Do You Think Referees Are Influenced By A Players Reputation?

ynwa_17

Pretty much what is says on the tin. Do you think referees are more willing to dish our yellow cards to Javier Mascherano and Roy Keane over the likes of Michael Owen and David Beckham based on reputation alone? The same tackle or dissent by keane or Mascherano gets a booking, but the same from the Owen and Beckham goes unpunished.

JPA

Keane is definitely doing something wrong if he's still getting yellow cards.

Vicxas

While i feel 90% of referee calls are unbiast I do get the feeling that certain key players get a bit of leeway, Ill refer you to the tackle on Nani by Jamie Carragher in the Utd - Liverpool match, Now im a pool fan but even i thought that was gonna be a red card.

aidan24326

There's no doubt they probably are influenced by reputation and a player's previous history.

But it's understandable that a 'clean' player might be given the benefit of the doubt over someone like Joey Barton.

GavRedKing

I rememebr watching Chelsea when JT got away with a horrendous tackle, he got a booking but it looked a stone wall red.

Needless to say as he was England captain that was part of the reason, and TBh it was probably true.

It works both ways, a good natured, well behaved player well get less bookings on his reputation then someone with a reputation for heavy, hard tackles.

amacachi

Vicxas wrote: »

While i feel 90% of referee calls are unbiast I do get the feeling that certain key players get a bit of leeway, Ill refer you to the tackle on Nani by Jamie Carragher in the Utd - Liverpool match, Now im a pool fan but even i thought that was gonna be a red card.

If Nani hadn't clowned around it may well have been a red. Anything that delays a ref's decision seems to often make the decision less strong than it would have been.

keano_afc

Its more English players who are treated differently. Off the top of my head, our horrendous 4-4 with Newcastle last season. Diaby got a straight red for the crime of pushing Barton. He raised his hands, rules are rules and its a straight red. Newcastle later score a penalty, in the handbags after when trying to get the ball back, Kevin Nolan punches Chesney and not a thing happened. Switch the players, and I'm sure the scenarios would have been different. Rooney commits some shocking tackles and gets a talking to at most. Gerrard dives and rarely gets pulled up on it. Scholes spent his whole career making dangerous tackles but it was laughed off as part of his game. Shearer was another one.

So I'd say refs are more lenient towards players based on nationality than reputation.

Paully D

Yes, without a doubt.

Gerrard elbowed a Sunderland player in front of the referee last year and got a yellow card. If it had been the other way around we all know what the outcome would have been :rolleyes: ''JT'' and ''Wazza'' (as the referees refer to them as) spend more time refereeing games than the actual referee and are rarely, if ever, punished for it. Scholes got away with murder because it was for some reason a source of humour in the game that he ''couldn't tackle'' and ''he's not the kind of player''. Etc, etc, etc.

It won't ever change until referees grown a spine, so probably never.

Liam O

Paully D wrote: »

Yes, without a doubt.

Gerrard elbowed a Sunderland player in front of the referee last year and got a yellow card. If it had been the other way around we all know what the outcome would have been :rolleyes: ''JT'' and ''Wazza'' (as the referees refer to them as) spend more time refereeing games than the actual referee and are rarely, if ever, punished for it. Scholes got away with murder because it was for some reason a source of humour in the game that he ''couldn't tackle'' and ''he's not the kind of player''. Etc, etc, etc.

It won't ever change until referees grown a spine, so probably never.

This Scholes thing is bull, he got plenty of yellow cards unless every sliding tackle that misses the ball should be a red card now?

I do however think that the 'flair' players get an unfair reputation from referees, players like Nani and other wingers at the top teams are fouled 5 or 6 times a game so the ref might start to think they are up to something and when they inevitably overreact to something the ref will feel like he is justified to be harsh on them

Paul Tergat

For sure, its human nature

bUILDERtHEbOB

The time Mascherano went mental at Old Trafford, if that had been Gerrard or Carragher, I'm almost certain there wouldn't have been a red card.

mikemac

Graham Poll caused controversy on Setanta about two or three years ago claiming that England captain John Terry was less likely to be sent off based on his reputation.
Wouldn't be good to be seen sending off the England captain it seemed

So retired referees think it's a factor

Columbia

I remember when Andy Johnson played for Everton, he got a reputation as a bit of a diver (which, to be fair, he was), mostly due to Arsene Wenger pointing it out in the media right before a match against us.

AJ was kicked all over the place in that game and couldn't buy himself a free kick. I have no doubt the referee was influenced by Wenger's comments and AJ's reputation.

Very clever play by Arsene.

tolosenc

I dunno. Everyone with a function pair of eyes know that Barca dive left, right and centre and they never get called for it...

wandatowell

tolosenc wrote: »

I dunno. Everyone with a function pair of eyes know that Barca dive left, right and centre and they never get called for it...

But thats only because Unicef are a bunch of unscrupulous b@stardos hell bent on world domination!!!!




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eagle eye

Referees are different, some are affected by it some aren't. The best ones aren't imo.