Censorship of Films and Licensing Laws

Always number 1

I went to bring my 14 year old sister to see the movie Bridesmaids this evening and was told that she couldn't get in because she was under 16. I thought that because she was being accompanied by an adult (me) that it would be ok but the guy told me that 6 people have been arrested for bringing people under the age of 16 to it.
I was fairly hacked off but accepted it, until I got home and had a think about it. My 14 year old sister was deemed too young to go to a 16s rated film but only 2 weeks ago she was at a music concert at which had alcohol for sale.

Can anyone make any sense of the laws in this country???

starbelgrade

Kids are also allowed into pubs. That doesn't mean they can buy drink at the bar.

Seems sensible enough to me.

Chuck Stone

Many laws are ****ing stupid.

OutlawPete

Which cinema was this?? Just get the tickets on your own. Cineworld is your best bet if going again, as very rarely are their staff in the actually screens themselves and even if there was, they would say shag all.

Guy:Incognito

Always number 1 wrote: »

she couldn't get in because she was under 16. I thought that because she was being accompanied by an adult (me) that it would be ok???

16's means no one under 16 can go. 15a means anyone under 15 must be accompanied.

Tigger

I just watched bridesmaids it's ****e

LighterGuy

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

16's means no one under 16 can go. 15a means anyone under 15 must be accompanied.

in recent times pg-16 has been brought out over here. which is a good thing. Its on the parent to decide if its ok for the child to see. As it should be.

Simple fact age laws are stupid. I watched terminator 2 when i was 7. I watched nightmare on elm street when I was same age too. Both on VHS.
So this whole "sorry they are too young" is stupid. Because when it comes to dvds and blu-rays its the parents choice to allow their child to watch a movie or not. So should it be any different than in the cinema?

starbelgrade

Tigger wrote: »

I just watched bridesmaids it's ****e

How the fuck do you have time to watch any films when you've posted over 1 million posts?

Guy:Incognito

LighterGuy wrote: »

in recent times pg-16 has been brought out over here. which is a good thing. Its on the parent to decide if its ok for the child to see. As it should be.

Thats what 15a is for.

LighterGuy wrote: »

Simple fact age laws are stupid. I watched terminator 2 when i was 7. I watched nightmare on elm street when I was same age too. Both on VHS.
So this whole "sorry they are too young" is stupid. Because when it comes to dvds and lu-rays its the parents choice to allow their child to watch a movie or not. So should it be any different than in the cinema?

Thats the parents choice. Not much you can do about what people do in their own home. But in public is different. You cant stop people pouring vodka down their kids necks at home if the want too, that doesnt mean we should let parents bring 10 year olds to pubs and buy them pints.

LighterGuy

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Thats what 15a is for.

so?
A parent has a right to choose what is suitable for their kids and not suitable.
After all, just because a cinema refuses entry doesnt mean the parent isnt going to allow the kid to not watch it on dvd/blue ray. Obsiously they are going to let the watch it.

All this "age rating" is crap. Just an official law that no one pays any attention to.

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Thats the parents choise. Not much you can do about what people do in their own home. But in public is different. You cant stop people pouring vodka down their kids necks at home if the want too, that doesnt mean we should let parents bring 10 year olds to pubs and buy them pints.

the movie in question is bridesmaids! not reservoir dogs!

ejmaztec

Always number 1 wrote: »

I went to bring my 14 year old sister to see the movie Bridesmaids this evening and was told that she couldn't get in because she was under 16. I thought that because she was being accompanied by an adult (me) that it would be ok but the guy told me that 6 people have been arrested for bringing people under the age of 16 to it.
I was fairly hacked off but accepted it, until I got home and had a think about it. My 14 year old sister was deemed too young to go to a 16s rated film but only 2 weeks ago she was at a music concert at which had alcohol for sale.

Can anyone make any sense of the laws in this country???

Get your sister one of these for the next time

Guy:Incognito

LighterGuy wrote: »

so?
A parent has a right to choose what is suitable for their kids and not suitable.
.

Not in this case, no. If a parent wants to let their kids see something thats deemed innapropriate then they'll have to do it at home.

LighterGuy wrote: »

the movie in question is bridesmaids! not reservoir dogs!

I assume theres curseing and/or sexual stuff in it? They dont just decide to make perfectly child friendly films 16's just to annoy peiople.

OutlawPete

When I was nine, a cinema in Clones (Luxor) let me in to an 18s Cert film.

I seen boobies

In the film, wasn't a topless screening or anything.

LighterGuy

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Not in this case, no. If a parent wants to let their kids see somethign thats deemed innapropriate then they'll have to do it at home.

you're wrong.
everything in life is situational. Its about the context.

Lets take the movie total recall. It was on sky one tonight at 10pm. A very violent film. 18s cert for sure. No child should see that. But thats 18s

Who are you to say to any parent about other certs below 18? because other certs are non-violent films (obviously hence the lower cert) Who is anyone to say that a 14 year old teenager IS NOT allowed see a 16's movie? isnt it the parents choice? that they deem their child acceptable to view that movie? ... sure as you agree, they would watch it at home. So .. whats this movie cert law? .. all just show?

yes, its all just show.
and the parents should make the choice.

ejmaztec

OutlawPete wrote: »

When I was nine, a cinema in Clones (Luxor) let me in to an 18s Cert film.

I seen boobies

In the film, wasn't a topless screening or anything.

On the screen or in the back row?

Superbus

Why couldn't she lie?

Guy:Incognito

LighterGuy wrote: »

yes, its all just show.
and the parents should make the choice.

The can, at home.

and TV is censored too, stuff like that wouldnt be shown before 9 so kids dont see it (unless they have bad parents )

Sure why bother with an age of consent, why not just let parents decide when to start breeding their kids.

LighterGuy wrote: »

Who is anyone to say that a 14 year old teenager IS NOT allowed see a 16's movie?

Clearly the govenment or the censor or whoever else is, because they do.

You can show your kids what you want, just not in someone elses private business.

What if one parent deemed it appropriate to bring there 9 year old to a porn cinema? (in a country that has them) . Is that an appropriate place for a 9 year old?

LighterGuy

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

The can, at home.

and TV is censored too, stuff like that wouldnt be shown before 9 so kids dont see it (unless they have bad parents )

Sure why bother with an age of consent, why not just let parents decide when to start breeding their kids.

Simple fact is you have no right to tell people how to rasie their kids. And a big important factor of raising kids is choosing what to let them see. As I say 'tis all situational and in context. if we're talking a 6yo seeing an 18s movie? no way. We both agree. But if we're talking about a parent letting a 12yo see an 16s movie? their choice. You have no say.

& TV censorship is a joke.
Lets take Batman (1989) .. it was rated 16s. Just a PG movie now.
or what about this, the living daylights was on tv this afternoon. featured bond killing people and a girls ass in sexy lace underwear (a very sexy ass i add) ... so just because "TV" says its watershed, like movies, its ok right? .. we should follow.

LighterGuy

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

What if one parent deemed it appropriate to bring there 9 year old to a porn cinema? (in a country that has them) . Is that an appropriate place for a 9 year old?

this is seriously your counter-argument?
this is what I hate, people such as yourself, do not bring context, or life being situational INTO FACTOR!!!!!! :rolleyes:

a 9yo into a porn cinema. well way to use an extremist view to try to win an argument :rolleyes: .. take a long look at what you just said.

Guy:Incognito

LighterGuy wrote: »

this is seriously your counter-argument?
this is what I hate, people such as yourself, do not bring context, or life being situational INTO FACTOR!!!!!! :rolleyes:

a 9yo into a porn cinema. well way to use an extremist view to try to win an argument :rolleyes: .. take a long look at what you just said.

Your saying no censorship, then your putting limits like 6 year olds shouldnt see 18s movies. You seem to want no censorship as long as it suits what you want.
To use your aguement, who are you to say how a parent brigns up a child?

what makes your limit of a 12 year old going to a 16s being ok anymore valid than the censor deciding no one under 16 should go?

Logical Fallacy

Always number 1 wrote: »

I went to bring my 14 year old sister to see the movie Bridesmaids this evening and was told that she couldn't get in because she was under 16. I thought that because she was being accompanied by an adult (me) that it would be ok but the guy told me that 6 people have been arrested for bringing people under the age of 16 to it.
I was fairly hacked off but accepted it, until I got home and had a think about it. My 14 year old sister was deemed too young to go to a 16s rated film but only 2 weeks ago she was at a music concert at which had alcohol for sale.

Can anyone make any sense of the laws in this country???

She wouldn't have been able to buy alcohol though.

If it's rated 16 then the cinema needs to enforce that or get in the ****.

flutterflye

Sure she can just watch $luts and porn on mtv, watch the horrendous reality of life on the news, listen to Rhiana smelling sex and bruno mars having sex etc...
any time of the day.

The tv watershed is supposed to be 9pm, but in reality it is 8pm.

With an excessive amount of unsuitable content thrown at kids 24/7 from every angle, it is irrational to then dictate age limits on movies where parental consent is given.

jive

This used to happen me as a kid. My dad worked near the cinema so he would have to come up, buy my ticket and say he would be back cause he had to pick something up. He would never come back and they would say if he's not back in 10 minutes you're going to have to leave - never got thrown out so I think common sense kicked in for the most part and they liked to make it look like they 'tried'.

If you wanted to get her in you should have said she was 16 - 16 year olds don't have ID.

Mike 1972

Video/DVD/Blu Ray releases often have cuts to scenes/dialouge that the cinema release wouldnt have. Films tend to suffer even more cuts when they make it onto TV (even on channels which claim to show films "uncut") ITV are notorious for this. RTE to their credit tend to show something in its entirity or not show it at all.

flutterflye wrote: »

The tv watershed is supposed to be 9pm, but in reality it is 8pm..

The 9pm watershed only applies to UK channels. Contrary to popular misconception it doesnt apply in the Republic of Ireland but thats not to say Irish TV is not heavily censored