Trangia

masterjk

Right looking for a trang... for use backpacking but also for normal camping... suggestions on which one to buy or something made by someone else? Gelert Phoenix maybe?? want it to last!

Mycroft H

masterjk wrote: »

Right looking for a trang... for use backpacking but also for normal camping... suggestions on which one to buy or something made by someone else? Gelert Phoenix maybe?? want it to last!

I've one for the last 3 years and recently I camped for three people for two weeks on it.


Advantages:

Light and compact. All the pots, pans, windshield all nest together into a very neat little package.

Reliable. Very little maintenance needed. I clean the burner out with a needle every 6 or so months and thats it. No niggle little seals to contend with coming from a fuel bottle.

Easy to light. Pour the meths in and light it. Self pressurising and away you go.

The cookest when set up is virtually windproof. Gale force winds on the mayo headlands can attest to this.

Disadvantages:


Not as quick as the msr wisperlight ect models. Takes a little bit longer to boil a litre of water.




I have no idea of what the knockoff varients of the trangia are like, thers plenty of them going about to be sure. I've the 27ul cookset btw

masterjk

landyman wrote: »

I've one for the last 3 years and recently I camped for three people for two weeks on it.


Advantages:

Light and compact. All the pots, pans, windshield all nest together into a very neat little package.

Reliable. Very little maintenance needed. I clean the burner out with a needle every 6 or so months and thats it. No niggle little seals to contend with coming from a fuel bottle.

Easy to light. Pour the meths in and light it. Self pressurising and away you go.

The cookest when set up is virtually windproof. Gale force winds on the mayo headlands can attest to this.

Disadvantages:


Not as quick as the msr wisperlight ect models. Takes a little bit longer to boil a litre of water.




I have no idea of what the knockoff varients of the trangia are like, thers plenty of them going about to be sure. I've the 27ul cookset btw

That'd be the 27-1 would it NO kettle, 18cm pan, 2 pots?

masterjk

also... best place to buy??? good price!

Mycroft H

masterjk wrote: »

That'd be the 27-1 would it NO kettle, 18cm pan, 2 pots?

dunno i've long lost the box, but it does have a kettle.


Oline would be cheap. Amazon does them afaik

Roen

www.jackson-sports.com

Belfast located and free shipping to the republic. Got a lot of stuff from them in the past year and I have to say they're great to deal with.

Kevin Duffy

Is there a reason you particularily want a Trangia stove? In comparison to new gas stoves they're very bulky, the fuel is more awkward to manage and not as versatile as multi-fuel stoves, they're not as easily controllable while cooking and they're slower.

Something really compact like a Pocket Rocket would be better for carrying, or a Primus OmniFuel would be still less bulky, more versatile and is a better bet for carrying a few days fuel or heading off on long trips.

If you're looking for a Trangia based on historical reputation - which was well earned - you might want to look again, there could well be something much better available for what you want to do.

emptyshed

Trangias bulletproof and will last a lifetime.
Slow compared to other stuff, and yes a bit bulky, but if ya buy the set, thats all your pots etc.

+1 for jacksonsports, great supplier.


Personally I use Coleman pessure stove, again bulky, but runs on petrol, which you can get anywhere in the world, try buying Meths in a foreign land....!! oh the fun. Have had similar issues with specialist gas bottles etc.

The other advantage of pressue stove is that they can be used at high altitude where many stoves wont operate.

Theres plenty of copycat versions of trangia at better prices, really depends on your use, uture plans etc.

If it's only occassional/ hiking etc look at hexi stoves too....5 euro ish in most army surplus stores.

Cabaal

Picked mine up from amazon.co.uk with free shipping, set me back £60

irishlostboy

trangia = tank. great kit. cannot compare to the lightweight hillwalker alpinist stoves people tend to recommend. they are not like/like.
trangia is a well thought out intigrated kit, with sold pots, pan, kettle that go together perfectly. the hardware is good enough to use with open campfires, and other types of cookers just fine.
you can get meths nearly every other country on earth. the secret is do not look for purple liquid called meths. it is usually clear and is called denatured alcohol, and purchased in hardware stores.
the swedish army trangia is also easily affordable, but not near as good as the civilian version. it is tough, but not as user friendly. a good option if you are broke though. other knock-offs are probably still fairly dependable. it is a simple system. would be tough to arse it up. you can also learn how to make your own burners from coke cans. done well, they out perform commercial versions in boil times.

masterjk

need a quick answer buying today or tomorrow,id there any point in paying extra for the non-stick pan and pots??

acorn

Yes, absolutely go for non stick - especially if you're a porridge fan and only use plastic/wooden utensil for stirring.

After use boil up a drop of water in the dirty pot and it cleans up like a dream.

FrostyJack

Does anyone know where to get the fuel for the Trangia? I have checked B&Q and Woodies DIY and could see none. 53 Degrees North have the burners but no fuel on the Website. I know they have them in the BBQ sections sometimes but it isn't quite BBQ weather yet.

Donny5

You can definitely get methylated spirits in Woodies. I bought a few litres in Sallynoggin recently.

neolithic

http://east-coast-town-and-country-stores.meath.agricultural-suppliers.agriservices.tel/ (around €20 for 4.5lt )

http://www.118.ie/Results.aspx/businessname/Swords_Dublin/Johnstones_Paint_Decorating_Centre

http://www.magentadirect.ie/proddetail.php?prod=MVE0132


Look in the Painting section in the DIY stores

RICHIE.39

Buy mine in woodies..500ml bottle comes in just over a fiver. in the thinners and white spirit section. B and Q won't sell it..apparently according to staff i asked some nutters drank it and werent too well afterwards and blamed the store..

FrostyJack

Cheers guys.

Donny5 wrote: »

You can definitely get methylated spirits in Woodies. I bought a few litres in Sallynoggin recently.

I was in the one in Tallaght in the White Spirits section and there was everything but it. Might have been sold out or the fumes blinded me .

neolithic wrote:

Look in the Painting section in the DIY stores

I still have a few smaller ones to check locally. If I get no joy I will order online.

RICHIE.39 wrote:

B and Q won't sell it..apparently according to staff i asked some nutters drank it and werent too well afterwards and blamed the store..

That's probably why I am finding it hard to locate

sheesh

remember it is methylated spirit not white spirit. meths burn away cleaner and in coloured blue white spirit is clear.

Orion

Never get meths in any hardware store - that includes Woodies. B&Q don't sell it because they don't have a license to afaik. The cheapest you will get it is in a pharmacy that has a license to sell it. Not all pharmacies have a license so ring around. I got 1 litre in Woodies in Naas last year for €12. Got almost 3 litres in a chemist in Boyle two weeks later for €9.

Most chemists will do it in 5L bottles - well worth getting and then get a 500ml fuel bottle to just bring what you need on a trip - you're still saving money.

BarryD

We used to use Trangias for group camping and there was always a bit of an issue with warning people to take care when judging whether they were lit or not. The flame was hard to see in bright light and no noise like a pressure stove. Which I think resulted in some wee 'incidents'. I guess not really a problem if it's your own stove and you know the ins and outs of it.

Mind you, they were a lot easier than getting people to light Primus stoves. Does anyone still use one? I have an old 00 model, I think it is. I found it, if I recall correctly, on the side of Djouce during a school hillwalking trip, back abt 1977. It was half buried, like a landmine, in a burnt patch of ground and the pot supports were well rusted! Brought it home, soldered a wee pin hole in the brass body, sanded off the rust and it's been running perfectly ever since.. And parrafin is a lot cheaper than meths. Not as portable as an MSR but pretty bombproof.

Orion

As we tell the scouts if the lid is off assume it's lit and you can't go wrong.

Mycroft H

Never had the lit or not problem myself. They put out a decent amount of heat so it's easy enough to tell imo.

RICHIE.39

Got almost 3 litres in a chemist in Boyle two weeks later for €9.

Most chemists will do it in 5L bottles - well worth getting and then get a 500ml fuel bottle to just bring what you need on a trip - you're still saving money.[/Quote]
Didn't know about that...thanks. :-)

Mycroft H

Orion wrote: »

Never get meths in any hardware store - that includes Woodies. B&Q don't sell it because they don't have a license to afaik. The cheapest you will get it is in a pharmacy that has a license to sell it. Not all pharmacies have a license so ring around. I got 1 litre in Woodies in Naas last year for €12. Got almost 3 litres in a chemist in Boyle two weeks later for €9.

Most chemists will do it in 5L bottles - well worth getting and then get a 500ml fuel bottle to just bring what you need on a trip - you're still saving money.

Nice one! I always forget about the chemists

neolithic

BarryD wrote: »

We used to use Trangias for group camping and there was always a bit of an issue with warning people to take care when judging whether they were lit or not. The flame was hard to see in bright light and no noise like a pressure stove. Which I think resulted in some wee 'incidents'. I guess not really a problem if it's your own stove and you know the ins and outs of it."

Read this http://www.mayowynnebaxter.co.uk/blog/council-sentenced-after-pupil-burnt-on-camping-expedition/

FrostyJack

neolithic wrote: »

Read this http://www.mayowynnebaxter.co.uk/blog/council-sentenced-after-pupil-burnt-on-camping-expedition/

Pouring in 5 Litres directly into stove? That is crazy.

I did a successful sweep into Woodies today and got 2 bottles of 0.5 Litres of Douglas Brand Methylated spirits in Carrickmines. They had a 2.5 litre tin of it, but I thought that was overkill for what I will use. While I was down there I went into 53 Degrees North and in a moment of spending madness I bought the Gas Burner for it. I looked online and it is about the same price as Amazon give or take a euro. Comparing other stuff like the mulitdisc and the Wayfayrer meals I think I will be shopping there in future for such stuff. I had a look at other Bricks and mortar stores here and they are looking for 20 euro more for some items.

Anyway, I have the 27 UL/AH model which I instantly regretted not getting the 25 model as I had planned to mainly cook MRE/Boil-in-the-bag stuff but they do not sit in the pot comfortably. I say the 25 would be just the right size. The contents fit in the 27 no problem and to cook directly in the pot you could easy fit 2 or more Wayfayrer type meals in.

I filled about 1/2 of the stove with spirits and added some water and lit her up. The system is very easy to use though you need something like a multitool to jig things about without burning your fingers. I timed the burn for 50 mins (I put it out then) and in that time I boiled about 4 pot fulls of water. This would easily cook 5 MRE's in the pot, though I noticed longer boiling times the lower the fuel got. I then topped up the stove again and cooked a Wayfayrer meal in about 9 minutes. This was perfect but I made one stupid mistake, I was making a protein shake and only stired the meal every few minutes, this caused a build up in the middle of the pot which did not come out easily, though the rest cleaned with one wipe (excellent).

I think the Trangia 2.5 billy can might solve my pot size issue and the 27 fits inside that according to the interweb. I was impressed by the burn time and heat from the brass stove but I am leaning towards using the gas stove due to the messiness of the meths. I have the 0.5 Trangia bottle, which I think is a must, but it takes up about the same room as the canister which is a slight bit lighter. I was thinking maybe fill the stove and seal it and carry the gas canister, using the meths as a back up. Still the pots seem bulletproof (bar some staining on the bottom) and are ultra light. Will see how they work in the field, rather than my kitchen

Edit: I looked at the cooking time on the yellow bag and it says 25 mins at 2/3 of its height, so I must have put more in than that, will have to try the experiment again tomorrow and accurately measure the amount in it. As for the food hardened into pot, when I went back over to it after leaving it in a little water it just wiped clean. Best pots ever, can only imagine the water savings clean up using them. No more bloody scrubbing

DubOnHoliday

Funny story, a few weeks ago on a Sunday we decided to go on a spur of the moment hike in Glendalough. I was out of meths and went to the local chemist. They told me they couldn't sell me meths due to a law that prevented sale of alcohol on Sundays. I literally couldn't contain the laughter. In the end they offered me a 100 ml bottle for 5 Eur, I said to the guy, that will last 30 minutes. What a joke, but a amusing experience. I went to halfords where 500ml bottles are 4 Euro.

Orion

well that is why they need a license but if you can't buy alcohol on a Sunday somebody better tell my local publican

iopener

I back up all previous statements about the trangia.it's so simple nothing can go wrong with it its a bit slow boiling water but the reliability is second to none.I would recommend buying the trangia Meths fuel bottle is only a couple of quid.you don't want flamable liquid leaking over you or your gear.chemists are also a good place to buy meths

DubOnHoliday

I'm interested to know what are peoples favourite things to cook on the Trangia. I suppose it depends on how many your cooking for as it can get tedious. Normally there are four of us so I'm opting for a simple fry with pudding and saugages. I did do a coddle once, but it took a long time!!! I reheated a chinse take away a few weeks ago, that worked nicely too

Orion

Anything at all. I've cooked spagbol, full fryups, chops with fried spuds - the only limit is your imagination. I even cooked a lasagne on a hexistove once using two canteens to make an oven.