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A problem with infinitesimals

  • 27-06-2011 11:05AM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8


    I've been playing around with a free PDF Calculus book lately. But, I have no way to check the logic used to get to a particular answer. I've been trying to find the standard part for:

    (1/ɛ)((1/sqrt(4+ɛ))-(1/2))

    I've tried every way I could think of to algebraically manipulate this in order to avoid dividing by zero (taking the standard part of 1/ɛ). Just by looking at the problem, I would think it would be undefined...but the odd answers tell me otherwise.

    Thanks :)


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭Davidius


    I'm not sure what the standard part is exactly, Wikipedia makes it out to be something similar to taking a limit. Using limits you could apply L'Hopital's rule here to get an answer, maybe something similar for this case?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,704 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Multiplying by 1/infinity is the same as multiplying by zero is it not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭MathsManiac


    Sounds like "non-standard analysis", which I know nothing about, but I agree that this is probably a formulation in that theory of what we normally consider as the limit as epsilon goes to 0.

    If that's the case, l'Hopital's rule gives the answer as -1/16.

    Here's how you can do it without l'Hopital's rule:

    I'll use h instead of epsilon, if you don't mind, and unfortunately, I can't LaTeX!

    First, bring together the two fractions in the second bracket:

    (1/h)[(2-sqrt(4+h))/(2sqrt(4+h))]

    Next, note that h can be written as the following, using the difference of two squares: (sqrt(4+h)-2)(sqrt(4+h)+2).

    Substituting that for the h in the 1/h term allows you to cancel one of those factors (at values infinitely close, but not equal, to h=0) to get (-1)/[2(sqrt(4+h)+2)sqrt(4+h)].

    This latter expression can readily be evaluated at h=0 to give -1/16.

    Is that the kind of answer you were looking for?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭later12


    Is it not just a case of

    2 - sqrt 4 + ɛ / ɛ2 sqrt 4 + ɛ

    and then conjugate the numerator and multiply


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