Will your other half sit at the bar for a drink???

HellFireClub

Just something I've noticed through the years, is that some girls I've been in company with will not sit at a bar when in your company, it's not something I've read too much into and certainly not something I've ever had an issue with... I do think it can be humorous though that some girls will refuse to sit at a bar on the basis it seems that it isn't ladylike to do so, while some girls would give a fiddlers where they sit in a pub...

Also I've noticed over the years that some girls will not walk into a pub on their own, I've been on the receiving end of a few txts asking me to go out meet a girl at the door of the pub on her way in....

It's funny that we pride ourselves on how much we have come on in Ireland in the last few decades, but it seems that there is still a little overhang that is there with the holding onto some of the older traditons regarding where women should sit (according to themselves!), in a pub...

Any else notice this?!?

Logical Fallacy

Well neither myself or herself drink anymore, but when we did we would sit where the empty seats were. Never really thought about it before.

That said, people who sit at bars in busy pubs tend to piss me off...as normally the give you a glare for standing there ordering...as if that wasn't going to happen with where they are sitting.:D

py2006

Hmm can't say I have noticed this before.

Although, I have known women who won't be the first to arrive at a pub.

HellFireClub

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Well neither myself or herself drink anymore, but when we did we would sit where the empty seats were. Never really thought about it before.

That said, people who sit at bars in busy pubs tend to piss me off...as normally the give you a glare for standing there ordering...as if that wasn't going to happen with where they are sitting.:D

I think it's a gas thing though, I mean if you tried to tell a girl she couldn't sit at the bar you'd probably end up wearing your drink lol!

Most girls though, (and this is in a quiet pub), I've found just will not sit at a bar for a drink, I get a giggle these days out of trying to get them to try it and seeing them dodging it in all sorts of ways, (usually a trip to the toilet!)...

ToniTuddle

I sit at the bar no problem!
But if it's busy I don't like it as you feel in the way of folks trying to order drinks plus you are more than likely going to get Guinness or some other over flowing drink spilled on you. Or if there is some old twat ye don't like at the bar then I wouldn't sit there as you would get no peace from them! :pac:

When we were younger my mates were brutal for not wanting to go into the bar first and I was quite shy myself but I had no other choice than be the one to charge on in, otherwise we would be stuck outside ages.

sunflower27

The seats are never as comfortable and if the pub is busy, sitting at the bar is just a hassle. I wouldn't have said it is a woman thing. Also, a lot of men sit at the bar to watch football/matches. They just sit and drink and don't chat - not much fun if you have no interest in the game.

HellFireClub

sunflower27 wrote: »

The seats are never as comfortable and if the pub is busy, sitting at the bar is just a hassle. I wouldn't have said it is a woman thing. Also, a lot of men sit at the bar to watch football/matches. They just sit and drink and don't chat - not much fun if you have no interest in the game.

Any time I've humoursly questioned the logic of this, the answer has usually been along the lines of, "sure I'm a lady, I'm not sitting down to drink with the barflys!"

Then the mad thing is that some of the most proper girls I know have no issue at all with it, which I put down to their own kind of uber confidence...

krudler

Drives me nuts when anyone sits at the bar, taking up space,nothing worse than trying to get served over two gombeens sitting there in a packed pub. the place has couches and tables and chairs other places, use em

ArtyC

If the pub is busy I won't but yeah unless I'm having a private conversation or something I love sitting at the bar and having a laugh with staff and that. on a sunday session in a quiet pub where everyone gathers together.

ToniTuddle

sunflower27 wrote: »

The seats are never as comfortable and if the pub is busy, sitting at the bar is just a hassle. I wouldn't have said it is a woman thing. Also, a lot of men sit at the bar to watch football/matches. They just sit and drink and don't chat - not much fun if you have no interest in the game.

Aye that's another one! It's fine sitting there for few hours but it can get uncomfortable with no back support unless it's a grand wee local place and ye can sprawl yer arms over the counter and rest yourself. Anywhere else might think ye were fierce drunk looking doing that :pac:

HellFireClub wrote: »

Any time I've humoursly questioned the logic of this, the answer has usually been along the lines of, "sure I'm a lady, I'm not sitting down to drink with the barflys!"

I've known a few girls who had that logic. But in fairness suppose girls might go out in large groups and with them most likely wearing high heels they want to sit down in a comfortable seat. Plus be round a big table were folks can talk more easy to each other. Sitting in a line at the bar you can only really chat to the ones on either side of you.

My mum would think it wasn't ladylike to sit at the bar. Or even to hang in around at the "bar" side instead of the lounge side of the pub.

mikedone

krudler wrote: »

Drives me nuts when anyone sits at the bar, taking up space,nothing worse than trying to get served over two gombeens sitting there in a packed pub. the place has couches and tables and chairs other places, use em

When I was living in London the place I drank used to take away the stools at the weekend so no-one could sit and obstruct the bar. Used to drive a few of the locals daffy but it was a good idea in a busy pub.

sunflower27

ToniTuddle wrote: »

Aye that's another one! It's fine sitting there for few hours but it can get uncomfortable with no back support unless it's a grand wee local place and ye can sprawl yer arms over the counter and rest yourself. Anywhere else might think ye were fierce drunk looking doing that :pac:

My mum would think it wasn't ladylike to sit at the bar. Or even to hang in around at the "bar" side instead of the lounge side of the pub.

If you aren't falling off the seat I wouldn't think anyone would think I was a barfly.

It's just not as comfortable, but if it was the only seat left, yeah, I'd take it

Neyite

Never really considered it until I read this thread. I think for me I would prefer sitting at a table rather than the bar because at the bar, people push between you and halt the conversation until they feck off, you are more likely to get something spilled on you, you have to mind where your handbag is, and if you are not with a bloke, probably get hit on a couple of times during the night by some dweeb that thinks you plonked yourself there purely for honing their cheesy lines.

But then, I dont like standing either. I'm petite so the perfect size to get an elbow in the face, and I usually wear heels and try to minimise my standing time.

One girly habit that drives me cracked is having to accompany your mate to the bog. When I need to take a piss, off I go. I hate when another girl drags me to the jacks, or worse, makes me share a cubicle :eek:. Hate that girly bonding crap. Why cant some women just get up and go to the jacks on her own?

krudler

mikedone wrote: »

When I was living in London the place I drank used to take away the stools at the weekend so no-one could sit and obstruct the bar. Used to drive a few of the locals daffy but it was a good idea in a busy pub.

it is, during quiet times or a smal bar, fine, in a packed city centre pub? how is that comfortable anyway to have people roaring drinks orders over you?

HellFireClub

Ye know I've never looked at this problem as a linear issue, (when sitting at a bar), as opposed to a circular or more rounded issue (when sitting at another type of table!), until I read the last post on here!

I can so so so see now why any person, (regardless of gender I hasten to add!), would feel a bit weird sitting at a bar when proper conversation couldn't be really had, with making eye contact with people and discussing and chatting, whereas at the bar, people are more or less sitting parallel to each other by virtue of where they are sitting...

But the mad thing I suppose is that I have never been in the company of a girl who gave this as the reason why they are not comfortable sitting up at a bar, it;s always been something like, "only arsehóle barflys sitting up there", or else, "I'm a lady and I'm not sitting at a bar so deal with it!"...

And the strangest thing of all (I think), is that the girls who I've known to be the most "proper" are the very one's who will sit at a bar and not give a fiddlers about what the perception is, while the girls who are more concerned with their perception, but at the same time are a lot less secure in themselves, are the very girl's who will tell you that they are a lady and will not sit and drink at the bar...

I've also found that some of my mates have girlfriends who will not go to the bar, because they are of the view that it is their boyfriends job to do that and the lads/boyfriends themselves would be even more insistent that their lady should never have to go to the bar to buy a drink, because to do so is somehow less becoming for a lady..

I think it's an old Dublin tradition, because my mates are all from what might be called "true blue" Dublin suburbs, and old traditions like these seem to get carried through the generational winds so to speak.

Eve_Dublin

Here in Spain it's considered odd behaviour to go to a bar on your own for both genders. People pity you or think you're an odd ball. I've confirmed this with all my students and friends and just from my own pbservations. They also won't wait for inside the bar and stand otuside 'till you come. I often go to bars for a beer during the day to read a book but I get away with it as I'm a foreigner but the Spanish would never do that. I'd say the behaviour you're talking about is much more acceptable in Ireland than anywhere else I've been to. My housemate told me she was sitting at the bar in Canada and a bunch of guys asked her was she a prostitute. She was wearing jeans and a t-shirt.

By the way, I've gone to plenty of bars on my own and sat at the bar in Ireland and 7/10 I got chatted up and 9/10 I don't want to be chatted up. Just wanted a quiet pint and to read and maybe chat to someone without any ulterior motive It's a little more complicated when you're a woman, I believe.

Neyite

Neyite wrote: »

One girly habit that drives me cracked is having to accompany your mate to the bog. When I need to take a piss, off I go. I hate when another girl drags me to the jacks, or worse, makes me share a cubicle :eek:. Hate that girly bonding crap. Why cant some women just get up and go to the jacks on her own?

Eh, what. Are you serious

Eve_Dublin

HellFireClub wrote: »

Ye know I've never looked at this problem as a linear issue, (when sitting at a bar), as opposed to a circular or more rounded issue (when sitting at another type of table!), until I read the last post on here!

I can so so so see now why any person, (regardless of gender I hasten to add!), would feel a bit weird sitting at a bar when proper conversation couldn't be really had, with making eye contact with people and discussing and chatting, whereas at the bar, people are more or less sitting parallel to each other by virtue of where they are sitting...

But the mad thing I suppose is that I have never been in the company of a girl who gave this as the reason why they are not comfortable sitting up at a bar, it;s always been something like, "only arsehóle barflys sitting up there", or else, "I'm a lady and I'm not sitting at a bar so deal with it!"...

And the strangest thing of all (I think), is that the girls who I've known to be the most "proper" are the very one's who will sit at a bar and not give a fiddlers about what the perception is, while the girls who are more concerned with their perception, but at the same time are a lot less secure in themselves, are the very girl's who will tell you that they are a lady and will not sit and drink at the bar...

I've also found that some of my mates have girlfriends who will not go to the bar, because they are of the view that it is their boyfriends job to do that and the lads/boyfriends themselves would be even more insistent that their lady should never have to go to the bar to buy a drink, because to do so is somehow less becoming for a lady..

I think it's an old Dublin tradition, because my mates are all from what might be called "true blue" Dublin suburbs, and old traditions like these seem to get carried through the generational winds so to speak.

Not being smart but you've come across behaviour like this and...so what? People are entitled to sit where they like and have their reasons for doing so, ye know?

By the way, sounds like you need to meet some more people without a pole wedged up their arse. I'm 31 and never in all my years have I come across this kind of attitude among friends and aquaintances.

HellFireClub

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

Not being smart but you've come across behaviour like this and...so what? People are entitled to sit where they like and have their reasons for doing so, ye know?

By the way, sounds like you need to meet some more people without a pole wedged up their arse. I'm 31 and never in all my years have I come across this kind of attitude among friends and aquaintances.

Yeah. That's what we are discussing on here. If you don't want to discuss it or it's not something that you've observed within your own particular circle, then why bother contributing to the discussion for the purposes of trying to start an argument about it and then getting the thead locked?

Wolfe Tone

Most girls I know wont sit at the bar, don't think they like the tall stools?

I love sitting at the bar.

Malari

I like sitting at the bar when there's only two of us there. It's too difficult to chat if there are three or more people. I like that there are often hooks under the bar for coats!

One of the things I bet some girls don't like about sitting on tall stools is that it can make your thighs look fat :-) and especially if you are in a short skirt it can make you a bit self-conscious.

tbh

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

Not being smart but you've come across behaviour like this and...so what? People are entitled to sit where they like and have their reasons for doing so, ye know?

Eve- I you don't think it's a worthwhile topic. I suggest you don't post on thread. People are entitled to start threads on any subject they like as long as they conform to the charter.

Ophiopogon

I like to sit at the bar if I'm just in having a few pints and a chat but I would agree with others that I just couldn't if it was a busy bar. I never understand people who sit there when its busy as I think its must be miserable having people reach over all the time.

I think(and maybe I'm generalising) but the girls your talking about are the type that don't drink pints as its "unladylike" and really girls like that IMO are talking out of their arse.

HellFireClub

Ophiopogon wrote: »

I like to sit at the bar if I'm just in having a few pints and a chat but I would agree with others that I just couldn't if it was a busy bar. I never understand people who sit there when its busy as I think its must be miserable having people reach over all the time.

I think(and maybe I'm generalising) but the girls your talking about are the type that don't drink pints as its "unladylike" and really girls like that IMO are talking out of their arse.

I think there is nothing sexier than a girl sitting at the bar! But at a busy bar there is nothing more annoying but I love a quiet drink at the bar with a girl...

Ophiopogon

^HA well whatever floats your boat

I think its the best place for atmosphere of the bar and even when your with people you know, you'll always strike up a chat with a stranger too.

HellFireClub

Ophiopogon wrote: »

^HA well whatever floats your boat

I think its the best place for atmosphere of the bar and even when your with people you know, you'll always strike up a chat with a stranger too.

It's funny sometimes when you see the barman checking out your mot haha! :D:D

Stheno

bluewolf wrote: »

Eh, what. Are you serious

+1!

I travel a lot with work and that has knocked any issues I had with sitting at a bar/going into a bar alone, sitting down for a drink by myself on the head.

Depends on the pub tbh, one place I go to watch sports, I'd happily sit at the bar with the sport nerds, others I'd prefer to sit down and relax. Strangely the one place I like to sit at the bar has stools with backs and roundy arms so are quite confortable. It's the constant moving if it's busy and punters want drinks that drives me nuts.

Malari

Stheno wrote: »

I travel a lot with work and that has knocked any issues I had with sitting at a bar/going into a bar alone, sitting down for a drink by myself on the head.

Actually, it's true, I tend to sit at the bar if I'm going to be alone in a bar for any time. I have a few friends who are chronically late so I can end up waiting for 15 mins or so quite often. Sitting at the bar is nice, even if we end up moving to other seats when they eventually join me.

Big Nasty

Has to be at the bar or tall table / ledge type thing. Sitting down at a table is like drinking at home.

ToniTuddle

Neyite wrote: »

I hate when another girl drags me to the jacks, or worse, makes me share a cubicle :eek:. Hate that girly bonding crap. Why cant some women just get up and go to the jacks on her own?

Ha!!
If I drag a female friend to the toilets and into the jacks it's normally to top up our drinks with some sneakysneaky alcohol from our handbags

ToxicPaddy

An ex of mine years ago had this idea that a lady should never:

• Go to the bar to order a drink
• Drink from a pint glass
• Sit at the bar

Apart from her being as far from a lady as you could get, this whole notion of her having me running to the bar and back for her whenever she felt like it was kicked into touch very quickly..

I know lots of girls who have no problems going to the bar or sitting at it. Granted in some bars it just not an option as the place it too busy and you're stopping people getting to the bar themselves, but with quieter bars, I do like it, especially if I'm on my own having a quiet pint

I used to work in bars for years and if the bar was quiet, I liked having a few people propped up on high stools sitting at the bar and having a laugh and a chat with them. It was an enjoyable side of the job and I got to know a good few people fairly well this way.

stargazer 68

ToxicPaddy wrote: »

An ex of mine years ago had this idea that a lady should never:

• Go to the bar to order a drink
• Drink from a pint glass
• Sit at the bar

.

Well Im clearly not a lady then!!

Malari

ToxicPaddy wrote: »

An ex of mine years ago had this idea that a lady should never:

• Go to the bar to order a drink
• Drink from a pint glass
• Sit at the bar

This is a pretty old-fashioned view I would have thought? I know my mom never goes to the bar if she is with my dad. A couple of friends of mine have parents with the same idea.

ToxicPaddy

Dovies wrote: »

Well Im clearly not a lady then!!

Well neither was she, she just had illusions of grandeur about herself..

ToxicPaddy

Malari wrote: »

This is a pretty old-fashioned view I would have thought? I know my mom never goes to the bar if she is with my dad. A couple of friends of mine have parents with the same idea.

Yeah its very old fashioned, but to be honest, I put it down to pure and utter laziness, nothing more hence why she became an ex!!

petes

In my local I'd always sit at the bar, if it gets too busy (and sometimes it's too busy) we'd probably head to another bar as it is a pain people reaching over you for drinks.. I was out with the girl I'm seeing and her friend and a couple of mine and we were all at the bar albeit kind of in a group and not all in a line.

LittleBook

My other half would tell you that "it's getting her away from the bar is the problem!" :pac:

HellFireClub wrote: »

Ye know I've never looked at this problem as a linear issue, (when sitting at a bar), as opposed to a circular or more rounded issue (when sitting at another type of table!), until I read the last post on here!

I can so so so see now why any person, (regardless of gender I hasten to add!), would feel a bit weird sitting at a bar when proper conversation couldn't be really had, with making eye contact with people and discussing and chatting, whereas at the bar, people are more or less sitting parallel to each other by virtue of where they are sitting

Yep, the only thing more irritating than a couple of people taking up bar space in a busy pub, is a group of people taking up bar space in a busy pub.

I think if there was availability I would tend to go for a table rather than the bar, but I'd have no problem being at the bar.

Thinking about it, if we're travelling/someplace new and open to chatting to other people, the bar is the best place to sit. But if we want somewhere a little more cosy, tables are better.

HellFireClub wrote: »

But the mad thing I suppose is that I have never been in the company of a girl who gave this as the reason why they are not comfortable sitting up at a bar, it;s always been something like, "only arsehóle barflys sitting up there", or else, "I'm a lady and I'm not sitting at a bar so deal with it!"...

And the strangest thing of all (I think), is that the girls who I've known to be the most "proper" are the very one's who will sit at a bar and not give a fiddlers about what the perception is, while the girls who are more concerned with their perception, but at the same time are a lot less secure in themselves, are the very girl's who will tell you that they are a lady and will not sit and drink at the bar...

Well, when you're in "the company of a girl" (i.e. just the two people) that particular linear vs. circular aspect is not a valid reason to not sit at the bar. Maybe she's used to sitting at tables with groups so it's a habit more than anything. Or maybe she feels a table would be more intimate.

Because the chairs are less comfortable, because I'm wearing a short skirt, because I hate being spilled on/jostled by people ordering drinks, because people keep poking me as they walk past, because I feel like we're being interrupted, because I'd like somewhere a little more intimate and cosy ... all valid reasons not to sit at the bar.

Arseholes, barflys and "I'm a feckin' lady" ... nuh-uh.

Maple

Sitting at the bar is great craic, provided the pub isn't wedged with people. Myself and my friends would often sit at the bar chatting and have had great nights talking to randomers who have had to get past us to get a drink.

I wouldn't do it if there was a large group of us and I certainly wouldn't sit there if it was a busy night in the pub, too frustrating and awkward for everyone involved.

Don't understand the need to go to the bathroom in pairs either, nor the fear about being the first one to enter the pub or even walk in by yourself.

Snoopy1

I dont like sitting at the bar, because i just feel in the way of everyone coming in ordering drinks.
I would walk into a bar on my own, but it makes me feel pretty uncomfortable.
I will go up to the bar and order my own drinks. Used to know this girl who would never go up to bar and order the drinks (probably pure laziness on her part), now that i do not understand!!!

Eve_Dublin

tbh wrote: »

Eve- I you don't think it's a worthwhile topic. I suggest you don't post on thread. People are entitled to start threads on any subject they like as long as they conform to the charter.

Fair enough. Sorry.

Eve_Dublin

HellFireClub wrote: »

Yeah. That's what we are discussing on here. If you don't want to discuss it or it's not something that you've observed within your own particular circle, then why bother contributing to the discussion for the purposes of trying to start an argument about it and then getting the thead locked?

I wasn't trying to start an argument. Apologies if it came across that way. I suppose it's interesting that some women might feel that way. Honestly never thought about it.

I like to sit at the bar but it can't be done in a busy bar. There's more fun to be had up there as more people are passing by. A lot of the the time though, sitting at a bar alone invites unwelcome atttention in my experience

Lippy C

I will go into pub on my own sit at the bar esp if there is a match on I want to watch and I like chatting to people while they are waiting to order drinks. If it gets too busy I will move. I will never understand why women go in groups to the ladies :eek:

Stheno

Lippy C wrote: »

I will never understand why women go in groups to the ladies :eek:

Jokey explanation :

When you visit a public bathroom, you usually find a line of women, so you smile politely and take your place. Once it's your turn, you check for feet under the stall doors. Every stall is occupied.

Finally, a door opens and you dash in, nearly knocking down the woman leaving the stall.
You get in to find the door won't latch. It doesn't matter, the wait has been so long you are about to wet your pants! The dispenser for the modern "seat covers" (invented by someone's Mom, no doubt) is handy, but empty. You would hang your purse on the door hook, if there was one, but there isn't - so you carefully, but quickly drape it around your neck, (Mom would turn over in her grave if you put it on theFLOOR!), yank down your pants, and assume " The Stance."

In this position your aging, toneless thigh muscles begin to shake. You'd love to sit down, but you certainly hadn't taken time to wipe the seat or lay toilet paper on it, so you hold "The Stance."

To take your mind off your trembling thighs, you reach for what you discover to be the empty toilet paper dispenser. In your mind, you can hear your mother's voice saying, "Honey, if you had tried to clean the seat, you would haveKNOWNthere was no toilet paper!" Your thighs shake more.

You remember the tiny tissue that you blew your nose on yesterday - the one that's still in your purse. (Oh yeah, the purse around your neck, that now, you have to hold up trying not to strangle yourself at the same time). That would have to do. You crumple it in the puffiest way possible. It's still smaller than your thumbnail

Someone pushes your door open because the latch doesn't work. The door hits your purse, which is hanging around your neck in front of your chest, and you and your purse topple backward against the tank of the toilet. "Occupied!" you scream, as you reach for the door, dropping your precious, tiny, crumpled tissue in a puddle on the floor, lose your footing altogether, and slide down directly onto theTOILET SEAT. It is wet of course. You bolt up, knowing all too well that it's too late. Your bare bottom has made contact with every imaginable germ and life form on the uncovered seat because YOU never laid down toilet paper - not that there was any, even if you had taken time to try. You know that your mother would be utterly appalled if she knew, because, you're certain her bare bottom never touched a public toilet seat because, frankly, dear, "You just don'tKNOWwhat kind of diseases you could get."

By this time, the automatic sensor on the back of the toilet is so confused that it flushes, propelling a stream of water like a fire hose against the inside of the bowl that sprays a fine mist of water that covers your butt and runs down your legs and into your shoes. The flush somehow sucks everything down with such force that you grab onto the empty toilet paper dispenser for fear of being dragged in too.

At this point, you give up. You're soaked by the spewing water and the wet toilet seat. You're exhausted. You try to wipe with a gum wrapper you found in your pocket and then slink out inconspicuously to the sinks.

You can't figure out how to operate the faucets with the automatic sensors, so you wipe your hands with spit and a dry paper towel and walk past the line of women still waiting.

You are no longer able to smile politely to them. A kind soul at the very end of the line points out a piece of toilet paper trailing from your shoe. (Where was that when youNEEDEDit??) You yank the paper from your shoe, plunk it in the woman's hand and tell her warmly, "Here, you just might need this."

As you exit, you spot your hubby, who has long since entered, used, and left the men's restroom. Annoyed, he asks, "What took you so long, and why is your purse hanging around your neck?"

This is dedicated to women everywhere who deal with a public restrooms (rest??? you've GOT to be kidding!!). It finally explains to the men what really does take us so long. It also answers their other commonly asked questions about why women go to the restroom in pairs. It's so the other gal can hold the door, hang onto your purse and hand you Kleenex under the door!

Lippy C

SarahMs

I love sitting at the bar, best place to have the craic. and when ya get in with the barmen a few free drinks aswell :rolleyes:

Jimmy Two Times

Always try to sit at the bar in my local, meself and herself, regardless of how busy or otherwise it is.

Best spot for meeting and chatting to the other regulars,the staff and for getting served quickly.

On the odd occasion that there is no space we'll just hang around and " intimidate " some poor unfortunate until he/she vacates our spot .

Missus actually prefers this to sitting elsewhere,although in our boozer ( it has to be said ) there are not too many tables and there are definitely no couches .

nicowa

HellFireClub wrote: »

Also I've noticed over the years that some girls will not walk into a pub on their own, I've been on the receiving end of a few txts asking me to go out meet a girl at the door of the pub on her way in....

While I might worry about walking into a pub to have to wait for a group of friends, I think I'd lose all self respect if I couldn't walk in alone when said group of friends were waiting for me.

Though I will admit, walking into a busy pub and not being able to find them does leave me a bit embarrassed (years of being the sado with no friends).

Neyite wrote: »

One girly habit that drives me cracked is having to accompany your mate to the bog. When I need to take a piss, off I go. I hate when another girl drags me to the jacks, or worse, makes me share a cubicle :eek:. Hate that girly bonding crap. Why cant some women just get up and go to the jacks on her own?

And they dance to Destiny's Child, Independant Women... The irony... (again I know girls like this, not just making stupid comments...)

HellFireClub wrote: »

I've also found that some of my mates have girlfriends who will not go to the bar, because they are of the view that it is their boyfriends job to do that and the lads/boyfriends themselves would be even more insistent that their lady should never have to go to the bar to buy a drink, because to do so is somehow less becoming for a lady..

Malari wrote: »

if you are in a short skirt it can make you a bit self-conscious.

Yep... and don't say "don't wear short skirts then". When I'm out in a group I don't usually plan on sitting at the bar.

I find it depends on the pub. I used to hang at the bar in my local in London, but I was usually there on my own and just chatting with the locals and the pubfolk that I knew (I'm a 24yr old female if that changes anything).

If the pub is busy but has one or two stools by the bar I'll sit there with friends (some standing usually) until we can grab somewhere more confortable.

I'd usually never sit at the bar for long unless I was in a pair. And I'd usually never sit at the bar in my home village - that might be snobbish but I never really got on with anyone there so I wasn't looking to converse. Actually, it really is snobbish... wow, gotta change that attitude! :eek:

Sitting at the bar in a new local is the best way to meet people. Really should now try it in my old locals! :rolleyes: