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Bird of Prey - ID?

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  • 29-06-2011 10:57pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭


    Hi All,

    On tuesday morning I noticed a number of swallows/house martins chasing what I initially thought was shaped very like a Kestrel.

    I observed the bird of prey for about 10mins. It was a really clear morning and not a cloud in the sky. The bird climbed up to a serious height and just seemed to circle around. Does this sound more like the actions of a Buzzard rather than a Kestrel? If so, would the Buzzard not take out the much smaller swallows/house martins?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭snowstreams


    If it was falcon shaped, i.e. a similar shape to a kestrel I would say that its a peregrine falcon or a merlin. Buzzards wouldn't bother with swallows or house martins. The only other bird that would attack swallows could have been a sparrowhawk but they wouldn't go up very high like that for long periods of time.
    So your best bet would be peregrine falcon, although it could have been a kestrel that was fond of swallows.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,650 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    If it was falcon shaped, i.e. a similar shape to a kestrel I would say that its a peregrine falcon or a merlin. Buzzards wouldn't bother with swallows or house martins. The only other bird that would attack swallows could have been a sparrowhawk but they wouldn't go up very high like that for long periods of time.
    So your best bet would be peregrine falcon, although it could have been a kestrel that was fond of swallows.

    Another possiblity would be a Hobby - an outside chance yes but this species would be more likely to target hirundians then the others


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Maybe I'm wrong but I read the OP to say this Raptor was NOT taking the Swallows/Martins but that they were chasing it.

    It sounds like Buzzard behaviour but the description is confusing. Buzzards would not usually take adult Hirundines. The shape is nothing like a Kestrel and the size is so different. I thought Peregrine at first but again there is a huge size difference and it would not be chased off by Swallows.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Sounds pretty much like a typical swallow/Sparrowhawk interaction to me to be honest.


    I see swallows harrass my regular male sprawk on a regular basis and his response is generally to gain altitude and circle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 944 ✭✭✭swifts need our help!


    sparrowhawks soar on rounded wings


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    sparrowhawks soar on rounded wings



    The OP said that he saw a bird that may have looked a bit like a kestrel in shape.

    People often mix up a kestrel and a sparrowhawk from distance when looking at the bird from underneath as they can appear very similar.


    kestrel.jpg



    sparrowhawk-9.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 970 ✭✭✭cuddlycavies


    Kess73 wrote: »
    Sounds pretty much like a typical swallow/Sparrowhawk interaction to me to be honest.


    I see swallows harrass my regular male sprawk on a regular basis and his response is generally to gain altitude and circle.

    +1


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Berger1


    based on details given that sounds very like a Buzzard.they are becoming quite common and spend alot of time soaring in cirlces at height.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 CillDaraAbu10


    Kess73 wrote: »
    The OP said that he saw a bird that may have looked a bit like a kestrel in shape.

    People often mix up a kestrel and a sparrowhawk from distance when looking at the bird from underneath as they can appear very similar.


    kestrel.jpg



    sparrowhawk-9.jpg
    stunning photo love it


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