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QPR fans should boycott The Sun, after paper tried to spike their promotion

  • 08-07-2011 8:27pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭


    After The Sun tried to spike QPR's promotion by leading with a large headlined back page re the (WRONG) result of the inquiry, less than a week before the outcome ....... QPR fans (and newsagents in W12) should join Liverpool fans in boycotting Murdoch's rag.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,943 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Everyone should boycott that rubbish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Never mind principle, the fact that it's a load of bollocks should be reason enough not to buy it tbf.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    Yes, I understand that. But young people have to try things and find out for themselves. It is a rag and should have it's licence as a newspaper revoked. A paper is supposed to be a news journal. A comic is a comic. So, misrepresentation also comes into it. Innit :D

    Anyway, I found the headline that could be misconstrued as piling pressure on the FA mandarins to come up with the Sun's poisonous lying verdict. Here 'tis:

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3553711/The-FA-are-set-to-strip-QPR-of-promotion-to-the-Premier-League.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭Le King


    I wouldn't read it. Refuse to read it. Worst paper with the Daily Mail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭invinciblePRSTV


    Ah the beauty of hypocritical football fans. Calling for a boycott for one arm of a media conglomerate (the Sun) whilst paying for and enjoying the benefits in terms of TV money to their favourite club and live matches in their house/pub provided by another arm of the same conglomerate (Sky Sports).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Ah the beauty of hypocritical football fans. Calling for a boycott for one arm of a media conglomerate (the Sun) whilst paying for and enjoying the benefits in terms of TV money to their favourite club and live matches in their house/pub provided by another arm of the same conglomerate (Sky Sports).

    A lot of people don't pay for Sky anymore. There are other ways to watch games...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭invinciblePRSTV


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    A lot of people don't pay for Sky anymore. There are other ways to watch games...

    Well Sky are still willing to drop a billion+ sterling on TV rights so someone somewhere is still watching on the goggle box in their house or local pub. Besides, fans are quite happy for all that lovely Murdoch lucre to fund tranfer fees for their club whilst simultaneously bemoaning how nasty some of unkie Rupert's newspaper's are.

    It's just not logical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Well Sky are still willing to drop a billion+ sterling on TV rights so someone somewhere is still watching on the goggle box in their house or local pub. Besides, fans are quite happy for all that lovely Murdoch lucre to fund tranfer fees for their club whilst simultaneously bemoaning how nasty some of unkie Rupert's newspaper's are.

    It's just not logical.

    People's inability to relate different arms of a massive corporation to each other is unfortunate, and precisely why Murdoch kicked the NOTW to the curb. But A) there are those of us who understand the relationship and do not consume any of the media products that conglomerate produces and B) someone can, if they choose, decide to loathe the Sun individually on the basis of its content output. Yes, The Sun and The Times have the same parent company, but they are chalk and cheese in terms of the type of journalistic space they inhabit.

    The Sun sucks no matter what way you look at it - and it should be okay to note that even if you happen to have a Sky Sports subscription.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    Ah the beauty of hypocritical football fans. Calling for a boycott for one arm of a media conglomerate (the Sun) whilst paying for and enjoying the benefits in terms of TV money to their favourite club and live matches in their house/pub provided by another arm of the same conglomerate (Sky Sports).

    In my part of the world SKYANYTHING is unheard of. Yet I watch plenty of European soccer. Neither do I contribute to FoxSport. Get your facts in order. You yourself, do you lean towards Murdoch's high brow stuff or the, er, lighter papers? I imagine the latter as your argument holds little water. This has been explained by a previous poster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,736 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Spread wrote: »
    In my part of the world SKYANYTHING is unheard of. Yet I watch plenty of European soccer. Neither do I contribute to FoxSport. Get your facts in order. You yourself, do you lean towards Murdoch's high brow stuff or the, er, lighter papers? I imagine the latter as your argument holds little water. This has been explained by a previous poster.

    Calm down.
    All the poster is saying in that many fans will talk about or partake in a boycott of the likes of The Sun while at the same time having a Sky Tv sub and also possibly the Sky Sports package as part of that sub.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Spread wrote: »
    After The Sun tried to spike QPR's promotion by leading with a large headlined back page re the (WRONG) result of the inquiry, less than a week before the outcome ....... QPR fans (and newsagents in W12) should join Liverpool fans in boycotting Murdoch's rag.
    QPR fans should be more worried about the clowns running the club tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭invinciblePRSTV


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    People's inability to relate different arms of a massive corporation to each other is unfortunate, and precisely why Murdoch kicked the NOTW to the curb.

    Inability to relate? what a silly thing to say. The Sun, like the NOTW, Sky and the Times are all under the control of the same board of directors, push the same ideological line, are cross pollinated with staff moving between the titles and answer to the same overall owner. You can try and delineate between the various Murdoch mouthpieces all you like but It's not logical, they are all cogs in the same machine.
    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    But A) there are those of us who understand the relationship and do not consume any of the media products that conglomerate produces and B) someone can, if they choose, decide to loathe the Sun individually on the basis of its content output.

    I'm not doubting people's individual choices and how they arrive at them, I'm saying that people who moan about the Sun but who still have a Sky sub and who are no doubt delighted when the fat cheque from sky arrives at their club each summer to splurge on players and wages are displaying hypocritical tendencies.
    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Yes, The Sun and The Times have the same parent company, but they are chalk and cheese in terms of the type of journalistic space they inhabit.

    Both papers push a right of centre editorial line enforced by their proprieter. The "journalistic space" both occupy is predetermined by the the ideological leanings of the Murdoch clan.
    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    The Sun sucks no matter what way you look at it - and it should be okay to note that even if you happen to have a Sky Sports subscription.

    The Sun is just another tabloid, promoting a boycott of it whilst paying a Sky sub is pretty self defeating tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭invinciblePRSTV


    Spread wrote: »
    In my part of the world SKYANYTHING is unheard of. Yet I watch plenty of European soccer. Neither do I contribute to FoxSport.

    You want a medal for that or something?
    Spread wrote: »
    Get your facts in order.

    Tell me where I'm factually inaccurate and I'll rectify them.
    Spread wrote: »
    You yourself, do you lean towards Murdoch's high brow stuff or the, er, lighter papers? I imagine the latter as your argument holds little water. This has been explained by a previous poster.

    Lol look at you getting all upset and throwing out the insult because you don't like my posts.

    Jog on if you've nothing of substance to add which clearly, as demonstrated by your post, you've nothing to add beyond bloviating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    I don't have a problem with the newspaper. It's a bit of light reading and I know not to take things I read in it as gospel. FFS some people don't want to be reading about Italian contagion or a selective default rating on Greece during their lunch break.

    It annoys me when people think they're better than others because they read The Irish Times or similar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭invinciblePRSTV


    Paully D wrote: »

    It annoys me when people think they're better than others because they read The Irish Times or similar.

    Well said Paully D, chaps like Spread like to display snobbish tendencies by denigrating people on what paper (he assumes) they read. Amusingly and ironically, his posts on this thread, full of hyperbole and indignation, are probably the most tabloid-esque in appearance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Well isn't that part of the problem though, they own so many papers which is one thing, but they are such an all encompassing company when it comes to football it's hard not to come in contact with them in some way, a big reason why people are opposing the full takeover of Sky?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    Well said Paully D, chaps like Spread like to display snobbish tendencies by denigrating people on what paper (he assumes) they read. Amusingly and ironically, his posts on this thread, full of hyperbole and indignation, are probably the most tabloid-esque in appearance.

    Oh dear! A Sun reader with a chip on his/her shoulder. And manufactured indignation ......... definitely high brow. Yo dude!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    Spread wrote: »
    After The Sun tried to spike QPR's promotion by leading with a large headlined back page re the (WRONG) result of the inquiry, less than a week before the outcome ....... QPR fans (and newsagents in W12) should join Liverpool fans in boycotting Murdoch's rag.

    Thanks to all QPR and football fans everywhere that took part in the virtual group hug. The Curse of the Hoops is beginning to have a grave effect on The Dirty Digger. As The Wicked Witch Of Wapping takes a belated shower and Les Hinton exits stage left a la Wall Street JournalShuffle.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Murdoch only owns 39% of Sky anyhow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,983 ✭✭✭✭NukaCola


    Ah the beauty of hypocritical football fans.
    Inability to relate? what a silly thing to say.
    You want a medal for that or something?
    Jog on, you've nothing to add beyond bloviating.
    Spread like to display snobbish tendencies by denigrating people on what paper (he assumes) they read. Amusingly and ironically, his posts on this thread, full of hyperbole and indignation, are probably the most tabloid-esque in appearance.

    You dont like to condescend much do you?
    Off the high horse....good lad..........bet you buy it for the page three ya?
    Classy! :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭TaosHum


    Considering the downturn in newspaper sales over the past 10 years, it wont be too long until its history anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭invinciblePRSTV


    Spread wrote: »
    Oh dear! A Sun reader with a chip on his/her shoulder. And manufactured indignation ......... definitely high brow. Yo dude!biggrin.gif
    NukaCola wrote: »
    You dont like to condescend much do you?
    Off the high horse....good lad..........bet you buy it for the page three ya?
    Classy! :pac:

    More a Guardian/FT man myself but each to their own. Only simpletons and snobs get uppity about what papers people read.

    Edit btw Spread you said I'm factually inaccurate in post 10, I've asked you once already to point where i got my facts wrong so i can rectify it. So one more time, where in my posts have i gone astray?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    Ah the beauty of hypocritical football fans. Calling for a boycott for one arm of a media conglomerate (the Sun) whilst paying for and enjoying the benefits in terms of TV money to their favourite club and live matches in their house/pub provided by another arm of the same conglomerate (Sky Sports).

    I assume you are alluding to me. If so, my answer is underlined below.
    Spread wrote: »
    In my part of the world SKYANYTHING is unheard of. Yet I watch plenty of European soccer. Neither do I contribute to FoxSport. Get your facts in order. You yourself, do you lean towards Murdoch's high brow stuff or the, er, lighter papers? I imagine the latter as your argument holds little water. This has been explained by a previous poster.
    Well said Paully D, chaps like Spread like to display snobbish tendencies by denigrating people on what paper (he assumes) they read. Amusingly and ironically, his posts on this thread, full of hyperbole and indignation, are probably the most tabloid-esque in appearance.

    Whatever :)
    More a Guardian/FT man myself but each to their own. Only simpletons and snobs get uppity about what papers people read.

    Edit btw Spread you said I'm factually inaccurate in post 10, I've asked you once already to point where i got my facts wrong so i can rectify it. So one more time, where in my posts have i gone astray?

    The Grauniad and FT. Pink in the morning and confused at night, eh?

    And finally, in the past three months I've watched quite a lot of football out of Britain. No SKY or Fox payments and I don't buy any of his papers. Didn't realise that football was way up in the agenda at Hay-on-Wye. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭invinciblePRSTV


    Spread wrote: »
    I assume you are alluding to me. If so, my answer is underlined below.





    Whatever :)



    The Grauniad and FT. Pink in the morning and confused at night, eh?

    And finally, in the past three months I've watched quite a lot of football out of Britain. No SKY or Fox payments and I don't buy any of his papers. Didn't realise that football was way up in the agenda at Hay-on-Wye. :)

    One more time and minus any snotty comments - where was i factually inaccurate spread?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    Spread wrote: »
    It is a rag and should have it's licence as a newspaper revoked

    no such things exists


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭x in the city


    Spread wrote: »
    After The Sun tried to spike QPR's promotion by leading with a large headlined back page re the (WRONG) result of the inquiry, less than a week before the outcome ....... QPR fans (and newsagents in W12) should join Liverpool fans in boycotting Murdoch's rag.

    only idiots read any brit tabloid like that.

    the guardian is one of the few decent reads nowadays

    murdoch and the hacking shoite, yawnnnnnnnnnnnnn


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    One more time and minus any snotty comments - where was i factually inaccurate spread?
    :confused:

    If you cannot see the answer, well! And if you have an inferiority complex then, well, as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    Helix wrote: »
    no such things exists

    I wonder why it says "Licensed by the Post Office". on the back bottom line?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    only idiots read any brit tabloid like that.

    the guardian is one of the few decent reads nowadays

    murdoch and the hacking shoite, yawnnnnnnnnnnnnn

    There must be an awful lot of idiots

    Once you get over the wimmins agenda! Personally am not a fan of The Muffia

    Considering that you find the whole hacking episode boring ...... perhaps you could contact Alan Rushbridger

    For serious sports writing they should rope in Julie Burchill. At least she'd introduce some competitivness :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭x in the city


    dont read junk papers or watch junk celb tv.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    How do you know it's a junk paper ....... if you never read it? You shouldn't jump to conclusions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭invinciblePRSTV


    Spread wrote: »
    :confused:

    If you cannot see the answer, well! And if you have an inferiority complex then, well, as well.

    Answer to what? you said I got my facts wrong and I'm asking you to point out where, and despite I repeatedly asking where you think I'm wrong, you've failed to do, instead you just ramble on with ad hominem.

    Seems to me you're just talking sh*t for the sake of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    Spread wrote: »
    After The Sun tried to spike QPR's promotion by leading with a large headlined back page re the (WRONG) result of the inquiry, less than a week before the outcome ....... QPR fans (and newsagents in W12) should join Liverpool fans in boycotting Murdoch's rag.
    Ah the beauty of hypocritical football fans. Calling for a boycott for one arm of a media conglomerate (the Sun) whilst paying for and enjoying the benefits in terms of TV money to their favourite club and live matches in their house/pub provided by another arm of the same conglomerate (Sky Sports).

    As I told you I don't contribute to any of Sky's productions. Or Mudoch's AFAIK. And I watch plenty of British football here. Now I'm sure that this is total MEH to anyone else so if you want the last word ...... go ahead! Sure 'twill be good for your self confidence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    Celebrations in W12 as Taarabt remains at Loftus Rd until Christmas. :)

    N0673771311420961606A.jpgAdel Taarabt


    Taarabt to remain at Loftus Road

    24 Jul 2011




    QPR majority shareholders Bernie Ecclestone and Flavio Briatore have confirmed that captain Adel Taarabt will not leave the club during the summer transfer window.
    The 22-year-old playmaker was a key figure in the west Londoners' npower Championship triumph last season and picked up the Football League Player of the Year award for his performances. Taarabt's stock rose markedly as a consequence and speculation had linked him with a host of elite European clubs throughout the summer.
    Paris St Germain were thought to be close to completing a deal but the R's have now confirmed that Taarabt will be staying with the club beyond the end of the current transfer window. A club statement released on behalf of Ecclestone and Briatore: "We are pleased to confirm that Adel Taarabt will be staying at QPR this summer."
    The statement continued: "Despite receiving a substantial bid for our Moroccan international, we rebuffed all approaches and indeed, we are keen to build for the future in the Barclays Premier League, and not sell one of our prized assets.
    "Should we have decided to sell Taarabt this summer, we made it clear to Neil Warnock that we would reinvest funds into the squad.
    "Taarabt is fully committed to the Club and is looking forward to proving his undoubted star quality for QPR in the Barclays Premier League.
    "Our decision not to sell him only serves to reiterate the ambition and commitment we have both shown to QPR since we arrived here.
    "We saved the club when it was close to relegation from the Championship and just one week from liquidation. At this time, Flavio Briatore outlined a four-year plan to reach the Premier League, which was achieved.
    "We have always owned approximately 70 per cent of the shareholding at the club and have been the major benefactors since our arrival.
    "We have backed Neil Warnock in bringing in his two top targets, Jay Bothroyd and Kieron Dyer, and we are working hard to try and pursue a couple of other targets the coach has identified."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭invinciblePRSTV


    Spread wrote: »
    As I told you I don't contribute to any of Sky's productions. Or Mudoch's AFAIK. And I watch plenty of British football here. Now I'm sure that this is total MEH to anyone else so if you want the last word ...... go ahead! Sure 'twill be good for your self confidence.

    Lol thats it! that's the facts I got wrong...oh mercy..... you need to relax your precious self and realise it's not all about you.

    Even a young child with severe learning difficulties would not have made the assumption you made, clearly my posts were general in their nature.

    Even sadder is instead of realising this and admitting your mistake you spend your time having a little cry and whinge with your ad hominem! lol:pac:


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