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*Eddie Jordan Appreciation Thread*

  • 26-06-2011 9:32pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭


    I know EJ get's loads of stick from the BBC. But what do we Irish make of him. I personally think he is a F1 icon and legend. Especially for Ireland, he's put us on the map. I love his commentary style too, though there's rumor he's leaving the BBC, due to constant harassment and from Jake and DC (don't blame him)

    :pac:

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,199 ✭✭✭G-Money


    kahf1_01 wrote: »
    there's rumor he's leaving the BBC, due to constant harassment and from Jake and DC (don't blame him)

    :pac:

    eddiejordan.jpg

    I can imagine DC giving him hassle but Jake??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭Bigal87


    For me he is the one that makes the BBC coverage interesting. He's hilarious.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭decisions


    He can talk a lot of crap but at the same time he is a bit of fun he seems to know the entire grid and he regularly gets interviews that I dont think the bbc would otherwise get.

    And:
    eddie_jordan.jpg
    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭wobbles


    EJ has so many contacts on the grid that the BBC need him on board. DC can get them into the Red Bull garage but EJ can get interviews with anyone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    decisions wrote: »
    eddie_jordan.jpg
    :pac:

    stop staring in disbelief and pull the easily accessible string already :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭GTE


    G-Money wrote: »
    I can imagine DC giving him hassle but Jake??

    Jakes downside is that he says the most awkward things when he is either bring people in to or out of the conversation. He usually ends up insulting the person or at least saying something that you have to cringe at. He did give Eddie a hard time for the Euro GP and does seem to follow in whatever footsteps DC takes that day.

    I remember he asked him what the engine mapping was and he said what it was and then went on to explain the repercussions of the change in regulations but Jake cut him off and said how he just asked him for a definition and I am sure EJ felt very embarrassed being spoken to like that.

    Im not out to defend Eddie too much because he can be very unwatchable sometimes but still, why ask a pundit a question like that and not expect an answer with some info on its effect? Personally, I wanted to know who he thought was going to be hit the hardest by it. That is just one that got my attention.

    Another one was when he said Hamilton was wrong to say what he when he made a racist joke along with the rest of the comments. Jordan, as the team owner perspective pundit said he doesnt like to see it and he got slated by Jake and DC for it. DC hardly though, Jake really laid into him for it.

    From Jakes point of view its good to see Hamilton flip like that since he works in the media, for EJ is not good from his team owning perspective and DC has a perspective of being told what to say and not say in the past. We all love to see it but what was forgotten at that moment in time was that the two pundits are there to represent their views in relation to their past experience, not lap it up like media sheep.


    I think Humphrey is generally hopeless in his role. I thought he was nervous at the start but he just seems generally awkward. DC annoys the hell out of me. He always goes for "well all that matters is who crosses the line first" *while having his voice pitched up about a quarter way through the sentence* and other horse crap answers like that when asked by Brundle. One in particular was when he was asked something along the lines of how can Webber beat Vettel and he replied roughly "Simple, qualify ahead of him". We all know Vettel has a gift but it strikes me as DC not having a clue. He was asked HOW does beat Vettel, so HOW does he qualify ahead of him?
    How about study his lap charts? Videos? See where Vettel pushes the limit a bit? No no, all he has to to is beat Vettel to beat Vettel.

    EJ can be very cringe worthy too, I switched off when he did a grid walk.

    The only good person there IMO is Brundle and hes been locked away in a truck for the forum. The only thing DC offers is Red Bull and a usually strong pundit role tainted by annoying commentary and really silly moments before and after the race. EJ has many contacts, the part of the grid walk I did look at was when he got Ecclestone and he did it easily. From what I have seen its like getting water from a stone usually. Humphreys brings nothing.

    My god, that really turned into a rant!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    I love Eddie but more so i love his shirts :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,686 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Eddie just takes that annoying couple of seconds to get going when he tries to answer something. I like him though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭Beekay


    I like him. He gets the difficult interviews, asks important questions that the other might not seem to think of or be afraid to ask (such as the question to Ross Brawn about who has the option for another year on Schumachers contract). Yeah sometimes he can be a bit cringey but it's a bit entertaining.

    Jake pisses me off sometimes the way he seems to try to put him down.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭vincenzolorenzo


    I think EJ brings a lot to the BBC coverage even though he can be annoying when he starts rambling on and not actually answering the question he was asked. Sometimes I think he forgets he's on TV and has a job to do, eg-going celebrating with the Brawn team when they won the title in 09 right in the middle of the show, but I thought that was hilarious! His 'interview' with Dietrich Mateschitz after Abu Dhabi last year was also priceless. Typical Jordan!

    It does annoy me a bit the way he's constantly the butt of Jake and DC's jokes. Its like they want him to be the James May of F1 and make him out to be a fool, and Jake's 'exasperated' looks into the camera when he starts talking seem to confirm that. EJ can certainly be limited when it comes to the technicalities of a TV production but he's well worth his spot because of the team owner insight he gives, plus the people he can nab for interviews.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I like his shirts and when they get somebody big on the spot, Jordan is not afraid to ask a no holds barred question. In regards to the Jake, DC and EJ partnership. They come across as they get along. Im sure they have formed a strong friendship considering they travel the world every second week together. Its just banter they have on TV. Jake doesnt come across as the snipey type.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Eddie Jordan speaks from the heart. He knows & loves the sport, & whether the point he's making at whatever time is right or wrong, you know he truly believes what he's saying. They are his thoughts, not some PR agenda or democratic niceties...for that alone, I think he's fantatstic. Not everyone agrees with everyone, so its natural when you have someone like him there will be those who don't agree with his sentiments, but he's the most honest of the pundit team...yes that makes him an easy target, but for me it makes him...real.

    DC is the master of stating the obvious. To mirror above, raising the pitch of your voice half way through a sentence does not denote passion or excitement. Smarmy, boring, uninteresting is how I'd describe DC. He plays the corporate game well (RB), so naturally he doesn't stand out in the way EJ does. He has no real sense of passion during commentary, no proper sense of humour...& comes across as someone who should be flipping white board pages while holding a laser pointer.

    Jake was better in previous seasons. I think he's getting too comfortable in the role now, & pushing the boat out slightly with his attitude towards EJ. He can be good, & brings a youthful approach to F1 on the BBC, but he just doesn't work when coupled with DC...

    This is all based off out perception from the tv, behind doors they prop have great crack & get on very well...we really don't know :)

    But yeah, EJ shines the most out of them all for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    He has a very dry but witty sense of humour. Its very easy to miss some of his jokes.

    This is David Coulthard we're talking about yeah?? The man is as humourous as any secondary school science teacher.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    Yeah! Only DC would get away with a porno joke at 5 in the afternoon! I think his dry wit is a good match for Brundle.

    I remember the one you were talking about alright & did say to myself it seemed out of sorts with his usual type of humour :D At the start of the season he stood out for me from a negative point of view, now I bearly notice him & ither things have come to the front as negative...namely everything else :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    Yeah! Only DC would get away with a porno joke at 5 in the afternoon! I think his dry wit is a good match for Brundle.

    That wasnt a porno joke it was a World War 2 joke! Didnt you see schumis face?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭TommyTippee


    Eddie Jordan's a gobsh*te.

    I read his autobiography in one afternoon. It's like Alan Partridge's - every anecdote ends with Eddie coming out on top.

    It was the most boring, smug load of crap I've ever had the misfortune to purchase and it told me all I needed to know about him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    DC's a gobsh*te.

    I read his autobiography in one afternoon. It's like Alan Partridge's - every anecdote ends with DC coming out on top.

    It was the most boring, smug load of crap I've ever had the misfortune to purchase and it told me all I needed to know about him.

    Fyp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,099 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    I really like the current team, including Eddie. Compare it to James Allen for 90 minutes and then Tony Jardine and Mark Blundell doing analysis in a dreary studio, I know which one I'd choose!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,283 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    Last season when they were a trio seemed to work better than just EJ and JH. Much better banter and they were able to offset each other perfectly with DC and EJ as the odd couple and JH holding the show together and keeping them apart.

    As a duo it just doesn't seem to work as well.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭decisions




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Cool_CM


    It was the most boring, smug load of crap I've ever had the misfortune to purchase and it told me all I needed to know about him.

    I picked up the paperback edition in Dublin Airport there a few months ago, was looking forward to reading it.
    In the end, whilst in some way interesting, it had a load of annoying typos and a few glaring factual errors.
    At the end of the day I respect the guy for what he has achieved and think he's hilarious to watch because he can get away with saying/doing things that other people wouldn't even try.
    He's one of the reasons that I miss BBC coverage.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Hmmm... to be honest I don't like the way Eddie talks to Jake a lot of the time. He treats Jake like a kid. A couple of GPs ago Eddie made reference to a boxing match and added that jake woudln't know what happpened or how big of an event it was because "he wasn't born yet."

    Eddie may be the older of the 3 of'em, but he shouldn't be speaking to them like he's their grandad. I don't like it at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Hmmm... to be honest I don't like the way Eddie talks to Jake a lot of the time. He treats Jake like a kid. A couple of GPs ago Eddie made reference to a boxing match and added that jake woudln't know what happpened or how big of an event it was because "he wasn't born yet."

    Eddie may be the older of the 3 of'em, but he shouldn't be speaking to them like he's their grandad. I don't like it at all.

    In fairness the jokes work both ways, its only a bit of humour. And to be honest, compared to EJ (and his F1 experience), Jake is a kid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    EnterNow wrote: »
    In fairness the jokes work both ways, its only a bit of humour. And to be honest, compared to EJ (and his F1 experience), Jake is a kid total douchebag.

    FYP
    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    FYP
    :pac:

    I wasn't aware many Americans watch F1 :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,423 ✭✭✭pburns


    God knows he can waffle on a bit and say things to be controversial but amid all the banter it's easy to forget he was a very successful F1 team owner during a period when manufacturers and big money took over the sport.

    OK, so they never won a championship but only a handful of teams actually won GPs in the 91-05 period. No-one oitside the big 3 won more than one - except Jordan. Sauber for example never managed to win a GP.

    Given his accomplishments it amazes me he lets a jumped-up kids TV presenter treat him the sneery way he does sometimes. Given all EJ's been through and his famous acid tongue I can't understand why he lets him away with it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    pburns wrote: »
    God knows he can waffle on a bit and say things to be controversial but amid all the banter it's easy to forget he was a very successful F1 team owner during a period when manufacturers and big money took over the sport.

    OK, so they never won a championship but only a handful of teams actually won GPs in the 91-05 period. No-one oitside the big 3 won more than one - except Jordan. Sauber for example never managed to win a GP.

    Given his accomplishments it amazes me he lets a jumped-up kids TV presenter treat him the sneery way he does sometimes. Given all EJ's been through and his famous acid tongue I can't understand why he lets him away with it!

    Case in point, he genuinely seems like a nice bloke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,423 ✭✭✭pburns


    EnterNow wrote: »
    Case in point, he genuinely seems like a nice bloke.

    Sorry, I don't follow you, EJ or Jake's a nice bloke? I think JH is OK, just a bit over-confident at the moment.

    I just don't get EJ! He can come across as an eejit but he achieved a helluva lot in his career. Most of it through sheer brass neck and balls but there had to be some brains, drive and business acumen too. It doesn't tally with the guy I see on TV every week or two!


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