Sports presenters

Gophur

Why do Sports presenters have to try to find so many different ways to say the same thing? Are they afraid of saying the same word over and over?

For example (I'm paraphrasing here)

"Liverpool stumbled to a 2-1 win over Everton today. The "2005 Champions League winners" scored late in the first half to take a lead over the in-form Toffees, only for the Blues to equalise five minutes after the interval. Kenny Dalglish's men finally broke through in the 89th minute with a second goal which elevated the reds to 5th in the table!"

For Gaelic Games it seems one can only use the County name once, then one must use the nickname " the Rebels", the Royals, The Tribemen, etc

TodayFM's Paul Collins, Michal McMullan and Lindsay (?) are the biggest culprits. Is it a sin to be caught using the same word twice?

mike65

Its not a sin but if you end up repeating one team name 3 times in as many sentences it does sound rather repetitive.

dib

Sure if the presenter said Liverpool, Liverpool, Liverpool you'd be starting a thread about it here too. You just can't win with this place.

Derryleigh

For Gods sake. Do people on here have nothing better to do than go "hmm., I really must find an angle so that I can start a thread"

Fran1985

"Liverpool stumbled to a 2-1 win over Everton today. Liverpool scored late in the first half to take a lead over the in-form Everton, only for Everton to equalise five minutes after the interval. Liverpool finally broke through in the 89th minute with a second goal which elevated Liverpool to 5th in the table!"

Yeah, much better.

Gophur

Fran1985 wrote: »

"Liverpool stumbled to a 2-1 win over Everton today. Liverpool scored late in the first half to take a lead over the in-form Everton, only for Everton to equalise five minutes after the interval. Liverpool finally broke through in the 89th minute with a second goal which elevated Liverpool to 5th in the table!"

Yeah, much better.

Listen to a few of them and see how it sounds?

For someone to understand the original piece one would have to already know the colours of the teams, the nicknames of the teams and the managers of the teams. It would be possible to present such a report without naming the team so many times.

Some of the presenters are way OTT with it.

Imhof Tank

It has to be something they teach in producer school 101 -the stock market reports are the same

the nasdac was up
the dow jones 100 gained
the isec fell and the ftse lost ground


On a scale of 1 -10 of annoyances, it is a 1 at most tho

Gophur

It's nothing more than an observation.

Some replies seem more worked up about it than I ever will?

Melmar

I'd be more concerned about the lack of information they provide in the bulletins, perhaps caught up in how to present "short and snappy" bulletins rather than focus on the information provided.

Fran1985

i kinda thought about it a bit more since you said it. But you get it in all forms of reporting.

Minister for transport xyz has said..... The Dublin west TD added....

Its in all forms of reporting, both written and speech and is there so things dont sound repetitive, dont sound repetitive. There's no other alternative really, because as with my example above, you'll end up saying Liverpool 5/6 times per story and that just sounds stupid

amiable

Gophur wrote: »

It's nothing more than an observation.

Some replies seem more worked up about it than I ever will?

You reckon? Almost like someone getting worked up over factor.
But as you said you don't get as worked up as others

Btr

I have some sympathies with your argument and it really ain't (sic) no coincidence that in recent days DCU, which runs a major post grad journalism course announced that it would have to start teaching basic english language grammar to students as the standard was so bad. .....

Reminds me of a person I worked with on a station who was applying for a job of newsreader with another station. I asked how the application had gone and was informed that the interview had been good and they were pretty sure they'd got 3 or 4 out of 10 current affairs questions right.......

Gophur

amiable wrote: »

You reckon? Almost like someone getting worked up over factor.
But as you said you don't get as worked up as others

You need to look up the difference between getting "worked up" and "making an observation".

Btr wrote: »

I have some sympathies with your argument and it really ain't (sic) no coincidence that in recent days DCU, which runs a major post grad journalism course announced that it would have to start teaching basic english language grammar to students as the standard was so bad. .....

Reminds me of a person I worked with on a station who was applying for a job of newsreader with another station. I asked how the application had gone and was informed that the interview had been good and they were pretty sure they'd got 3 or 4 out of 10 current affairs questions right.......

Here's a quote from Sky Sports today

News: Striker David Suazo has left Inter Milan after his contract expired at the Giuseppe Meazza.

They could have just said

Striker David Suazo has left Inter Milan after his contract expired.

amiable

Gophur wrote: »

You need to look up the difference between getting "worked up" and "making an observation".



Here's a quote from Sky Sports today



They could have just said

Yes sir

Anything else ?

It clearly went over your head

giftgrub

I think its kind of interesting, and if you're really into it check out the BBC Style Guide

One sports readers favourite is to use as many phrases as possible for goalkeeper.

Most of the time they'll get it out of the way in the first para and then lose the run of them selves....
It might go a little something like this..

Aston Villa have their eyes on Shay Given.

The Man City goalkeeper could be in line to replace Brad Friedel.

Its understood that the Irish netminder is Alex McLeish first choice for the job.

The 35 year old ball stopper...

and so on and so forth

FlutterinBantam

Derryleigh wrote: »

For Gods sake. Do people on here have nothing better to do than go "hmm., I really must find an angle so that I can start a thread"

Derry, do you mind me being honest.?

John Q Taxpayer pays for the goings on out in Montrose, also the advertisers.

There is an old saying"He who pays the piper calls the tune".

So... if you understand that sage, don't get too anal if the people who pay for RTE are critical of the setup there.

RTE do a lot of very very good things, but the cost base is way, I say again,way,way, too high.


Do you understand what I am saying buddy?

RadioRetro

giftgrub wrote:

Aston Villa have their eyes on Shay Given.

The Man City goalkeeper could be in line to replace Brad Friedel.

Its understood that the Irish netminder is Alex McLeish first choice for the job.

The 35 year old ball stopper...

The first two sentences are fine, but leave out the 'netminder' and 'ball stopper' in the others. We've established who he is and what he does, no need for more. That's what I do anyway. Can't be arsed with all these ways of describing the one person.

Derryleigh

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Derry, do you mind me being honest.?

John Q Taxpayer pays for the goings on out in Montrose, also the advertisers.

There is an old saying"He who pays the piper calls the tune".

So... if you understand that sage, don't get too anal if the people who pay for RTE are critical of the setup there.

RTE do a lot of very very good things, but the cost base is way, I say again,way,way, too high.


Do you understand what I am saying buddy?

Who said this was anything to do just with RTE presenters.

Derryleigh

Local radio though can be very funny. It seems every station has a GAA commentator who beleives that the only way to commentate is to roar and shout.

padd b1975

Derryleigh wrote: »

Local radio though can be very funny. It seems every station has a GAA commentator who beleives that the only way to commentate is to roar and shout.

Nothing funny about local radio friend, majority of those stations are run as tight as a drum and provide fantastic service to their chosen area, something that money pit RTE could do well to copy.
O and did I mention they regularly are the most listened to stations.