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What's the biggest of the majors?

  • 16-07-2011 3:46pm
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    If this has been done to death on the forum before, please just point me in the direction of the thread and accept my apologies.

    What with the British Open being on at the moment, I'm wondering if people have any views about which of the four major events (if any) would be regarded as the biggest, most worth winning, most prestigious or whatever?

    I know quite a few people in Scotland, who are all of the view that "The Open" is the biggest - to the extent that they get quite irritated when I refer to it as "The British Open". I don't agree with them, and I reckon that they feel the way they do because of the local factor.

    Anyway, I was wondering what opinions regulars here have about the subject.

    Cheers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 751 ✭✭✭BiffoGooner


    I'd say the Open and the Masters are pretty much on Par, followed by the US Open. A lot of players say they'd take the Open if they had a choice, so that says a lot I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭Opics


    T1 Masters/Open
    3rd US Open
    4th PGA

    That's how I view them. In America you would swap US Open and Open. I also believe that the US Open is the hardest to win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    The top 3 are all debatable but the PGA is nealry unanimously at the bottom.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Sandwlch


    USPGA easily the biggest :


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    A lot of players say they'd take the Open if they had a choice, so that says a lot I suppose.

    I used to think that as well, until it occurred to me that every time I heard that it was in response to a question asked on BBC or Sky, usually just before, during, or just after the tournament. So I figured the players would hardly give any other answer.

    I've always rated the Masters top of the list, followed by the U.S. Open, then the British Open, and the USPGA at the bottom. I suspect if you asked an American the British Open would be bottom of the list.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭dvemail


    The Masters and the British Open would be at the top of my list followed by the U.S Open
    then the PGA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,114 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Sandwlch wrote: »
    USPGA easily the biggest :

    Good one!! A bit like someone who is lacking in one area and trying to make up for it in another


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    Masters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    What's the biggest of the majors?

    Obviously its The Open.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,729 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    1. The Open
    2. U.S Open
    3. U.S Masters
    4. U.S.P.G.A


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Its the Open ,but I guess personal tastes also count, the Open is played on links in a British climate and that's a varied challenge, the US Open is famous for its tight, testing set ups while the Masters presents the players with an annual "fixed" conundrum. Only the US PGA lacks a certain something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    Wimbledon:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭kerosene


    mike65 wrote: »
    Its the Open ,but I guess personal tastes also count, the Open is played on links in a British climate and that's a varied challenge, the US Open is famous for its tight, testing set ups while the Masters presents the players with an annual "fixed" conundrum. Only the US PGA lacks a certain something.
    Id have to agree with you there mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    kerosene wrote: »
    Id have to agree with you there mike.
    Its definately the Open. Unpredictable,wind,rain, sun.Everything in a day.A lot of luck, but a lot of balls and skill to win one:D.To win on a Links course is special.Its the Wimbledon of golf.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭syngindub


    PARKHEAD67 wrote: »
    Its the Wimbledon of golf.
    like how they stop play when it rains ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭heavyballs


    PARKHEAD67 wrote: »
    Its definately the Open. Unpredictable,wind,rain, sun.Everything in a day.A lot of luck, but a lot of balls and skill to win one:D.To win on a Links course is special.Its the Wimbledon of golf.

    no i think it's the masters,you mentioned above about luck,well that's why i reckon it's the Masters over the open,the best player all round will win more often than not at augusta.........think about it....any chance of Hamilton,Daly or Curtis winning the masters?.......me thinks not.......because of the weather plenty have won by posting a good score and waiting for the others to falter
    at the Masters isn't it mainly the final or secong last group % wise will win which tells me it's a tougher one to win.Yes the heritage of the open is huge but for me links golf although it's the purest form doesn't always reward good golf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭Golfgraffix


    Obviously it will always be a very subjective answer as each means something else to each of us but here are my thoughts.

    The Masters: by far my favourite course, as a big Alister MacKenzie fan I just love the layout and strategy and there is something almost mystical about how the course is presented in the most perfect condition year after year. Being the first of the year there is always a great sense of anticipation to it. Number 2 on my list of favourites.

    The US Open: after the exclusivity of The Masters it is a pleasure to see a Major regularly played on quality public courses. Imagine Elmgreen hosting the Irish Open !!!!!! For some reason when the likes of Pebble host it it has not got the same feeling of a true open event. I also love the battle between the players to shoot low and the USGA to preserve par as the winning score. Number 3 on my list.

    The Open: shot making, for me that is what sets this one above the rest. To watch the worlds best have to think, plot and often bash their way around some of the worlds best links courses is a real treat. Of course nostalgia plays a huge role for me, as soon as I hear that opening music on BBC I am taken back to long summer final Sundays with my Dad trying to explain par to me. Number 1 major all the way.

    The PGA: Always a misnomer for me, with it's qualification criteria it always has the strongest field and so should be the most competitive of all 4 but often lacks that little spark. Maybe by the time it comes around I am a little golfer out. Number 4 on the list for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭ThunderCat


    For me, The Open is the pinnacle. It's played over some of the best courses in the world, in all weathers, and there is something special about watching the worlds best really struggle to go around in par. The list of winners is a whos who of the games leading figures and as well as needing to perform under pressure, the winner will also need to take it on the chin if the ball gets a bad kick etc and bounce back from it. Its all about strength, character and resolve and there is no tournament in the world like it. Dont get me wrong, I love the masters, but on 15 for example, every pro is on the top of the hill looking down on the green, on 16 every pro is hitting the ball to the right half of the green and letting it feed down to the hole, on 12 every pro is aiming to put it over the front bunker so it doesnt go in the creek. There is hardly ever a breath of wind and as much as I love it, it no Open Championship. Even if 2 players both find the fairway at The Open, one ball could be on an upslope and one could have a hanging lie. Its certainly not monotonous anyway. And if I was asked this question in the first week of April, my answer would still be the same.
    Also - US Open 3rd and USPGA 4th obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,461 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    1. Masters
    2. US Open
    3. The Open
    4. PGA

    Still think winning any major is fantastic...Its funny but the PGA is maybe the hardest to win in that it has always the toughest field, yet its always ranked number 4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭Decoy


    For what it's worth:

    1. The Open Championship. From what I can see in relation to qualifying it is the most 'open' major by far, there are multiple qualifying events all over the world from early in the year. It has deserved the title The Open Championship (as opposed to the irksome British Open title) not only for this reason, but because it has the longest history. This is the 140th Open. Rory won the 111th U.S. Open a few weeks back. This championship requires the players to play every shot in the book & even invent new shots in the process!

    2. The Masters Tournament. Always a personal favourite of mine because I share a birthday with my all-time hero Seve and The Masters is always on around my birthday. I love the fact that this is the only major played on the same course every year but I have to admit I don't like what they have done to it in recent years to try to combat the length of modern players & equipment.

    3. The U.S. Open Championship. Yes, it requires good shot-making, but the penalty for missing fairways has been far too severe in the past. Since the debacle @ Shinnecock the USGA have learned their lesson though and I have been impressed with recent championships. My biggest problem with the U.S. Open is that (like so many PGA Tour events) it is little more than a putting contest most of the time.

    4. The PGA Championship. As already stated many times it lacks the glitter of the other majors but I do think they are trying to bring it up the standings by playing on modern course like the imposing Whistling Straits. It is still the 4th major, no question, all this chatter about The Players or the WGC events being more important is complete twaddle! It is also the only major that no amateurs play in but given that it is the PGA I think that's fair enough, the amateurs have their British & U.S. Amateur Championships as their majors.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    gotta be the British Open


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭stockdam


    The USPGA is barely a Major.

    The Masters is a great spectacle. The US Open is obviously very tough to win.

    The Open in my opinion is the best major.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭Degag


    I've always thought of it as:

    The Masters
    The Open
    US Open
    USPGA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,900 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    The Masters is in a different league imo because of the uniqueness of it being basically about one course and its history/allure; there is just something about that concept

    for that same reason I like the Players Championship far more than, say, the USPGA


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    Growing up it was always "..this putt to win the Open"

    The Masters is invitational but the US Open and Open Championship could feasibly be won by anyone with a handicap :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    I'm sure Tim Finchem would chime in with THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Uncle Mclovin


    The Americans will say The Masters.

    The Europeans will say The Open.


    My own personal favourite is the Masters. You gotta love Augusta.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    Masters
    Open
    US Open
    PGA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭Jacksquat


    Open
    Masters
    U.S. Open
    PGA

    I've always held the romantic and impossible wish that the PGA would be changed somehow to a major that could be played anywhere in the world


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    Very little between any of them in my opinion
    but when I base it on how much I respect the winner

    1. Masters
    2. US Open
    3. The Open
    4. PGA

    My favs to watch would be too close to call between the Masters and the Open


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Just heard Darren Clarke saying that 'The Open' is the biggest & best, can't argue with that really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭death1234567


    Masters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,098 ✭✭✭Johnny_Fontane


    Masters....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭DH2K9


    US PGA by far :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭Cakes and Ale


    heavyballs wrote: »
    no i think it's the masters,you mentioned above about luck,well that's why i reckon it's the Masters over the open,the best player all round will win more often than not at augusta.........think about it....any chance of Hamilton,Daly or Curtis winning the masters?.......me thinks not.......because of the weather plenty have won by posting a good score and waiting for the others to falter
    at the Masters isn't it mainly the final or secong last group % wise will win which tells me it's a tougher one to win.Yes the heritage of the open is huge but for me links golf although it's the purest form doesn't always reward good golf

    A bit unfair on Daly given he has two majors (a PGA as well).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭DH2K9


    heavyballs wrote: »
    no i think it's the masters,you mentioned above about luck,well that's why i reckon it's the Masters over the open,the best player all round will win more often than not at augusta.........think about it....any chance of Hamilton,Daly or Curtis winning the masters?.......me thinks not.......because of the weather plenty have won by posting a good score and waiting for the others to falter
    at the Masters isn't it mainly the final or secong last group % wise will win which tells me it's a tougher one to win.Yes the heritage of the open is huge but for me links golf although it's the purest form doesn't always reward good golf

    Mike Weir, Trevor Immelman, Zach Johnson. That is all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭heavyballs


    DH2K9 wrote: »
    Mike Weir, Trevor Immelman, Zach Johnson. That is all

    compare the above to Hamilton and Curtis ,,.........come on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,461 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    I would still rather 5 USPGA Championships then no major at all..The USPGA has always got the toughest field in it world ranking wise..

    I do like the idea that someone suggested already is to maybe make it a World Wide major, say Australia or Asia or Europe, but think thats a while away yet...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,729 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    heavyballs wrote: »
    compare the above to Hamilton and Curtis ,,.........come on

    The Masters is not really open to the same shocks as the 2 opens due to it's limited field.

    Next year will be Clarkes first masters in 5 years.

    Some nice playing rights secured for a guy turning 43 next month :)

    Five-year exempt status through the 2016 season
    Exempt at the British Open through age 60
    Five-year exemption for the Masters Tournament
    Five-year exemption for the U.S. Open
    Five-year exemption for the PGA Championship
    Five-year exemption for THE PLAYERS


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    The Open for me, always was the true major in that its not heavily weighted towards European Tour members, unlike the 3 american majors were in the past (at times there might have been only 7 or 8 europeans eligible for the US majors). This has changed now with the pre-qualifying, but its little wonder there were no European winners of US Open/PGA for so many decades when they were outnumbered by about 10 to 1.

    The Open, ever since Arnold Palmer brought attention to it by crossing the atlantic to play it in the early 60s, has always had a healthy percentage of US Tour members playing it, hence their many wins over the years.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Martin567


    heavyballs wrote: »
    compare the above to Hamilton and Curtis ,,.........come on

    Len Mattiace was beaten in the play-off by Mike Weir in 2003. Where is he now?

    You're being very unfair to Curtis & Hamilton. Directly behind Curtis on the Leaderboard in 2003 were Bjorn, Singh, Woods & Love. He has two other victories on the US Tour and qualified by right for the 2008 Ryder Cup. He was also T2 behind Padraig Harrington in the 2008 USPGA.

    Hamilton has won about 15 times on the Japanese Tour and also beat Ernie Els head-to-head in a play-off for the 2004 Open. That was no fluke, he deserved to win.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭heavyballs


    Martin567 wrote: »
    Len Mattiace was beaten in the play-off by Mike Weir in 2003. Where is he now?

    You're being very unfair to Curtis & Hamilton. Directly behind Curtis on the Leaderboard in 2003 were Bjorn, Singh, Woods & Love. He has two other victories on the US Tour and qualified by right for the 2008 Ryder Cup. He was also T2 behind Padraig Harrington in the 2008 USPGA.

    Hamilton has won about 15 times on the Japanese Tour and also beat Ernie Els head-to-head in a play-off for the 2004 Open. That was no fluke, he deserved to win.

    we're talking here about their status before they won the open, in hindsight Curtis has done really well in particular but on the day it was Bjorn's open and he threw it away
    as for the Jap tour..................


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