when this perishes it can be one of the reasons you can get steering vagueness

was also under the impression replacing the perished rubber one with longer life stiffer polyurethane ones (either just the rubber or the whole assembly containing a polyurethane one) makes the steering more precise? ....as the polyurethane is stiffer (while not being totally rigid) and has a longer life?

Fishtits wrote: »

OP, find yourself a mechanic that you trust, and hand over your maintenence to them, it seems that you are out of your depth and are at risk of being stuffed IMHO.

as post subsequent to yours suggests, this is easier said than done to my mind

want to do my own maintenance/upgrades - not because I mind handing over the cash if the job is done properly for a fair rate but because

1) I'm not sure the garages are actually doing half of what they say they are.

2) want to see just how difficult the tasks they have been quoting me for actually are so if I do get a job done I have some knowledge of what they are doing and can better assess if its a fair price + if they have actually done it

3) would like to know how to do these things simply because I'm interested and can feel confident what I wanted done is actually done



you are correct though, I am out of my depth (totally ignorant at this stage) .....however anything I've ever done I have begun out of my depth and got better (much better)....your response in itself has helped me gain a bit of insight I didnt have before.

Its nothing research, haynes manual etc, asking questio, making mistakes and persistence wont overcome.

+ if I keep just handing it over and taking mechanics word for it I will never be any the wiser.

101sean

Track rod ends (balljoints) wear and will give steering play (and fail DOE), cure is replacement of the joint. You can get pullers to extract them, they have a taper shank that fits in the steering arm or whatever they are mounted in. Most experienced mechanics use a couple of hammers to shock them out though. The threaded end in the track rod is often corroded in and can take some persuasion to come out, often one side is LH thread.

The bushes that can be replaced are in the various suspension mounts and if worn in the front can also cause vague steering. There's two schools of thought with bushes, either stick to original rubber/metalastic(which I do) or go for polyurethane which are easier to install and come in different hardness grades. Some apparently don't last long but expensive Super-pro bushes are good.

I don't know about Pajero, but on Land Rover changing bushes often means getting brutal with grinder and gas axe to get the old ones out and a press to get the new ones in :rolleyes:

Get hold of a Haynes comic if you can (nowhere near as good as they used to be) but there's better american manuals or you may be able to download a official workshop manual if you search. There's a Pajero/Shogun forum out there somewhere as well.

Good luck with finding a mechanic you can trust, us Land Rover owners can usually find someone to show how it's done, you may get lucky and find a like minded Pajero mechanic.

broro22

Jaysus to read this thread you'd think Mechanics were somewhere on the ladder just below bankers, politicians and paedophile priests. no maintenance is better than bad maintenance. If you dont know the difference between a bushe and a ball joint you shouldnt go on the internet slaggin off people who do. :mad:

Mechanics do have to learn their trade and entitled to make living from it

When amateurs start fcuking around with brakes and steering they are taking their own lives those of their passengers and every one else that they meet on the road into their hands.

amacca

broro22 wrote: »

Jaysus to read this thread you'd think Mechanics were somewhere on the ladder just below bankers, politicians and paedophile priests. no maintenance is better than bad maintenance. If you dont know the difference between a bushe and a ball joint you shouldnt go on the internet slaggin off people who do. :mad:

relax! the dust boots on the suspension mounts do contribute to play in the steering and there are polyurethane replacements for these ....you can also get a polyurethane replacement for the dust boots on the ball joints.....my bad I called them bushes. Below is an example of just one company making the type of products I was describing (albeit badly having said that I'd probably still call them bushes)

http://www.performancesuspension.com/tierodboots.html

+ hardly slagging off all mechanics ffs although I have had bad experiences with many of the ones I have used

broro22 wrote: »

Mechanics do have to learn their trade and entitled to make living from it

if you could be sure thats all the ones I have dealt with were doing that would be fine however I get the feeling a lot of their trade (at least the ones I have dealt with) is figuring out how much they can get away with overcharging you + making up faults that are more expensive and therefore more lucrative for them to remedy

my experience of most "services" has been that if you are ignorant of whats being done you will be taken for a ride because those that know whats involved will bargain for the best price (cut the profit to the bare minimum) and leave those that dont know to be overcharged

I intend not to be the one that doesn't know whats involved...I'd rather be informed than ignorant....theres only one way to achieve that in my opinion and that's try to do it yourself + I have a right to learn if I want + I'd have the same attitude and approach to any trade/craft/profession

they do whats best for them..I try to do what I think is best for me

broro22 wrote: »

When amateurs start fcuking around with brakes and steering they are taking their own lives those of their passengers and every one else that they meet on the road into their hands.

you have a point - however perhaps I should have made it clear

1) I'm not a complete amateur.........I carry out all my own maintenance etc on a number of motorcycles I own (granted...not the same thing at all but its not as if Im a complete amatuer that doesn't know how to use a torque wrench etc)

2) while I may not give exact pinpoint descriptions of what I intend to do etc....doesnt mean I wont be exact when I actually go to do the job.....didn't expect someone to get all riled up over a casual post asking a casual question.

3) I have other means of transport......setting the jeep up for mostly light off road use on my land for towing/moving stuff and a bit of enjoyment just to see what offroading is like......it will be seeing v.little road use + its going to be DOE'd after I make the changes......presumably if all mechanics are so wonderful and I'm such an amateur, they wont pass it eh so you wont have anything to worry about?...ill let you know how I get on:)