Nct retest

Dangerdunf

Hi All,

I was just wondering, if I had to go back for a retest due to emissions and put a visor on the window and left it on for the retest would they take any notice of it or could I still fail due to the visor if the emissions were under the pass rate?

voxpop

They should only retest what has failed - but why take the risk

Moanin

They will only retest what you failed on

Dangerdunf

Right. Thanks for the replies.

skir2000

Is this a fact or is it hearsay that they can only fail you on what the restest is for? There seems to be a lot of people saying this! Any help would be appreciated!

biko

They can, and will, fail you if they see something else that's wrong with the car.
For instance if your lights stopped working just before the retest you might fail on that this time if they check, or missing pieces that were there the first time.

CiniO

biko wrote: »

They can, and will, fail you if they see something else that's wrong with the car.

Something wrong is not enough to fail the retest.
It must be something that is "dangerous to public".

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2009/en/si/0567.html

(3) Subject to paragraph (4), in carrying out a re-test on a vehicle only those reasons in respect of items which gave rise to the refusal of the test certificate shall be tested.


(4) Where in the course of a test or a re-test, the issuing authority forms the opinion that a defect, notwithstanding that it is not specified as a reason for refusal mentioned in Schedule 3 or, in the case of a re-test was not specified in the test report, is such that the use of the vehicle in question would be a danger to the public, that defect shall be a reason for the refusal of a test certificate.

For instance if your lights stopped working just before the retest you might fail on that this time if they check, or missing pieces that were there the first time.

I strongly doubt that not working light could fall under above category.

wonski

CiniO wrote: »

Something wrong is not enough to fail the retest.
It must be something that is "dangerous to public".

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2009/en/si/0567.html



I strongly doubt that not working light could fall under above category.

But it should to be honest. If car arrives at 6:30 pm with no lights for visual retest, would you pass it?
Dangerous to public is very broad term to be honest.
Tester's discretion.

CiniO

wonski wrote: »

But it should to be honest. If car arrives at 6:30 pm with no lights for visual retest, would you pass it?
Dangerous to public is very broad term to be honest.
Tester's discretion.

In theory - yes.

But here's another one:

Fail dangerous


9. Where upon completion of a test the issuing authority considers that the vehicle tested if driven would be a danger to the public, the issuing authority shall affix to the vehicle a notice to that effect and containing the words “fail dangerous”.

For every fault which they consider is dangerous to public they should do "fail dangerous" which means that vehicle can't be driven out of NCT centre and must be towed.

Would you imagine every person who fails for missing light would have to tow their car off the NCT centre? It's definitely not happening in reality.

The same expression is used in both: "danger to the public", so they can't fail retest on something which shouldn't be part of retest, while they don't fail dengerous vehicles on it normally.

wonski

CiniO wrote: »

In theory - yes.

But here's another one:



For every fault which they consider is dangerous to public they should do "fail dangerous" which means that vehicle can't be driven out of NCT centre and must be towed.

Would you imagine every person who fails for missing light would have to tow their car off the NCT centre? It's definitely not happening in reality.

The same expression is used in both: "danger to the public", so they can't fail retest on something which shouldn't be part of retest, while they don't fail dengerous vehicles on it normally.

In reality they shoud ask the driver to get the lights fixed on site, which is not big deal. But they won't, so they blink...
Anyway i was lucky to go through nct with nothing major, fixed, came back and get the cert. Simple as that.

CiniO

wonski wrote: »

In reality they shoud ask the driver to get the lights fixed on site, which is not big deal. But they won't, so they blink...
Anyway i was lucky to go through nct with nothing major, fixed, came back and get the cert. Simple as that.

I wonder if they actually do "fail dangerous" often?
I never heard about anyone who would fail like that, and I also don't recall anyone here on boards who would fail like that (but surely I could miss that).

Considering that I think "fail dangerous" is real seldom thing.

nct tester

fail dangerous is common enough. car leaking brake fluid is fail dangerous and so is the primary or seconday catch on a bonnet. there are others that can be failed dangerous depending on situation, ie. top shock mount badly worn is a fail but top shock mount completely broken would definitly be fail dangerous.

CiniO

nct tester wrote: »

fail dangerous is common enough. car leaking brake fluid is fail dangerous and so is the primary or seconday catch on a bonnet. there are others that can be failed dangerous depending on situation, ie. top shock mount badly worn is a fail but top shock mount completely broken would definitly be fail dangerous.

And do people really get a towing truck then to get car from NCT centre to garage?
Or they just drive off?

Asking out of curiousity

nct tester

some do , some dont. ive seen cars fail for burst brake pipes ,i go in and check in the next car and when i came back out the car was gone. ignorance plays a big part.

skir2000

Thanks for your replies folks. The reason I am asking this is because my car failed the nct the other day due to a rear axle brake imbalance (42%) - which calls for a retest. The problem I have is that my yellow engine warning light comes on whenever I hit the motorway (at >100 km/hr). It is due to a lambda sensor. When I bring my car in for the retest with the new and improved brakes, is there a chance that I will fail the test due to the warning light displaying, even though it was not flagged in the original test? Also, the warning light was not on in the original test.

I simply cannot afford to get my brakes and lambda sensor replaced at the same time. Any help?

biko

It depends on the car, what model is it?

If you look at the NCT manual
http://www.ncts.ie/pdf/NCT%20Manual%20Revise%20May%202012.pdf
it's a fail in a diesel car. Petrol car with light on is not mentioned.
In any case get it read by a mechanic with a reader, the light isn't on for no reason

nct tester

engine management light wont cause a fail. if a diesel car comes in with an engine management light on, but there is sufficient oil in it and it appears to be running as it should be , then an emission test will be carried out. the only lights that are fail are airbag, anything to do wtih abs, traction control , esp etc and handbrake warning light

mgbgt1978

I didn't think that the NCT did an emissions test on diesels, just a smoke test.


@NCT TESTER, if that's what you meant just ignore my post........

nct tester

yeah technically its called a smoke test but at the end of the day, its emissions that come out of an exhaust whether its petrol or diesel. we just call it emission testing as its done at the same stage of the test everytime.

skir2000

thanks for the replies folks! My plan is to replace the lambda sensor next month

Anjobe

nct tester wrote: »

the only lights that are fail are airbag, anything to do wtih abs, traction control , esp

As a matter of interest, does anybody know why these are now an NCT fail? Is a car with an airbag or abs fault etc less safe than a car that does not have these systems fitted?

I had to get the airbag light fixed for the NCT this year, the car had passed twice previously with the airbag light on.