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Any BIS students out there?

  • 16-07-2011 6:02am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 20


    Thinking about changing courses, and would love to heard from a BIS student about the course. Anything about it really, workload, what building lectures are in, is the course a lot more tech-based than they let on, etc, etc.

    Any response would be great :)

    Will answer about what course I'm currently doing, what it's like, why I want to change etc, if someone is interested!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭maglite


    Workload, Season with a bit of effort required for projects, but you do need a steady attendance. Nothing Chronic.

    Most are on Main Campus, Kane, Boole WW, maybe one a week in WGB or Brookfield.

    It ii slightly more tech based that they say but its not that bad. You would want to kow how to at least use a computer type a document open a web browser etc. But if you have those basics everything else falls into place.

    Savage Job prospects.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Tazzle


    BIS should come with a mental health warning. Make sure you know what you want, and make sure you like what it involves before committing to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 BCMP


    Sounds good, thanks for the replies! I know I want BIS, definitely, so hopefully no mental stress to the form you talk of :p

    Was wondering to what tune the work is, as in is a lot of the year's credits going for the summer exams, or continuous assessment, projects etc.

    Also, 3rd year sounds wicked :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    Tazzle wrote: »
    BIS should come with a mental health warning. Make sure you know what you want, and make sure you like what it involves before committing to it.

    Does that apply to all BIS courses or just the degree in BIS in UCC? I've done a course similar to BIS for my degree but not sure what you mean by mental health warning, stress maybe but that can apply to nearly most college courses unless you plan to sail through without doing much work!? You need to do some bit of work in college if you have any chance of passing no point leaving it up to faith and what not. I am thinking of doing the Masters in BIS or maybe another course in UCC, whether the health warning applies to them I don't know? What's your take on that Tazzle? :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭maglite


    About 30% of course credit is assignment based, But varies depending on what module you pick. Some are 100% CA others 40% but most are 30%.

    Tazzel, I assume you've choose the course and then did't like it, would the same advise not be true of every college course, don't choose Medicine if you don't like blood, Don't choose a Language course if you cant do Languages etc?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    maglite wrote: »
    About 30% of course credit is assignment based, But varies depending on what module you pick. Some are 100% CA others 40% but most are 30%.

    Tazzel, I assume you've choose the course and then did't like it, would the same advise not be true of every college course, don't choose Medicine if you don't like blood, Don't choose a Language course if you cant do Languages etc?

    I agree with Maglite on this one. My degree in ISM but not BIS both are similar and the credit for assignments and projects are about the same as maglite mentioned. Say there wouldn't have been any major differences between my degree and the BIS one except for some of the modules being offered varied. Mine geared towards mainly business/business administration and multimedia with a couple of computer languages mainly HTML, actionscript and VB. The h dip I did in computer science in UCC had done java and css which weren't covered in my degree. I'd imagine the BIS degree in UCC will cover the majority of the computer languages I have mentioned though. I had applied for it as part of my CAO but didn't get enough points for it, got enough points to do it in CIT but went with ISM in ITT instead.

    Sometimes I wonder if I made the right choice sometimes I wonder was the best choice for me at the time as I was two minds between business, computers and business with computers in the courses I were interested in thought BIS/ISM were the areas I was most drawn to so went with that, felt the two degrees were similar but they are different as they focus in on different career paths some more than others.

    The one major difference was that there was no work placement in the course and there was in the BIS ones and I regret not doing the BIS for that reason. I was a little put off by the 4 year long course and felt the step by step was the best option but realise its the same thing and same concept you are studying for, the last year of the courses have the most affect on your final result regardless! Despite the step by step you get a qualification by each one i.e a cert, ordinary degree and honours degree but you get the result of each one and that go towards the final result of that year. While with the four years what you get the end of 1st year, 2nd year and 3rd year may or may not have much bearing on your final year result it might depends I could be wrong might only be from 3rd and 4th year or just 4th year. A lot depends on the course.

    A lot depends entirely on you OP. If BIS is for you go for it, good to get what ever feedback you can on it as BIS seems to be the business now a days, the jobs seem to only be making an appearance here in Ireland, as a lot of the jobs were either in the North, the UK, the USA and abroad!

    Best of luck with your decision.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 BCMP


    Thanks doovdela for the reply, it's great to hear some opinions on it and your perspective of similar courses!

    And Maglite I was wondering about a few things, I had a look through the book of modules there and looked up every module from the BIS timetable for 2010/2011, there seems to be alot of the IS lectures, and they seem very heavily based around programming, as far as I can tell! I'm pretty handy with computers, but I've absolutely no programming, though I understand how it works and have done a few basics for fun years ago, would it be a set-back to have no programming skill?

    Also looking through all the modules, it looks like exactly what I want to do, and it's actually exciting even thinking about it :D However, since this has only been on my mind since around the start of June, and although I've put a HUGE amount of thought into it, keeping me up at night sometimes, I'm still not sure who to contact about changing courses, does anyone know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭maglite


    Yes there are Programming modules and you will have to program. But its at a very fundamental level for most of it, as you move forward in the degree you can choose to not pick some of those modules. For stuff like that you are brought up from the Basics, most if not everyone is in the same boat you describe.

    JeremyH posts here and is also the First Year Co-ordinator. I'm sure if you drop him an email or PM he can meet up with you or arrange for someone to have a chat with you if you need.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 BCMP


    maglite wrote: »
    Yes there are Programming modules and you will have to program. But its at a very fundamental level for most of it, as you move forward in the degree you can choose to not pick some of those modules. For stuff like that you are brought up from the Basics, most if not everyone is in the same boat you describe.

    JeremyH posts here and is also the First Year Co-ordinator. I'm sure if you drop him an email or PM he can meet up with you or arrange for someone to have a chat with you if you need.


    Sounds good, I won't be left behind then!

    Just one more quick question, what is the maths like, overall? Including in accounting etc? Not a maths minded person, but I survive, however if it's too intense I'm screwed :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,027 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    BCMP wrote: »
    Sounds good, I won't be left behind then!

    Just one more quick question, what is the maths like, overall? Including in accounting etc? Not a maths minded person, but I survive, however if it's too intense I'm screwed :p

    Going into 4th BIS.Accounting is easy if you've done it at a LC level, but a lot fail it for the summer exams. If you turn up to class and work on the projects,you'll come out of the course with a 2.1.

    The course isn't difficult.You said you understand the basics of programming and have done it for fun, you'll probably get a 1H in those modules. It's easy enough, it's not CS where you need to know, most have no clue and still pass.

    One thing I'll say,and it's what I reckon Tazzle was eluding to is that if you want to do Commerce,do it,don't pick BIS as a 2nd choice, you'll more than likely hate the course. If you want to do CS but think BIS might give better job prospects, do CS and do a Masters in BIS. BIS undergrad will bore you otherwise


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Aodan83


    Just carrying on from what Titan said, having done accounting for the LC is a bit of an advantage alright. Everyone who did it for the LC said they hadn't learned a whole load new throughout. But if you're willing to put in the work it isn't really all that bad, as long as you can pay a bit of attention and do a bit of study.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭maglite


    BCMP wrote: »
    what is the maths like, overall? Including in accounting


    Math is non existent. And accounting well if you turn up to class you have a better chance of passing:o Totally doable


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 BCMP


    Thanks everyone for the replies, the info and the help :)

    I've made my decision and will be hoping to get a place in BIS for September, wish me luck! :p


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