Advice for a fattie please

ohmfg

Hi all,
I have been lurking for a while and getting some great education and insight - thank you all.

I have finally taken the plunge and registered and this is my first post.

I have recently adopted an ex puppy farm breeding bitch CKC. She's a senior lady of maybe 8ish. She has been thoroughly health checked and is in reasonable health considering her history.
She is however, very overweight, in fact she is obese at 17kg.

She is on a diet - Burns High Oats - and is due back at Doggie Weight Watchers in a month. I hope she may have lost towards a kg.

My problem is, she's not eating at all.
The first few days she ate fine - Burns chicken and brown rice - she went off that and became very picky after about 3 days. I tried mixing it to a paste and adding smelly stuff like anchovies and sardines to encourage her appetite but she just halfheartedly licked at it.
When the High Oats food came I hoped she may have more interest but no luck. I have no idea what she may have been fed before she came to us and no way of finding out but I more than suspect it was neither healthy nor good but possibly tasty.
I suppose in a long winded way I'm looking for advice on how to make her healthy food taste good for her whilst at the same time being aware that I can't add very many calories.:cool:

Thanks in advance.

Toulouse

Dogs won't starve themselves although they can give you a very good impression that they will sometimes. Don't keep chopping and changing or adding things to make it taste better, you'll only create a picky dog and make a rod for your own back.

I presume you're feeding twice a day. Put down her food and after 20 mins take it up then that's it until next meal time. Again put down her second meal for 20 mins and then remove whatever is left after 20 mins.

It might take a couple of days but she'll get the idea.

toadfly

Well done on taking her in, poor pet

She was probably fed bakers or pedigree which are full of colours and flavours so it take a while for her to get used to proper dog food.

All you can do is persist, she is holding out for something tasty! Put food down if she doesn't eat in 15 minutes take it up an repeat at next feeding time. Don't leave it down all day. But be consistant and dont give in as she won't starve herself, she is just testing you!

Edit: snap Toulouse!

ohmfg

Thanks guys, I have been doing that - as well as trying to make it tasty to begin with, she's just being very persistent:D.
She is drinking fine and I have been adding some rescue remedy, just to help her along, so I guess I'll just have to try to stop being so worried.

Tranceypoo

It's a period of adjustment for her as well don't forget, let's face it she doubtless had a s**t life before she came to you and was highly likely living in a dark shed with little human contact, now she has people, a soft bed, different food, light, fresh air etc etc, a whole new world!! As the OP's have said, just persist with putting the food down and taking it up after 15/20 mins and give her time to settle in. Bless her heart, it doesn't bear thinking about those poor dogs used as breeding machines, good on you for adopting her.

ohmfg

Yes, she came from a farm near Dublin - I'm in Kildare - and she is the 2nd one I've had from there.
The first lady was in an awful state and was only with me for about a month before we had to pts.


Horrid people, they just use and use the poor animals and then literally throw them out when they have served their purpose:mad:

andreac

Well done for taking them in. Can i ask how you managed to get them from them?

falabo

I just LOVE reading stories of people adopting dogs that have been through hell ....

WELL DONE

annascott

Don't want to go off topic, but I have to ask, what is wrong with Pedigree? My little dog is 6 and also has 4 kilo to lose. I changed from Pedigree complete to Pedigree weight control as well as cutting down on portion sizes. Is Pedigree bad? I've never used Bakers because it is too cheap to be credible but I thought that Pedigree was a good named brand... I love my little companion dearly and would hate to think that I was feeding her something awful. Any advice gratefully received.

ohmfg

andreac wrote: »

Well done for taking them in. Can i ask how you managed to get them from them?

A friend of a friend who works in rescue, has a contact who works there.
They literally just dump them when they have come to the end of their useful life:mad:

toadfly

Hi Anna, pedigree is not good quality food, pretty much the doggy version of feeding mcdonalds to your kids every day. I'm on my phone so cBt post links but search this forum for posts about pedigree, loads if them here!

How much do you spend on food and how much does your dog eat?

ohmfg

annascott wrote: »

Don't want to go off topic, but I have to ask, what is wrong with Pedigree? My little dog is 6 and also has 4 kilo to lose. I changed from Pedigree complete to Pedigree weight control as well as cutting down on portion sizes. Is Pedigree bad? I've never used Bakers because it is too cheap to be credible but I thought that Pedigree was a good named brand... I love my little companion dearly and would hate to think that I was feeding her something awful. Any advice gratefully received.

Annascott, this may be a good place to start.
Lots of opinions and advice.

andreac

As Tillygirl said, Pedigree is a rubbish food, made up of terrible low quality ingredients with very little meat content and is full of artificial colours and flavours.
You should really consider changing to a good quality food that you can get in the pet shop or order online too.
Any dog food that can be purchased in the supermarket really isnt good at all.

What type of dog do you have and what would be your monthly budget for dog food?

tk123

I had to get weight off my guy when we found out he had a joint problem. I tried Burns first then as it was running out I decided to try high oats to see if it'd work a bit faster but it made him poo a LOT. We went back to normal Burns and the weight dropped off him. He's now on Luath from Land of Holistic Pets which is pretty similar to Burns and he's really thriving - they do another dry food called Robbies which is like a bag of dried rice, meat and vet and you add water to rehydrate it. I think you might have better luck with the Robbies because you add warm water they can smell it and also it's wet - which they seem to assume is tastier lol! I got him (Retriever) from 33kg to 27kg last year and he's filled out and grown a little this year (he's 2 this week) and is 28.5 kgs now.

Toulouse

I use Robbies too, you can get it online from Dog Training Ireland.

Although it's not cheap my girl loves it, and a little goes a long way. She lost weight on it, no more itchy skin and her coat is in great condition. She's also in much better form.

ohmfg

tk123 wrote: »

I had to get weight off my guy when we found out he had a joint problem. I tried Burns first then as it was running out I decided to try high oats to see if it'd work a bit faster but it made him poo a LOT. We went back to normal Burns and the weight dropped off him. He's now on Luath from Land of Holistic Pets which is pretty similar to Burns and he's really thriving - they do another dry food called Robbies which is like a bag of dried rice, meat and vet and you add water to rehydrate it. I think you might have better luck with the Robbies because you add warm water they can smell it and also it's wet - which they seem to assume is tastier lol! I got him (Retriever) from 33kg to 27kg last year and he's filled out and grown a little this year (he's 2 this week) and is 28.5 kgs now.

Thanks a lot tk123, I might try the Robbies later, sounds like she would love that.
I hope she doesn't have that reaction to the High Oats but as was mentioned up thread, I don't want to chop and change again.

annascott

I have just checked out a link to a dog food board which listed what meat and animal derivatives are. I feel sick and weak from shock. I will throw away the Pedigree stuff today. I give her a Pedigree Dentastix each morning and also Pedigree Smackos as treats. Are these bad too? If so, can any of you recommend a good tooth protection alternative to Dentastix?

Her main diet consists of a handful of Pedigree Complete Light in the morning and a sachet of Cesar with a handful of Pedigree Complete Light in the evening.
If I am cooking and have beef or chicken, then she would get this instead of the Cesar.

I have tried to give her tins of salmon and tuna which she absolutely loves, but it must be too rich for her and gives her a terrible tummy upset which can be very challenging to deal with if we are away from home /the shower due to her long hair.

Robbies seems to be a popular choice from a lot of you. I have never heard of it but will check it out.

toadfly

Dont throw it out!! You will need it to gradually change her over onto a new food. If you start with a new food without introducing it over a week/10 days you could cause an upset stomach.

What weight is she and we can give you a rough idea how much to feed her and what it will cost.

Toulouse

Whatever food you switch too make sure to switch it gradually to avoid giving her an upset tum. So mix alot of the old food with a bit of the new and increase the amount of new food at each meal until she's completely switched over.

Luaths is by the same makers as Robbies and is a more afforable option. http://www.landofholisticpets.ie/ I have a dog in foster at the moment and he's thriving on it. I saw him the other day for the first time in 3 months and the change is notable.

ohmfg

I have just checked out the Land of Holistic pets and see that George Burns is mentioned, is that the same Burns as in Burns Dog Food?
Is the holistic an offshoot of Burns?

toadfly

ohmfg wrote: »

I have just checked out the Land of Holistic pets and see that George Burns is mentioned, is that the same Burns as in Burns Dog Food?
Is the holistic an offshoot of Burns?

2 brothers owned Burns, fell out & one brother now has Luath's.

ohmfg

TillyGirl wrote: »

2 brothers owned Burns, fell out & one brother now has Luath's.

Thanks for that.

boomerang

I wouldn't be worried too much about over-pooping on the Burns High Oats - it is deliberately high-fibre (and quite low meat content) to help the dog feel full without too many calories.

Ditto here on the Robbies - both my girls lost a little weight on it and have never been better. They have a new salmon variety which has spearmint in it and it smells gorgeous! You can get it in Dog Training Ireland or order it online from the Mobile Pet Shop, who are based in Cork. If I buy two 10kg bags from the Mobile Pet Shop I get free shipping and Margaret is always adding in little treats and gifts to the order. If you email DTI, Mobile Pet Shop or even George himself at Land of Holistic Pets, they will send you out some free samples.

Remember with the Robbies that 10kg makes 20kg of food so actually I think it's very well priced against Luath, Burns, James Wellbeloved, Arden Grange and other good brands.

boomerang

annascott wrote: »

can any of you recommend a good tooth protection alternative to Dentastix?

I use a combination of Plaque Off, Virbac enzymatic toothpaste and they get a raw meaty bone from the butcher every two weeks or so. (I would give them bones more often but one of them has kidney issues so I have to watch her phosphorous intake.) The Plaque Off is brilliant for preventing plaque formation and it softens up tartar so it's more easily removed. You'll get Plaque Off in most pet shops and also in some vets.

Raw meaty bones are just about the best thing you can give your dog to keep their teeth clean, and they cost nothing! Just ask your local friendly butcher. Steer clear of large beef bones as they are so hard they can break the teeth. The bone should be big enough that your dog can't swallow it. I've started buying lamb shanks for my two and the size is perfect and they're not too hard. I let them gnaw on them til they have picked off all the meat and then I throw the bones away. Depending on the size of your dog you could also consider chicken thighs. Just swap out their usual meal for the bone so they don't double up on calories.

Aside from the teeth-cleaning benefits, dogs LOVE to gnaw on bones, they find it very relaxing and it keeps them occupied.

ohmfg

boomerang wrote: »

I wouldn't be worried too much about over-pooping on the Burns High Oats - it is deliberately high-fibre (and quite low meat content) to help the dog feel full without too many calories.

Ditto here on the Robbies - both my girls lost a little weight on it and have never been better. They have a new salmon variety which has spearmint in it and it smells gorgeous! You can get it in Dog Training Ireland or order it online from the Mobile Pet Shop, who are based in Cork. If I buy two 10kg bags from the Mobile Pet Shop I get free shipping and Margaret is always adding in little treats and gifts to the order. If you email DTI, Mobile Pet Shop or even George himself at Land of Holistic Pets, they will send you out some free samples.

Remember with the Robbies that 10kg makes 20kg of food so actually I think it's very well priced against Luath, Burns, James Wellbeloved, Arden Grange and other good brands.

Thanks, yes, the girl I spoke to in Burns did say that the food was formulated to make the dogs feel fuller for longer. I did not equate that with more poo but it's no biggie. Just more to scoop.
Thanks for the heads up on online ordering for Robbies, I really think that might be the food for Daisy in the future.

the_syco

tk123 wrote: »

I had to get weight off my guy when we found out he had a joint problem.

Ask your vet if Sashas Blend (http://www.sashasblend.com) would be of any use to your doggie? Use if on top of my westies food, and it allows her to be a lot less stiff.

annascott

After my shocking realisation today that I am not doing my little dog any favours by feeding her Pedigree Complete, I thought I would switch to Robbies as it seemed to be such a popular choice. Unfortunately, it is not available where I live and it isn't practical for me to make a monthly 6 hour round trip to get it. So, must choose something else. About to leave office now and go shopping. Can anyone recommend something else which is good for her, will help her weight problem and isn't full of chemicals or scary stuff?

toadfly

You could try Burns Anna, several flavours available I usually get salmon or chicken with brown rice. I also feed a tin of sardines once a week between three dogs.

cocker5

annascott wrote: »

After my shocking realisation today that I am not doing my little dog any favours by feeding her Pedigree Complete, I thought I would switch to Robbies as it seemed to be such a popular choice. Unfortunately, it is not available where I live and it isn't practical for me to make a monthly 6 hour round trip to get it. So, must choose something else. About to leave office now and go shopping. Can anyone recommend something else which is good for her, will help her weight problem and isn't full of chemicals or scary stuff?

try burns from zoolpus... they deliver to your house...

or any brand on zooplus...

http://www.zooplus.ie/shop/dogs/dry_dog_food/burns

annascott

Yes, have just found a stockist near me who do Burns. Will go there now. Thank you so much to everyone who has advised me here today. I am absolutely horrified to think that I trusted Pedigree. Although, while my little friend is overweight, she is extemely bright eyed and glossy, so I don't think that any lasting damage has been done.

paultf

Just wondering about Robbie's dog food. Some of the posts on this thread have given the food good comments.

I have my dogs on Burns - they like it but I am wondering should I change it to Robbie's. Burns is a very plain food, whereas Robbie's has more ingredients that might make the food more interesting. Also its better value than Burns.

Funnily enough when I google Land Of Holistics/Robbie's I don't get back much information. In one way this is a good thing i.e. no bad comments, but in another way where are all the good reviews?

I am wondering should I change food or is it best left as is? What do you think?

tk123

paultf wrote: »

Just wondering about Robbie's dog food. Some of the posts on this thread have given the food good comments.

I have my dogs on Burns - they like it but I am wondering should I change it to Robbie's. Burns is a very plain food, whereas Robbie's has more ingredients that might make the food more interesting. Also its better value than Burns.

Funnily enough when I google Land Of Holistics/Robbie's I don't get back much information. In one way this is a good thing i.e. no bad comments, but in another way where are all the good reviews?

I am wondering should I change food or is it best left as is? What do you think?

TBH I only changed because he was getting Robbies/Luath at day care and Burns at home and chopping and changing between the two wasn't agreeing with him. It made a huge difference to his coat - really really shiny and thicker - I'd tried salmon oil and sprays when he was on Burns but his coat was always really dull. Also the poos were much better. Then last time I got a bag of Luath they had no chicken flavor left so I got the lamb and his poos are better than ever so I'll stick to lamb from now on! I give him Luath most days and Robbies as a treat at the weekend or after his hydro He LOVES the Robbies!! If eg I make it up before we go for a walk he charges in the door we get back and and sits at the counter waiting for it lol!!

annascott

Has anyone got any information on Royal Canin? I was going to get Burns but there wasn't a light version so decided on RC light instead but will change if anyone knows anything negative about it...

tk123

annascott wrote: »

Has anyone got any information on Royal Canin? I was going to get Burns but there wasn't a light version so decided on RC light instead but will change if anyone knows anything negative about it...

Burns is already light because it has a low percentage of protein. I wouldn't rate royal canin too highly - my guy was hyper on it and always getting the runs! If you look at the ingrediants it contains lots of fillers - I prefer to have a list of simple ingrediants and I know what they all are! You can buy burns on zooplus.ie/zooplus.co.uk (compare the two sites as one is usually cheaper that the other) or there may be a vet near you who stocks it?

boomerang

annascott wrote: »

After my shocking realisation today that I am not doing my little dog any favours by feeding her Pedigree Complete, I thought I would switch to Robbies as it seemed to be such a popular choice. Unfortunately, it is not available where I live and it isn't practical for me to make a monthly 6 hour round trip to get it.

Just order it online from the Mobile Pet Shop? That's what I do.

boomerang

paultf wrote: »

Just wondering about Robbie's dog food. Some of the posts on this thread have given the food good comments.

It's a niche product from a small company, most people haven't heard of it. Really most people hear about it through word of mouth.

ohmfg

Just thought I'd let you know that Daisy ate her breakfast this morning:D

Yay, go Daisy.

She has held out for 2 1/2 days but this morning she gave in and gobbled up her High Oats. She must be well on her way to a 1kg weight loss this month:D

andreac

ohmfg wrote: »

Just thought I'd let you know that Daisy ate her breakfast this morning:D

Yay, go Daisy.

She has held out for 2 1/2 days but this morning she gave in and gobbled up her High Oats. She must be well on her way to a 1kg weight loss this month:D

Well done thats great, sometimes tough love is the only way to go.

My rottie hald out for 3 full days without eating a scrap of food as he was holding out for something tastier, my own fault really:o.
I could hear his belly rumbling and all and he wouldnt eat it, so after 3 days he gave in and just ate what he was given.

Toulouse

Yay! Well done for holding out

the_syco

On top of the beta food which my westie gets, we put a small bit of Royal Canin veterinary dog food on top to get her "interested" in the food. Yes, she's spoilt, but the veterinary dog food is not as heavy as ceasers, so she doesn't put on as much weight.

lorebringer

annascott wrote: »

Has anyone got any information on Royal Canin? I was going to get Burns but there wasn't a light version so decided on RC light instead but will change if anyone knows anything negative about it...

Royal Canin food is a good food, but I find it overpriced for what you get. Burns "High Oats" is designed for pudgy dogs and helps get ther wieght off them. Don't worry about buying the RC though, use it and once you finish the bag you can buy another food. Another good brand, that does a good light version, is James Wellbeloved (just so you know!).

Also, on the whole Pedigree situation - first off, good on you for switching - don't beat yourself up too much about it, you're on the right path now!

paultf

boomerang wrote: »

It's a niche product from a small company, most people haven't heard of it. Really most people hear about it through word of mouth.

As some you may have guessed from my previous posts I like checking out different dog foods to find the best one. I also like emailing food manufacturers for information. Anyways I emailed George Burns asking him could he give me good reasons for switching from Burns to Robbie's. A bit cheeky.

His response is below. I am not sure whether to change. Robbie's seems like a really good food. Some people say if your dog is happy on a food don't change. What I have to figure out is Robbie's a better food than Burns and worth the change. What do you think?

"Hello Paul,

You are asking me if you should change foods! I changed company does that not say enough?

Tooth tarter is usually caused by food stagnating in the gut and then backing up over the teeth and gums. As for your dogs eating Pop - read here - http://www.landofholisticpets.co.uk/dog_eating_poop.html

The advantages of Robbie's over all dried kibble .
1. Less processing means more of the nutrients available for your dog.
2. Less precessing means strengthening the digestive system ( Dogs starting on Robbie's struggle to digest the carrots - after a few weeks problem resolved)
3. Generally and far greater range of appropriate vegetables and herbs = means dog less likely to lack chlorophyll in the diet.
4. All swelling of food takes place in the bowl therefore no requirement to draw on body fluids to digest food. = Less likelihood for gastric torsion/bloat
5. Dogs are more satisfied with less food simply because moisture is included in the diet.
6. Thermal balance of the ingredients - Hot, cool, moist and dry - See here for fuller explanation http://www.landofholisticpets.co.uk/Holistic Nutrition for dogs - a Brief Explanation 2011.pdf
7. As above - balance of acid/ alkaline relationship
8. There are many more advantages but I prefer owners to point them out and express as you have already heard. Read between the lines - http://www.landofholisticpets.co.uk/Testimonial Sheelagh.pdf

Robbie's Holistic Cuisine is blended in our own premise in Kilmarnock, Scotland. We only make small amounts at a time - 200kg or 20 x 10kg bags. This ensures we get the blend correct
and consistent. Each ingredient is weighed out individually to ensure the proportions are correct every time. We used to have Robbie's made in the same plant that Burns was made but had nothing but problems with consistency and quality. Money was the determining factor to them!

Hope this helps

George Burns"

CookieMonster.x

Sorry to barge in on this topic but I was wondering about dog food. I posted a separate thread but I haven't gotten any replies yet.
My golden retriever is around 5 years old and is overweight. A few months ago, we switched him from Bakers etc to Burns High Oats. Now we have Hills Advanced Fitness (although it's the wrong food but it was opened before we could change it).
I was looking on the Hills website and there are 2 prescription weight loss foods. It says it is proven to lower body fat by 22%. What food is better - Burns or Hills?
I did do some research before we got Burns (Hills was bought by accident) and they were the nicest and most helpful and because it was a weight loss food we got that. I tried contacting Hills but all I get is an error page.

Thanks for any help.

paultf

I don't know much about Hills but I have mine on Burns - chicken and brown rice.

When I started the dogs on it the older one went from 14kg to 11kg. Burns dogs are reknowed for being slim. Anytime I have been in touch with Burns they always come up with this stat that a slim dog will live 2 years longer. Even one customer advisor told me she has a springer spaniel and she only feeds him 65g of Burns a day - and he even gets 3 hours exercise a day.

If you stick to the feeding guidelines i.e. 10g/Kg, cut the treats out and exercise, your dog will lose weight.

boomerang

I suppose one downside Paul is that Robbies isn't as widely available as Burns. You'll have to order it online, most likely.

That said, I've had my dogs on a range of good foods, including Burns, Arden Grange, Orijen and James Wellbeloved - and yet there was a marked jump in both their energy levels and body condition when I switched to Robbies.

Mary Strauss and other canine nutritionists advocate switching brands every now and then. So even if you don't go with Robbies, it's good to rotate foods rather than feeding the one brand of kibble all their lives. Mary Strauss has just written a good article on this, here:

http://www.dogaware.com/articles/dwswitching.html

paultf

boomerang wrote: »

I suppose one downside Paul is that Robbies isn't as widely available as Burns. You'll have to order it online, most likely.

I have been checking out Robbie's online. It seems to be a good dog food.

The only problem is the cost. I can get a 15kg bag of Burns for €45. A 10kg bag of Robbie's is €55. I have 3 cockers so the cost for the year:-

Burns: 8 bags x €45 = €360

Robbie's: 12 bags x €55 = €682

Huge difference! I suppose I could go for Luath (as it's cheaper: €55/15kg bag) but if I did that I might aswell stay with Burns! So I have come a full circle! At least though I found out some information about Land Of Holistic foods.

tk123

paultf wrote: »

boomerang wrote: »

I suppose one downside Paul is that Robbies isn't as widely available as Burns. You'll have to order it online, most likely.

I have been checking out Robbie's online. It seems to be a good dog food.

The only problem is the cost. I can get a 15kg bag of Burns for €45. A 10kg bag of Robbie's is €55. I have 3 cockers so the cost for the year:-

Burns: 8 bags x €45 = €360

Robbie's: 12 bags x €55 = €682

Huge difference! I suppose I could go for Luath (as it's cheaper: €55/15kg bag) but if I did that I might aswell stay with Burns! So I have come a full circle! At least though I found out some information about Land Of Holistic foods.

You feed less of the Robbies - 8 grams per kilo compared to 10/kg on Burns/Luath so i think (knackered and can't think so probably way off lol) it'd work out at 10 bags of Robbies per year but still more expensive! I was the same why bother changing from Burns - only really switched because he was getting an upset tummy from switching between the two. He has to be kept thin for his legs and there's just one of him lol so a 7.5 kg bag lasts about 5 weeks.

boomerang

paultf wrote: »

I have been checking out Robbie's online. It seems to be a good dog food.

The only problem is the cost. I can get a 15kg bag of Burns for €45. A 10kg bag of Robbie's is €55. I have 3 cockers so the cost for the year:-

Burns: 8 bags x €45 = €360

Robbie's: 12 bags x €55 = €682

Huge difference! I suppose I could go for Luath (as it's cheaper: €55/15kg bag) but if I did that I might aswell stay with Burns! So I have come a full circle! At least though I found out some information about Land Of Holistic foods.

You're not comparing like with like though, Paul. Bear in mind that 10kg of dry Robbies makes 20kg of food. Burns works out at €3 per kilo of food; rehydrated Robbies works out at €2.75 per kilo of food.

Robbies feeding guidelines: 8-10g per kg bodyweight.
Burns feeding guidelines: 10g per kg bodyweight.

So actually Robbies works out cheaper!

paultf

boomerang wrote: »

You're not comparing like with like though, Paul. Bear in mind that 10kg of dry Robbies makes 20kg of food. Burns works out at €3 per kilo of food; rehydrated Robbies works out at €2.75 per kilo of food.

Robbies feeding guidelines: 8-10g per kg bodyweight.
Burns feeding guidelines: 10g per kg bodyweight.

So actually Robbies works out cheaper!

boomerang, I haven't had any coffee yet today so I am struggling with the calculations!

Anyways, I know what what you are saying about soaking the food and doubling in size. Its just one of the emails I sent to George Burns I asked about feeding guidelines:-

"Hi Paul,

Every dog is different - as a starting point I suggest 10g of dry food per KG of body weight.
Older dogs require less, younger, very active dogs may require more.

George"

So regardless of the food doubling in size after soaking I would still need to measure out 10g/kg of dried Robbie's. Am I right in saying that?

So my dogs (3 cockers) get in total 340g/day.

Burns:
15kg/340g => 1 bag will last 44 days => 8 bags/year @ €45 = €360

Robbie's:
10kg/340g => 1 bag will last 29 days => 12 bags/year @ €55 = 660

So Burns works out at €3/kg. Robbie's €5.50/kg (dry) and €2.75/kg (wet).

But its 10g/kg of dry food that I measure out for each dog so it's €5.50/kg that applies not €2.75/kg.

That's how I calculate it! Now I am off to get some coffee!

EDIT: Also have you seen this link? It compares the cost per kg for Robbie's and Luath. Surely this compares dry food to dry food.

http://www.landofholisticpets.ie/Dog_feeding_costs.html

Robbie's €5.52/kg
Luath: €3.74/kg

boomerang

Hey Paul, I also need more coffee

But I think I missed the point that you were comparing dry Burns to dry Robbies, in which case, you're absolutely right, the Robbies is more expensive.