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Best/ most fair news outlet?
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12-07-2011 8:45pm#1
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Reuters is the best source of news in my experience. It's balanced, fair and its where many of the other news stations of the news pick up their stories. Besides Reuters, i'd say Euronews. On the face of it, it might seem as if they'd have (obviously) a pro-European Union slant, but they do listen to both sides of the story. Their coverage during the Lisbon Treaties showed me that they could be fair, too.
So, Reuters or Euronews. I would say Associated Press, but the AP stinks of an American view on everything
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I read the lefty British newspapers - The Independant and the Guardian. I know both papers are often maligned for a particularly sanctimonious point of view but the guardian in particular engages in some brilliant journalism. This whole NI fiasco wouldn't have erupted in the fashion it did without its investigative journalism.
I read the economist every week. It offers a comprehensive analysis of the week's events in every continent. It also regularly has some very interesting scientific or economic related articles. And I usually look forward to their special reports, which are nearly always interesting (Their recent report on the future of news was surprisingly gripping) Its probably closest to my politics at any rate (Someone said 'the extreme center' - I prefer the term 'excessively realistic'
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I occasionally get the Financial Times weekend edition on a saturday. Nice to mix it up occasionally.
When I'm feeling patriotic I buy the Irish Times, only to be maligned by friends and family for being a west Brit/Protestant
I don't worry much about fairness or bias. Bias is inherent in everything, the more one tries to conceal it the more ludicrous one seems. I love the BBC, think its a British national treasure, but if they really believe they are either impartial or unbiased they need to be checked out for delusional disorder.0 -
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oppenheimer1 wrote: »Go on then, give us an example....
Peter Sissons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sissons
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1349506/Left-wing-bias-Its-written-BBCs-DNA-says-Peter-Sissons.htmlFor 20 years I was a front man at the BBC, anchoring news and current ******affairs programmes, so I reckon nobody is better placed than me to ******answer the question that nags at many of its viewers — is the BBC biased?
In my view, ‘bias’ is too blunt a word to describe the subtleties of the ******pervading culture. The better word is a ‘mindset’. At the core of the BBC, in its very DNA, is a way of thinking that is firmly of the Left.
By far the most popular and widely read newspapers at the BBC are The Guardian and The Independent. ******Producers refer to them routinely for the line to take on ******running stories, and for inspiration on which items to cover. In the later stages of my career, I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’.
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Trade unions are mostly good things, especially when they are fighting BBC managers. Quangos are also mostly good, and the reports they produce are usually handled uncritically. The Royal Family is a bore. Islam must not be offended at any price, although ******Christians are fair game because they do nothing about it if they are offended.
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Complaints from viewers may invariably be met with the BBC’s stock response, ‘We don’t accept that, so get lost’. But complaints from ministers, though they may be rejected publicly, usually cause consternation — particularly if there is a licence fee settlement in the offing. And not just ministers, if a change of Government is thought likely.
Andew Marr
is a British journalist and political commentator. He edited The Independent for two years until May 1998, and was political editor of BBC News from 2000 until 2005.
"The BBC is not impartial or neutral. It's a publicly funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities and gay people. It has a liberal bias not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias",
Andrew Marr
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=411846&in_page_id=1770
Jeff Randell Sue Lawley
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-411846/We-biased-admit-stars-BBC-News.htmlFormer BBC business editor Jeff Randall said he complained to a 'very senior news executive', about the BBC's pro-multicultural stance but was given the reply: 'The BBC is not neutral in multiculturalism: it believes in it and it promotes it.'
Jeremy Hunt MP, Secretary of State for Culture
http://www.digitalspy.ie/broadcasting/news/a292899/jeremy-hunt-bbc-has-left-wing-bias.htmlIn an interview with the Observer, Hunt said that the BBC had been out of touch with public opinion in the past and demonstrated a clear bias to the left on issues such as Europe and immigration.
80 page report
80 page report by the BBC on its left-wing bias as reported on
in the london evening standard.
Bear in mind the BBC wrote the report and they have a left-wing bias
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23400983-bbc-accused-of-institutional-trendy-left-wing-bias.doThe BBC is out of touch with large swathes of the public and is guity of self-censoring subjects that the corporation finds unpalatable, an official report has claimed.
As part of the report's research the BBC's own controller of editorial policy admitted that people felt that the corporation was guilty of a "bias of omission" by not covering their views.
Authors of the report called on the corporation to be more "open-minded" in the views it reflects and warned against "bias of elimination" which it branded "offensive".
The report noted that the BBC had "come late" to several important stories in recent years, including Euroscepticism and immigration , which as it happens, were "off limits" in terms of a liberal-minded comfort zone".
Research for the 80-page report showed that viewers were "frustrated" by political correctness at the BBC and feel the corporation is dominated by a London-centric bias, reflected in its programmes, presenters and coverage.
The report, which was commissioned by the BBC and written by independent programme-maker John Bridcut, also warned that if the BBC's viewers did not feel that the corporation was reflecting their lives and attitudes people would lose faith in it.
Anti-Israel bias
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balen_Report
http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/search/label/anti%20Israel
http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/
Confessions of a BBC liberal
The BBC has finally come clean about its bias, says a former editor, who wrote Yes, Minister
Anthony Jay
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2240427.eceThere are four new factors which in my lifetime have brought about the changes that have shaped media liberalism, encouraged its spread and significantly increased its influence and importance.
The first of these is detribalisation. That our species has evolved a genetic predisposition to form tribal groups is generally accepted as an evolutionary fact. This grouping – of not more than about five or six hundred – supplies us with our identity, status system, territorial instinct, behavioural discipline and moral code.
We in the BBC were acutely detribalised; we were in a tribal institution, but we were not of it. Nor did we have any geographical tribe; we lived in commuter suburbs, we knew very few of our neighbours and took not the slightest interest in local government. In fact we looked down on it. Councillors were self-important nobodies and mayors were a pompous joke.
We belonged instead to a dispersed “metropolitan media arts graduate” tribe. We met over coffee, lunch, drinks and dinner to reinforce our views on the evils of apartheid, nuclear deterrence, capital punishment, the British Empire, big business, advertising, public relations, the royal family, the defence budget – it’s a wonder we ever got home.
The second factor that shaped our media liberal attitudes was a sense of exclusion. We saw ourselves as part of the intellectual elite, full of ideas about how the country should be run. Being naive in the way institutions actually work, we were convinced that Britain’s problems were the result of the stupidity of the people in charge of the country.
This ignorance of the realities of government and management enabled us to occupy the moral high ground. We saw ourselves as clever people in a stupid world, upright people in a corrupt world, compassionate people in a brutal world, libertarian people in an authoritarian world.
We were not Marxists but accepted a lot of Marxist social analysis. We also had an almost complete ignorance of market economics. That ignorance is still there. Say “Tesco” to a media liberal and the patellar reflex says, “Exploiting African farmers and driving out small shopkeepers.” The achievement of providing the range of goods, the competitive prices, the food quality, the speed of service and the ease of parking that attract millions of shoppers does not register on their radar.
The third factor arises from the nature of mass media. The Tonight programme had a nightly audience of about 8m. It was much easier to keep their attention by telling them they were being deceived or exploited by big institutions than by saying what a good job the government and the banks and the oil companies were doing.
The fourth factor is what has been called “isolation technology”. Fifty years ago people did things together much more. The older politicians we interviewed in the early Tonight days were happier in public meetings than in television studios.
In those days people went to evening meetings. They formed collective opinions. In many places party allegiance was collective and hereditary rather than a matter of individual choice based on a logical comparison of policies.
These four factors have significantly accelerated and indeed intensified the spread of media liberalism since I ceased to be a BBC employee 40 years ago.
But let’s suppose that I had stayed. Would I have remained a devotee of the metropolitan media liberal ideology that I once absorbed so readily? I have an awful fear that the answer is yes.
Michael Burke
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1372559/Left-wing-shallow-oh-politically-correct--verdict-BBC-Michael-Buerk.html#ixzz1IO9jRrt8The veteran presenter accuses staff at the Corporation of an inbuilt ‘institutional bias’ and warns that they read the left-wing Guardian newspaper as if it is ‘their Bible’.
Reviewing a memoir by his former colleague Peter Sissons, Buerk endorses his view that the BBC is warped by the prejudices of its staff.
Sir Andrew Green
Chairman of Migration Watch UK on BBC bias on immigration.
http://www.migrationwatch.co.uk/pressArticle/89Yet if you had listened to Radio 4 you would not have known it. Their treatment of this story was abysmal. The Today Programme, the so-called jewel in the BBC's crown, introduced the item with a sound-bite from the BNP claiming that the Government had adopted their policies, but 20 years too late. How is that for a smear?
This was followed by a hostile interview with the Immigration Minister, Damian Green, in which the presenter accused the Prime Minister of making 'an anti-immigrant statement'.
What was he referring to? The Prime Minister's sin, apparently, was to say that 'real communities are bound by common experiences'.
His speech went on to say that 'communities are forged by friendship and conversation, knitted together by all the rituals of the neighbourhood, from the school run to the chat down the pub. All these bonds can take time. So real integration takes time.'
Most of us would think that this was a statement of common sense — not to say the blindingly obvious. But not, it seems if you work for Radio 4.
The rest of the interview bore so little relationship to the Prime Minister's speech that one wondered whether the presenter had even read it.
Next to weigh in was the BBC website which ignored a sensible contribution from the Lib-Dem spokesman, Tom Brake, later on the Today Programme.
Instead it led with a headline in which Vince Cable described the Prime Minister's speech as very unwise and risked 'inflaming extremism'. Nobody who had read the text could possibly draw such a conclusion, but the headline suited the BBC's agenda.
No surprise then that the World At One followed up with a discussion in which racism and extremism featured prominently.
One is left wondering how it is possible to have a sensible debate on immigration when the largest news organisation in the country is so hideously biased on this subject — to adopt the terminology of its former Director General Greg Dyke, who complained memorably that the corporation was 'hideously white'.0 -
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The BBC has a left wing liberal bias
I have prduced the following witness
Senior BBC employees
Michael Burke, Anthony Jay, Andew Marr, Peter Sissons, Jeff Randell Sue Lawley
Jeremy Hunt MP, Secretary of State for Culture
80 page BBC report
Sir Andrew Green
It's important that the BBC bias is exposed due it's power.
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/platform/2011/07/the-bbc-has-a-monopoly-and-its-abusing-it-says-timmontgomerie.html0 -
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Cork boy 55 wrote: »Peter Sissons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sissons
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1349506/Left-wing-bias-Its-written-BBCs-DNA-says-Peter-Sissons.html
Andew Marr
is a British journalist and political commentator. He edited The Independent for two years until May 1998, and was political editor of BBC News from 2000 until 2005.
"The BBC is not impartial or neutral. It's a publicly funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities and gay people. It has a liberal bias not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias",
Andrew Marr
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=411846&in_page_id=1770
Jeff Randell Sue Lawley
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-411846/We-biased-admit-stars-BBC-News.html
Jeremy Hunt MP, Secretary of State for Culture
http://www.digitalspy.ie/broadcasting/news/a292899/jeremy-hunt-bbc-has-left-wing-bias.html
80 page report
80 page report by the BBC on its left-wing bias as reported on
in the london evening standard.
Bear in mind the BBC wrote the report and they have a left-wing bias
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23400983-bbc-accused-of-institutional-trendy-left-wing-bias.do
Anti-Israel bias
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balen_Report
http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/search/label/anti%20Israel
http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/
Confessions of a BBC liberal
The BBC has finally come clean about its bias, says a former editor, who wrote Yes, Minister
Anthony Jay
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2240427.ece
Michael Burke
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1372559/Left-wing-shallow-oh-politically-correct--verdict-BBC-Michael-Buerk.html#ixzz1IO9jRrt8
Sir Andrew Green
Chairman of Migration Watch UK on BBC bias on immigration.
http://www.migrationwatch.co.uk/pressArticle/89
No evidence there, even the balen report was an opinion. Bias is a mindset and it is hard to work against but I do feel the BBC does its best in this regard. As a news/information service I think it does a pretty good job. People who are excessively critical of it are usually extermists of the left and right.0 -
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