Self Defence / no defence

1995sarah

If sombody breaks into a house and the resident stabs that person in self defence, would he or she be prosecuted.
What if the intruder pours petrol on the residents couch, how far can the resident go to protect their property and self.

MagicSean

If the Garda won't help you call his sergeant. If he won't help call his Inspector. And so on. There is very little that can be done against someone who hasn't actually done anything though. You could make a statement about his threat but it would be one word against the other. If the man has lived there with you during the last year you may be able to get a safety order or protection order against him.

I very much doubt the Garda would look the other way while his mate burned your house down though. In that situation you should really just get out of there. There could possibly be a case for self defense if you stabbed him but as you have clearly planned it already it's unlikely to stick.

tallaghtmick

1995sarah so that makes you 16.....to young to claim a house....i sense a troll

GSI

tallaghtmick wrote: »

1995sarah so that makes you 16.....to young to claim a house....i sense a troll

first post aswell. lulz

tallaghtmick

and post after post after post lulz

Laisurg

Well it would depend if the force used to defend yourself was deemed reasonable or not, ideally though you don't want it to come to that.
Has this guy actually tried to do anything before? I would say it's an empty threat.
But if you stabbed him in self defense and he died you would most likely be prosecuted.

blueythebear

1995sarah wrote: »

Thanks, nise to know we live in a country where the justice system sucks

Report every threat, phonecall or incident to the Gardaí so that there is a record of it. He could be pursued for a harassment charge under the Offences Against the Person Act on the basis of what you describe. If this is affecting you personally, ie that you're a nervous wreck, perhaps see your GP on the matter. Have all of this as a matter of record.

If anything were to happen, the Gardaí will take the matter more seriously. If you feel that it;s not being taken seriously on account of this man's friendship with the local Garda, then you should do as requested and write to the Sergeant and keep going up the ladder until somebody takes you seriously.

there are more gardai in the country than your one local guard.
no guard would stand by and watch your house burn down.

contact your local station, or the one in the nearest big town. tell them you want it on the record what is happening, that you are scared for your safety and that of your child. ring 999 if this guy hangs around your house.

system works fine when its used properly. i would not recommend you just wait and do nothing and then stab him!!

for a start im sure the gardai would check your computer records, and heres you weeks earlier looking to see if you can get away with stabbing/killing someone.........

booboo88

1995sarah wrote: »

Thanks, nise to know we live in a country where the justice system sucks

have you been under a rock for most of your life? or ever see a newspaper or report? yes it does suck. but stabbing someone is taking the law into your own hands which is illegal

but how in gods name will he get into your house, unless you let him in?

1995sarah

Wondering about human rights in Ireland. If a man breaks into a woman's house and attacks her, she takes a kitchen knife and stabs him in defence, would she be prosecuted. Now I know the self defence laws in Ireland are pretty bad but how in earth could a woman use reasonable force against a man twice her size without using a weapon. No dumbeg replies please.

MagicSean

She might not be prosecuted. If she is she has the option of claiming self defence at her trial before a jury.

source

Don't you already have a thread open in this forum asking the same question?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72998312#post72998312

1995sarah

Seanbeag1 wrote: »

If the Garda won't help you call his sergeant. If he won't help call his Inspector. And so on. There is very little that can be done against someone who hasn't actually done anything though. You could make a statement about his threat but it would be one word against the other. If the man has lived there with you during the last year you may be able to get a safety order or protection order against him.

I very much doubt the Garda would look the other way while his mate burned your house down though. In that situation you should really just get out of there. There could possibly be a case for self defense if you stabbed him but as you have clearly planned it already it's unlikely to stick.

You missed the point entirly. Everybody thinks about these scenarios in their lives and think what would U do in a situation like that.

1995sarah

foinse wrote: »

Don't you already have a thread open in this forum asking the same question?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72998312#post72998312

Why do you want to know, just wording it differently, no dumbeg replies please

booboo88

1995sarah wrote: »

havn't lived under the same rock as you then, criminals, robbers can break into houses pretty good now. When have you read the newspaper last duh.

ah sure move out, become an earth mother, no worries about someone breaking into your house then.

house alarm? but seriously? stabbing someone?
someone who threatens you usually is all talk.

dont thin we are getting full story here, why is he targeting you? the poor victim?

1995sarah

booboo88 wrote: »

ah sure move out, become an earth mother, no worries about someone breaking into your house then.

house alarm? but seriously? stabbing someone?
someone who threatens you usually is all talk.

dont thin we are getting full story here, why is he targeting you? the poor victim?

Are you sure your name isn't bullyboo, but seriously, what level of education do you have if any.

1995sarah

foinse wrote: »

Don't you already have a thread open in this forum asking the same question?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72998312#post72998312

Two claps for noticing. Woe you are a smart one.

MagicSean

1995sarah wrote: »

You missed the point entirly. Everybody thinks about these scenarios in their lives and think what would U do in a situation like that.

Nobody can say what they would do in the situation. Would you really be able to stick a knife into someone and kill them? It's not as easy to hurt people in real life as it is in your imagination.

Why have you opened three threads on this subject?

source

1995sarah wrote: »

Two claps for noticing. Woe you are a smart one.

Sarah I think you should read the charter. I've reported this duplicate thread to the mods.

Also with regard to your above quoted comment, personal abuse is not accepted on this forum. We have a little saying around these parts, "Attack the post, not the poster".

1995sarah

Seanbeag1 wrote: »

Nobody can say what they would do in the situation. Would you really be able to stick a knife into someone and kill them? It's not as easy to hurt people in real life as it is in your imagination.

Why have you opened three threads on this subject?

I seems to be taking 3 treads to get educated reasonable answers Seanbeager

MagicSean

1995sarah wrote: »

I seems to be taking 3 treads to get educated reasonable answers Seanbeager

Just because you don't like an answer it doesn't mean it is uneducated.

I think we've had a little insight into why this guy is so upset though.

1995sarah

Seanbeger, Get a life, you have 4204 posts in this boards.ie yoik. I suggest you take up a hobby that does't offend people.

1995sarah

Seanbeag1 wrote: »

Just because you don't like an answer it doesn't mean it is uneducated.

I think we've had a little insight into why this guy is so upset though.

you must be physic

MagicSean

If you click edit on your post you can add to your insults without creating a new post. A person doesn't need to be psychic to see the obvious.

Ihaveanopinion

seanbeag - maybe 1995sarah thought you were more physic than psychic?

source

Ihaveanopinion wrote: »

seanbeag - maybe 1995sarah thought you were more physic than psychic?

Well from what I've seen of seanbeag on here, he does obey the laws of physic(s).

1995sarah

Anyway Seanbeag, Have to go now, twas nise arguing with you, but unfortunatily I havn't the time to spend all day and night on the computer like you do. Have you tried getting out a little in life man, 4000 posts is a bit scary, you know what I mean. Good luck to yeah

1995sarah

foinse wrote: »

Sarah I think you should read the charter. I've reported this duplicate thread to the mods.

Also with regard to your above quoted comment, personal abuse is not accepted on this forum. We have a little saying around these parts, "Attack the post, not the poster".

Well if personal abuse is not accepted then you should be telling this to some others on this site. I only defend.
Sorry i took you the wrong way.

MagicSean

foinse wrote: »

Well from what I've seen of seanbeag on here, he does obey the laws of physic(s).

I try my best.

1995sarah wrote: »

Anyway Seanbeag, Have to go now, twas nise arguing with you, but unfortunatily I havn't the time to spend all day and night on the computer like you do. Have you tried getting out a little in life man, 4000 posts is a bit scary, you know what I mean. Good luck to yeah

Nice talking to you. Good luck with your problem.

FreudianSlippers

mo' posts, mo' problems.