NCT needed for tax? Garage drive with no NCT?

Tea drinker

Hi guys
am returning from abroad, tax and NCT out, I can tax it straight away without NCT and sort the NCT later? By later I mean in a few days! Not looking to tempt fate with the gaurds/points etc.

Can a garageman drive it without NCT and tax? Need the front discs replaced I think, had judder in the pads last time I drove it. Think that would end up busting seals in the calipers?

Thanks a bunch for any info, surely ye hear this kind of question repeatedly

Tefral

You dont need to NCT your car for it to be taxed.. all you need is your insurance number.

It sounds like your disks are warped if there is a judder under braking.

-Corkie-

cronin_j wrote: »

You dont need to NCT your car for it to be taxed.. all you need is your insurance number.

It sounds like your disks are warped if there is a judder under braking.

Is that a new thing??. I always need a DOE cert for taxing commercials.

Bruthal

-Corkie- wrote: »

Is that a new thing??. I always need a DOE cert for taxing commercials.

When NCT tests first started, the car could only be taxed if it had a valid NCT. But This caused delays/reductions in cars being taxed, so it was done away with.

unkel

robbie7730 wrote: »

When NCT tests first started, the car could only be taxed if it had a valid NCT. But This caused delays/reductions in cars being taxed, so it was done away with.

It's a little bit more complex than that

A while after the NCT tests started, there was a big strike in the NCT. This meant cars didn't get NCTd, and without an NCT couldn't be taxed. Some civil servant (who deserves a medal - who is it?) said fcuk that, there's no motor tax revenue because of this NCT strike and promptly dropped the requirement that a car needed NCT in order to get taxed.

Bruthal

unkel wrote: »

It's a little bit more complex than that

A while after the NCT tests started, there was a big strike in the NCT. This meant cars didn't get NCTd, and without an NCT couldn't be taxed. Some civil servant (who deserves a medal - who is it?) said fcuk that, there's no motor tax revenue because of this NCT strike and promptly dropped the requirement that a car needed NCT in order to get taxed.

Is that what it was, it sounds familiar alright. It was all about the revenue being lost anyway.

Tea drinker

Thanks guys, I remember about needing to bring an NCT cert an insurance one time for tax.Then last time I just had to bring money and the non use declaration for the applicable period. So I wasn't sure if she could check the NCT from her PC or not.

Only thing that would be handy would be to get the brakes fixed before I get back, so can local mechanic pick it up and drive without tax or NCT? I suppose I should ask him, but I'd like to know what I'm asking him.

slimjimmc

Tea drinker wrote: »

Thanks guys, I remember about needing to bring an NCT cert an insurance one time for tax.Then last time I just had to bring money and the non use declaration for the applicable period. So I wasn't sure if she could check the NCT from her PC or not.

Only thing that would be handy would be to get the brakes fixed before I get back, so can local mechanic pick it up and drive without tax or NCT? I suppose I should ask him, but I'd like to know what I'm asking him.

I think the mechanic would need to display his motor trade plate (if he even has one) if he wants to abide by the law.

_Conrad_

cronin_j wrote: »

.. all you need is your insurance number.

Or any valid/valid looking one it seems, i've never once seen them check in the motor tax office down here anyway. For example i often do my grandfather's tax, nct etc for him so i'd just go in and put down my number instead of his and recently was also in with a friend taxing her car and she hadn't got her cert yet so again put my number down. You're not really supposed to but it works

Gran Hermano

_Conrad_ wrote: »

Or any valid/valid looking one it seems, i've never once seen them check in the motor tax office down here anyway. For example i often do my grandfather's tax, nct etc for him so i'd just go in and put down my number instead of his and recently was also in with a friend taxing her car and she hadn't got her cert yet so again put my number down. You're not really supposed to but it works

That could have interesting consequences when driving by an ANPR equipped squad car.

_Conrad_

Gran Hermano wrote: »

That could have interesting consequences when driving by an ANPR equipped squad car.

Well once you had your own genuine insurance then there's no problem. When i used to drive on a motor trade cert, in some unusual cars, i got pulle dover a few times as the reg was checked and no specific policy for that reg came up but i had my insurance cert with me and they quickly left me alone.

There's really no need to be paranoid as if you do have a valid policy wne stopped all that needs to be said is it was a mistake at the time, that's if you're even asked, which is unlikley.

Del2005

Gran Hermano wrote: »

That could have interesting consequences when driving by an ANPR equipped squad car.

They can't use ANPR for insurance since it's not linked to any system and the details aren't verified when applying for tax.

I always do my own and my parents tax online and while I input insurance details I don't ever check to make sure they are correct.

They don't even look at the cert in the tax office so you can lie doing it over the counter.

R.O.R

Del2005 wrote: »

They can't use ANPR for insurance since it's not linked to any system and the details aren't verified when applying for tax.

From the 1st July all cars should be uploaded to the NFD so they appear on the ANPR system for Gardai. The NFD is for vehicle fleets, but brokers should have loaded all private policies to the system already.

I say should as one of the large insurer's hasn't got around to issuing UID's for the system to their customers yet, so there will still be thousands of vehicles driving around that aren't loaded.

MagicSean

Del2005 wrote: »

They can't use ANPR for insurance since it's not linked to any system and the details aren't verified when applying for tax.

I always do my own and my parents tax online and while I input insurance details I don't ever check to make sure they are correct.

They don't even look at the cert in the tax office so you can lie doing it over the counter.

The ANPR is supplied with the insurance details you give when renewing your tax so if the policy you put on your renewal form is out of date then it will flag.

Also by putting false details on your renewal form and signing the declaration you are committing an offence.

Del2005

Seanbeag1 wrote: »

The ANPR is supplied with the insurance details you give when renewing your tax so if the policy you put on your renewal form is out of date then it will flag.

Also by putting false details on your renewal form and signing the declaration you are committing an offence.

I don't put false details, I just couldn't be bothered verifying I didn't make a typo. All our cars are totally road legal and it doesn't bother me if I get pulled.

Having Joe Public enter their details is just leaving it open to fraud, get policy, tax car, cancel/suspend policy. Scumbag can now happily drive around and not get flagged by ANPR. At least with insurance companies supplying the details they can remove cancelled/suspended policies in real time.

The NFD site isn't very clear. Is it self registering or is it done by the insurance companies?