Few grant questions

Lmao_Man

When's the closing date for applying for a grant ?

And is it possible to fill in the form online (at home) and print out the receipt or whatever at the end somewhere else ? (printer doesn't work at home)

Thanks

Annasopra

You can apply online at www.studentfinance.ie

Lmao_Man

Yeah I know

Still unsure about my questions though.

Annasopra

Lmao_Man wrote: »

When's the closing date for applying for a grant ?

And is it possible to fill in the form online (at home) and print out the receipt or whatever at the end somewhere else ? (printer doesn't work at home)

Thanks

31st August but this was extended last year and tends to be very flexible

Not sure - maybe try printing in a library or internet cafe

RoyalMarine

the application's will be taken till the end of august. most vec's however will take them after, but honestly, get yours in early so you are higher in the queue to be processed.

lonm5

hi

what is the rates for the full grant? i always thought it was like 6,00 euro but that seems to be the special rate?

Annasopra

lonm5 wrote: »

hi

what is the rates for the full grant? i always thought it was like 6,00 euro but that seems to be the special rate?

3120

Rates are on page 39

http://www.studentfinance.ie/downloads/Student%20Grant%20Scheme%202011.pdf

Perplexed22

Lmao_Man wrote: »

When's the closing date for applying for a grant ?

And is it possible to fill in the form online (at home) and print out the receipt or whatever at the end somewhere else ? (printer doesn't work at home)

Thanks

You'll get an email from the online system with a checklist and declaration form. You can print it off any time and place that suits you.

NufcNavan

Can someone explain to me what are the difference between adjacent and non-adjacent rates? Thanks.

Annasopra

NufcNavan wrote: »

Can someone explain to me what are the difference between adjacent and non-adjacent rates? Thanks.

The link I gave above gives you that

NufcNavan

mango salsa wrote: »

The link I gave above gives you that

What page?

Paul Tergat

Page 27:


the adjacent rates of maintenance grant shall be payable in the case of
students whose normal residence is 45 km or less from the approved
institution which he or she is attending;
(b) the non-adjacent rate of maintenance grant shall be payable in all
other cases.



ah ****e, this has just made me realise something....

im 7 years here now having done my undergrad from 04-08. that means i will be put on the non-adjacent even though im from England right?

Annasopra

p_larkin99 wrote: »

Page 27:


the adjacent rates of maintenance grant shall be payable in the case of
students whose normal residence is 45 km or less from the approved
institution which he or she is attending;
(b) the non-adjacent rate of maintenance grant shall be payable in all
other cases.



ah ****e, this has just made me realise something....

im 7 years here now having done my undergrad from 04-08. that means i will be put on the non-adjacent even though im from England right?

What? The adjacent/Non adjacent rate are decided on the distance of 45km - nothing else (I have no idea how they calculate the 45km)

Paul Tergat

mango salsa wrote: »

What? The adjacent/Non adjacent rate are decided on the distance of 45km - nothing else (I have no idea how they calculate the 45km)

For the last 7 years ive lived in Dublin, therefore I am resident here and so fall under adjacent right? It means I only get the 2k and not 6k towards my fees - or have I got this wrong?

B1977

p_larkin99 wrote: »

For the last 7 years ive lived in Dublin, therefore I am resident here and so fall under adjacent right? It means I only get the 2k and not 6k towards my fees - or have I got this wrong?

The Grant is means tested on your income for 2010.
you need to fill in the form and send off.
you need to be 45km or more from the college.
special rate is dependant on your circumstances

Annasopra

p_larkin99 wrote: »

For the last 7 years ive lived in Dublin, therefore I am resident here and so fall under adjacent right? It means I only get the 2k and not 6k towards my fees - or have I got this wrong?

If you live under 45km you get the adjacent
If you live over 45kn you get the non adjacent

There is a difference in the grant between the maintenance part of the grant and the fee part - The maintenance part is affected by the adjacent/non adjacent thing, the fee part is not

If you get the special rate at the adjacent rate you get 2445 plus fees

Paul Tergat

B1977 wrote: »

The Grant is means tested on your income for 2010.
you need to fill in the form and send off.
you need to be 45km or more from the college.
special rate is dependant on your circumstances

mango salsa wrote: »

If you live under 45km you get the adjacent
If you live over 45kn you get the non adjacent

There is a difference in the grant between the maintenance part of the grant and the fee part - The maintenance part is affected by the adjacent/non adjacent thing, the fee part is not

If you get the special rate at the adjacent rate you get 2445 plus fees

Well **** me im clearly clueless.

So just to let ya know my circumstances, finished my 4 year degree in 08 having got a grant for each year. Going to do postgrad now so its been 3 years. I will fall under adjacent so get 2445 and then as I am unemployed the last year and mature independent I am likely to get a certain amount in fees taken care off ALSO?

Perplexed22

mango salsa wrote: »

What? The adjacent/Non adjacent rate are decided on the distance of 45km - nothing else (I have no idea how they calculate the 45km)

It's the distance of the most direct road route from the student's home to the college (or separate campus). How exactly it'll be measured I'm not too sure (but it seems to be a declaration by the student on renewal forms)

Annasopra

p_larkin99 wrote: »

Well **** me im clearly clueless.

So just to let ya know my circumstances, finished my 4 year degree in 08 having got a grant for each year. Going to do postgrad now so its been 3 years. I will fall under adjacent so get 2445 and then as I am unemployed the last year and mature independent I am likely to get a certain amount in fees taken care off ALSO?

Yes - they pay upto 6270 fees

Paul Tergat

mango salsa wrote: »

Yes - they pay upto 6270 fees

how i didnt know this is beyond me. i was under the impression that it would just be a maintenance grant and then i need pay the full fees myself. cant see any reason that i would be refused the grant then so hopefully can get both. do they also cover the student levy and admin charge that you pay at the beginning of the year on top of the above?

Annasopra

p_larkin99 wrote: »

how i didnt know this is beyond me. i was under the impression that it would just be a maintenance grant and then i need pay the full fees myself. cant see any reason that i would be refused the grant then so hopefully can get both. do they also cover the student levy and admin charge that you pay at the beginning of the year on top of the above?

Postgrad fees are structured differently - some include the levy - some don't - so for example UCD have a flat charge that includes the Levy but DIT split it out - not really no is the answer - they pay fees upto 6270

Paul Tergat

mango salsa wrote: »

Postgrad fees are structured differently - some include the levy - some don't - so for example UCD have a flat charge that includes the Levy but DIT split it out - not really no is the answer - they pay fees upto 6270

Ah, so the 12.5k fees that my masters in UCD costs will include the 2k levy? You know if this includes the circa 200 quid admin fee too?

Thanks for all your help by the way mate! Much better than the people at the CoCo's who just fob you off

Annasopra

p_larkin99 wrote: »

Ah, so the 12.5k fees that my masters in UCD costs will include the 2k levy? You know if this includes the circa 200 quid admin fee too?

Thanks for all your help by the way mate! Much better than the people at the CoCo's who just fob you off

yes the 12.5k is all inclusive apart from the €200 euro student levy which you pay yourself.

I should probably get a job in this area

Paul Tergat

mango salsa wrote: »

yes the 12.5k is all inclusive apart from the €200 euro student levy which you pay yourself.

I should probably get a job in this area

Thanks a mill, hopefully then by the time I get fees and maintenance I may only owe about 3.5k left in fees.

I would they would hire for sure! I think it'd be well worth them employing someone to take care of internet queries.

lonm5

this whole grant thing is very complicated....

do they usually take permanent change of the reckonable income into account? As of now, im entitled to a full grant with my mams income but her P60 from last december shows i dont even qualify for one! Massive drop in salary!!

Annasopra

lonm5 wrote: »

this whole grant thing is very complicated....

do they usually take permanent change of the reckonable income into account? As of now, im entitled to a full grant with my mams income but her P60 from last december shows i dont even qualify for one! Massive drop in salary!!

Yes they do - fill in the relevant section

Skyrim

Getting my grant reviewed, can't get U.L to stamp it to confirm i'm doing a full time course until september, the problem is the form needs to be back to my VEC by mid august. Did this happen to anybody else?

forfcksake

just wondering does anyone know where i can find out the details of the top up grant . . like what the cut off amount is? and if you have to have certain qualifications for it? cheers!

saa

lonm5 wrote: »

hi

what is the rates for the full grant? i always thought it was like 6,00 euro but that seems to be the special rate?

6 euro? things are bad indeed. :pac:

saa

forfcksake wrote: »

just wondering does anyone know where i can find out the details of the top up grant . . like what the cut off amount is? and if you have to have certain qualifications for it? cheers!

If you look it up there is a chart with the grant amounts, cut off points and number of siblings if you are under 23.

So if you have a lot of siblings you're in luck, or your parents have a very low income you've got a good chance.

Fellow students I know with middle income parents and one or two siblings are usually the ones I have met who havent got a grant.

Annasopra

forfcksake wrote: »

just wondering does anyone know where i can find out the details of the top up grant . . like what the cut off amount is? and if you have to have certain qualifications for it? cheers!

If you earn less than 22, 703 and on some form of social welfare from the list below then you are eligible

http://www.studentfinance.ie/downloads/Student%20Grant%20Scheme%202011.pdf

Social Assistance Payments
1. Blind Pension
2. Carer’s Allowance
3. One Parent Family Payment
4. Deserted Wife’s Allowance
5. Disability Allowance
6. Farm Assist
7. Jobseeker’s Allowance (where held for 391 days or more)*
8. State Pension (Non-Contributory)
9. Guardian’s Payment (Non-Contributory)
10. Pre-retirement allowance
11. Widow’s, Widower’s or Surviving Civil Partners (Non-Contributory)
Pension
Social Insurance Payments
12. Carer’s Benefit
13. One Parent Family Payment
14. Deserted Wife’s Benefit
15. Invalidity pension
16. Incapacity Supplement
17. Occupational Injuries Death Benefit (Orphan’s pension)
18. Occupational Injuries Death Benefit (pension for a widow or widower)38 [305]
19. State Pension (Contributory)
20. Guardian’s Payment (Contributory)
21. Jobseeker’s Benefit (continuous for at least 12 months)*
22. Widow’s, Widower’s or Surviving Civil Partners (Contributory) Pension
23. State Pension (Transition)
Designated Programmes
24. Back to Education Allowance (Second Level and Third Level Options)
25. Back to Work Allowance (Employees)
26. Back to Work Enterprise Allowance
27. Community Employment Scheme
28. Rural Social Scheme
29. Tús Initiative
30. FÁS Training Programmes, including Apprenticeships
31. Part time job incentive scheme
*
32. Vocational Training Opportunities Scheme (VTOS)
Others
33. Family Income Supplement (FIS)
34. In receipt of payments under the FIT (Fastrack to IT) initiative equivalent
to a social welfare payment;
35. Participants on a training course approved by a Government Department,
State Agency or Area Partnership and who were in receipt of an eligible
payment prior to progressing to the programme;
36. Grant aided employees in Community Services Programmes (formerly
social economy enterprises);
37. In receipt of payments under the Senior Traveller Training Centre
programmes.