Law & Business in Trinity

ozzz

Hey everyone,

I'm considering doing a Law course, preferably Law & Business in TCD starting this year.

However, this is my back up plan if I don't end up getting my first or second course. Just for some info, I have already done business for the LC.

I have read mixed reviews on boards and I'm not too sure what to think about a Law course at the moment.

I would appreciate it if anyone that is doing or has done such a course could tell me:

1. Is the course interesting in relative terms?
2. Whats the workload like and hours per week?
3. Social life
4. Future career and salary

Thanks a lot in advance

LittleMissLost

*I am not answering your question*
but
what are choices one and two? Law & Business was 555 in Trinity last year :eek:

ozzz

Medicine and Dentistry.

I don't think I did well enough for the 570- 580 needed for Dentistry and Medicine all really depends on the HPAT result out soon Depending on the HPAT, the points I need could range from 540- 600

randylonghorn

Moved from LC, you're more likely to find people who can actually answer your questions here.

RMD

Future career is entirely down to what you go into and how hard you work, there's no guaranteed income. If you went into Law for example you could scrape just over 50,000 a year or earn over 500,000 a year. It all depends on how hard you work. 5 figures if you're lazy, 6 figures if you're willing to work your ass off.

evercloserunion

I did straight law, not B&L but...

1. Entirely depends. What are your interests?
2. Work load really depends on you. In straight law anyway you have **** all lecture hours but you are expected to do your own study. It doesn't take a lot of study to do reasonably well (except around exam time obviously) but to do very well generally requires a lot of motivation and discipline.
3. Social life is great, in law anyway.
4. It's getting harder and harder to enter the profession, but B&L will give you an advantage when it comes to applying to commercial law firms.

nicola09

I've just finished 2nd year in Law and Political science and I think that doing a mixed degree is a good idea. In terms of the workload, I think we had 4 out of our 6 modules with Law and Business in first year, so I think they had a similar timetable to us; we had 5 modules (2 law and one social sciences) in the first semester and 4 (1 law and 3 social sciences) in the second semester. Those studying the straight law degree had 3 modules in each semester, which works out at around nine hours of lectures. The law modules tend to last a semester and I think business modules are all year long; we did Economic Policy with Law and Business and it was for the full year.
As far as expected salary and all that is concerned, it seems to vary very widely depending on which area of law you are interested in (I have no idea what the profitable area is these days on the post Celtic Tiger landscape!!) and whether you want to practice as a solicitor or barrister, but from applying for internships etc I believe it is very competitive to get in with a firm.
The social life in Trinity is great, the Law Soc is a popular society and there's always something going on, the annual Law Ball is a massive event and they also run debating competitions and have christmas parties etc etc... The good thing about a course like law is that since a lot of the work has to be done in your own time, you never have to miss out on nights out and stuff as long as you make time to fit in the study hours as well. So from this perspective it is quite a "social" course, I've lived with people studying pharmacy and other health science courses and it's a very different approach because they had so many hours. Law as a subject is very much at your own pace and how much work you are willing to put into it.

ozzz

Thanks for info everyone

ozzz

randylonghorn wrote: »

Moved from LC, you're more likely to find people who can actually answer your questions here.

Really? Check the difference

randylonghorn

ozzz wrote: »

Really? Check the difference

Um, you're more likely to find people who are doing or have done the course in the Trinity forum, not in the LC forum.

And indeed you have got several pretty detailed replies since I moved it here.

Sorry for trying to be helpful, like!

ozzz

randylonghorn wrote: »

Um, you're more likely to find people who are doing or have done the course in the Trinity forum, not in the LC forum.

And indeed you have got several pretty detailed replies since I moved it here.

Sorry for trying to be helpful, like!

My bad, i thought you moved it somewhere else

quinnsh

I did the law and french course. The workload is up to you. If you work mon-fri for maybe 4/5 hours a day you'll have no problems. I didn't do too much until after christmas and i managed a 2.1 without any major problems. The course content has changed recently due to the semesterisation but by and large law is really interesting, often funny (especially tort and criminal) and is one of the few areas of academic study not yet dominated by the post 1968 hippy sociology cultural marxist crew. it's a fantastic degree to have, it punches above its weight in terms of impressing people and is great for developing independent thought. work and salary when you leave are up to you. i know one guy who now works for the central bank in dublin, i have a few solicitor/barrister trainee mates, i know a journalist, a ph.d candidate.....the list is endless.
to be honest, the business element is really popular among employers (well that's what my ucd friends tell me about b&l so i assume it's the same for trinity) but some people in BESS have told me that business isn't worth the paper it's written on in terms of academic weight, challenge etc... so that one is up to you.

_Bella_

I was wondering on the business aspect I haven't heard good things about the standard of the business department in Trinity? Is it true that it's really poor in comparison with UCD?

Elli-May

ozzz wrote: »

Hey everyone,

I'm considering doing a Law course, preferably Law & Business in TCD starting this year.

However, this is my back up plan if I don't end up getting my first or second course. Just for some info, I have already done business for the LC.

I have read mixed reviews on boards and I'm not too sure what to think about a Law course at the moment.

I would appreciate it if anyone that is doing or has done such a course could tell me:

1. Is the course interesting in relative terms?
2. Whats the workload like and hours per week?
3. Social life
4. Future career and salary

Thanks a lot in advance

Hey just thought I'd send you a message about Law and Business in Trinity. I started in the course the first year Trinity did it and by the 2nd week I knew there was no way I'd enjoy it. The law department and business department arent linked at all so you've to deal with both departments which is a bit of a mess and honestly, the business department is horrific. I'd say about 30% of the class dropped out/wanted to drop out. I changed to pure law because I knew straight away it was for me. Obviously I've been quite negative so far but I know the L&B crew are super close and are a nice group and if you really enjoy business then give it a go

_Bella_

Elli-May wrote: »

Hey just thought I'd send you a message about Law and Business in Trinity. I started in the course the first year Trinity did it and by the 2nd week I knew there was no way I'd enjoy it. The law department and business department arent linked at all so you've to deal with both departments which is a bit of a mess and honestly, the business department is horrific. I'd say about 30% of the class dropped out/wanted to drop out. I changed to pure law because I knew straight away it was for me. Obviously I've been quite negative so far but I know the L&B crew are super close and are a nice group and if you really enjoy business then give it a go

What was it that put you off the business side? Do you know it the organisation for the course has improved?

gutenberg

_Bella_ wrote: »

What was it that put you off the business side? Do you know it the organisation for the course has improved?

I didn't do L&B, but I did do a course that involved two departments. There is usually one department that is responsible for the overall coordination of such a course, with a specific person designated as the coordinator & point of contact for students. How effective this is depends on the departments involved, however- some of departments are better than others. But there is always someone you can contact who is responsible for *your* course specifically.

I wouldn't let the fact that the course involves two departments put you off to be honest. Yes, at times you may find yourself going between the two, but really it won't impact that much on your enjoyment of the course. The respective departments will each organize their own lectures, tutorials etc. The only issue I ever had was that sometimes it seemed as if the two departments didn't coordinate too well on spacing deadlines, but then it was more a problem that one of the two was not exactly well internally coordinated!

abbevilleson

I'm trying to decide between BESS and Law and Business in Trinity... Am finding it really hard 2 decide so if anyone's any help that would be great!!

Bess has great Erasmus links and would allow me to keep on french while keeping a broad range of subjects like politics and economics but ive heard its not the best a great degree in the end when trying to get employment... also, there isnt much of a focus on technology e.g ICT and MIS which would be important for the jobs market :P

Law and Business would be general 2 but doesnt have the best erasmus links and doesnt allow you to keep a language for too long... Although it would be interesting and would be a good base degree. I've heard working between the 2 departments is pretty difficult 2!!

Also.... Is the Arts block in Trinity really snobby... just something i've heard and was wondering !!

Was also wondering what the timetable is like for both courses?? Is it very hectic or OK?? would love to get involved in clubs and socities and would hope to stay in Halls!!

SOO CONFUSED ABOUT IT ALL!!! Thanks guys!!