What year applies to re-registered car?

pat127

I was under the impression that if an import vehicle is re-registered here, it gets the year it was first registered in its home country, e.g. a UK car first registered in 2007 and imported in 2011 gets an '07 number here.

My problem is that a car I am considering buying, acknowledged to be an import, was given a '10 plate when registered here in late 2010, despite the fact that it was registered in the UK in early 2009. I've discovered the car's history despite the fact that Motorcheck is unaware of its UK origins.

My concern is partly that it's well over a year older than advertised but also that the manufacturer's 3-year warranty has only a few months left on it when it was indicated to me that there were over 2 years left.

A second unrelated question is whether a modern odometer, the electronic type can be clocked?


Many thanks,


Pat

colm_mcm

Walk away.

dgt

That has con or ringer written all over it

colm_c

If the vehicle had less than 6k km's on the clock when registered here, then they'd give it plate of the year it's being imported, and they'd have to pay VAT, because it's considered a new car.

rcdk1

colm_c wrote: »

If the vehicle had less than 6k km's on the clock when registered here, then they'd give it plate of the year it's being imported, and they'd have to pay VAT, because it's considered a new car.

Interesting. I'd still be inclined to walk if the seller isn't giving you the facts up front. Also it could cause hassle for you when you go to sell on.

As I've heard it, the mileage on modern cars is recorded in two or three different locations. Once the "clocker" knows these locations, it's a simple enough job to clock a car with a digital odometer using a laptop.

Guy:Incognito

pat127 wrote: »

A second unrelated question is whether a modern odometer, the electronic type can be clocked?

It's much easier to clock a car with a digital odometer because it can just be hooked up to the computer and set. No taking things apart.

OldmanMondeo

The UK runs their plate from August to August, so having a 2009 register car with a 10 plate means the car was registered between August 2009 and December 2009. Sounds like someone in the VRO office fecked up and put it down as a Aug - Dec 2010 first registering.

pat127

colm_c wrote: »

If the vehicle had less than 6k km's on the clock when registered here, then they'd give it plate of the year it's being imported, and they'd have to pay VAT, because it's considered a new car.

That's the case all right. Very low mileage.

Thanks all for your inputs. I agree that there'd be definite concerns at time of sell-on. Tracing the history was dead easy.

Nothing good about the deal. The price is at '10 levels, which might not be such a problem if you could be sure about the mileage but the reduced warranty is a non-starter as far as I'm concerned.

No place like boards.ie for good advice! Thanks again.

G Luxel

OldmanMondeo wrote: »

The UK runs their plate from August to August, so having a 2009 register car with a 10 plate means the car was registered between August 2009 and December 2009. Sounds like someone in the VRO office fecked up and put it down as a Aug - Dec 2010 first registering.

A two-digit age identifier, which changes twice a year, in March and September. The code is either the last two digits of the year itself if issued between March and August (e.g. "10" for registrations issued between 1 March and 31 August 2010), or else has 50 added to that value if issued between September and February the following year (e.g. "60" for registrations issued between 1 September 2010 and 28 February 2011);

mickdw

I wouldnt have anything to do with that car.

Gophur

G Luxel wrote: »

OldmanMondeo wrote: »

The UK runs their plate from August to August, so having a 2009 register car with a 10 plate means the car was registered between August 2009 and December 2009. Sounds like someone in the VRO office fecked up and put it down as a Aug - Dec 2010 first registering.

A two-digit age identifier, which changes twice a year, in March and September. The code is either the last two digits of the year itself if issued between March and August (e.g. "10" for registrations issued between 1 March and 31 August 2010), or else has 50 added to that value if issued between September and February the following year (e.g. "60" for registrations issued between 1 September 2010 and 28 February 2011);

Lads, at least get your info right if you're going to give advice.

A 2009 UK car cannot have a UK 10 registration. The registration 58 would cover the 6 months from Sept '08 to Feb'09

March '09 to Aug'09 would be a '09 plate and Sept'09 to Feb'10 would be a 59 plate.


Mar '10 to Aug '10 was the period for a '60 plate.

si_guru

colm_c wrote: »

If the vehicle had less than 6k km's on the clock when registered here, then they'd give it plate of the year it's being imported, and they'd have to pay VAT, because it's considered a new car.

This is very true.. my 2008 scooter, registered Jan 1st 2009 in the UK... has an 11KY plate in Ireland..

..and the revenue man has a few extra euro.

Atlantic Dawn

si_guru wrote: »

This is very true.. my 2008 scooter, registered Jan 1st 2009 in the UK... has an 11KY plate in Ireland..

..and the revenue man has a few extra euro.

But if anyone does a HPI check it will become clear that it's not an 11 bike and also the bike is uninsured as your insurance company will find out it's a 2008 bike should you ever need to make a claim on it.

-Chris-

pat127 wrote: »

I was under the impression that if an import vehicle is re-registered here, it gets the year it was first registered in its home country, e.g. a UK car first registered in 2007 and imported in 2011 gets an '07 number here.

My problem is that a car I am considering buying, acknowledged to be an import, was given a '10 plate when registered here in late 2010, despite the fact that it was registered in the UK in early 2009. I've discovered the car's history despite the fact that Motorcheck is unaware of its UK origins.

My concern is partly that it's well over a year older than advertised but also that the manufacturer's 3-year warranty has only a few months left on it when it was indicated to me that there were over 2 years left.

A second unrelated question is whether a modern odometer, the electronic type can be clocked?


Many thanks,


Pat

Do you know/can you find out what specific date it was first registered in the UK?

TestTransmission

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

also the bike is uninsured as your insurance company will find out it's a 2008 bike should you ever need to make a claim on it.

How exactly?

colm_c

TestTransmission wrote: »

How exactly?

I would also like to find out why it wouldn't be insured?

It's not like you're giving false information to your insurance company, maybe if you were to claim the value of the vehicle at '11 value rather than '08 value, then yeah, but otherwise I can't see any problem with it TBH.

Tea 1000

Gophur wrote: »

Lads, at least get your info right if you're going to give advice.

A 2009 UK car cannot have a UK 10 registration. The registration 58 would cover the 6 months from Sept '08 to Feb'09

March '09 to Aug'09 would be a '09 plate and Sept'09 to Feb'10 would be a 59 plate.


Mar '10 to Aug '10 was the period for a '60 plate.

This is incorrect also! March 2010 to end of August 2010 is a 10 plate, the 60 plate is from September 2010 to end of Feb this year.

pat127

-Chris- wrote: »

Do you know/can you find out what specific date it was first registered in the UK?

I think I can. May I ask the relevance of your question, Chris?

mickdw

I was aware of the 6 month/6k rule regarding an import being regarded as a new means of transport. I thought it was only from a taxation point of view. I didnt think they would actually stick a new reg on it. I thought that stuff stopped in about 1982.