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Art or Not - God Hates Fags.

  • 25-06-2011 5:45pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭


    See a lot of comment on offensive art in cork,

    Quick Poll... Is the following ART aswell?

    http://f.bandcamp.com/z/24/49/2449791495-1.jpg

    Art or Not 8 votes

    Is it art and therefore not offensive?
    0% 0 votes
    Its not art, it is offensive
    25% 2 votes
    Draw what you like, its a free world.
    75% 6 votes


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    What is that and where is it on show?

    Details.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,834 ✭✭✭stimpson


    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭alex73


    What is that and where is it on show?

    Details.


    Front cover of a CD album in the US, What is called "Album Artwork"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    it is art but it will be offensive to some people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    One man's art is another man's fart.

    When an unmade bed can be short-listed for a prestigious award in the 'art' world, who can ever say.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    It needs context with regard to any possible offence.

    Is it art? Yeah, it's the artwork for a release.

    Is it at all good?

    No.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭alex73


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    One man's art is another man's fart.

    When an unmade bed can win a prestigious award in the 'art' world, who can ever say.

    Ok, Even when the ART has an explicit message to hate a section of Society?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    alex73 wrote: »
    Ok, Even when the ART has an explicit message to hate a section of Society?

    Well, if the Mona Lisa was giving a Nazi salute, would it still not being amazing 'painting'?

    I'm not saying that the image you included was art, I am just saying almost anything can be classified as such and who is to say they are wrong, when someone can almost win the Turner prize with an unmade bed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    If its an album cover I take it the artist is phudge packers and the album name is God hates fags ?

    If thats the case then the artwork is the picture behind the titles and yes it can be considered art.

    I think art is when interpretation is left to the viewer, reader or listener. When there is no room for interpretation as with a statement of "God hates fag" then it cant be considered as anything other than either the opinion of the "artist" or an attepmt to incite hatred towards a group of people based on the "artists" own views.

    So its artwork with the artist and album name printed over it.

    Basically its advertising using artwork with product name on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    Well, smoking does kill.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    alex73 wrote: »
    Ok, Even when the ART has an explicit message to hate a section of Society?


    Did you do any research at all before you started this thread?

    You do realise the band in question are made up of members of the gay community and the album is a parody on social commentary, and tongue in cheek.

    Things make more sense in context.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭Cill Dara Abu


    Jeez!! God hates Gay people and fags??? He really should get out more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭alex73


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Well, if the Mona Lisa was giving a Nazi salute, would it still not being amazing 'painting'?

    I'm not saying that the image you included was art, I am just saying almost anything can be classified as such and who is to say they are wrong, when someone can almost win the Turner prize with an unmade bed.


    I think some artist use their Licence to find an edge rather than to express real art. Changing Our Lady of Guadalupe to a woman in Bikini is offensive, lacks taste. Of course a Good painting of a naked lady is art, natural beauty, not intended to cause offense. But what the Mexican "artist" has done she did to provoke attention, creating value for the piece ( I suppose who can blame her ) but is it right for offend a section of society in this way for your own finance end?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Joe Duffy is not amused.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭alex73


    Did you do any research at all before you started this thread?

    You do realise the band in question are made up of members of the gay community and the album is a parody on social commentary, and tongue in cheek.

    Things make more sense in context.


    I did. (as I didn't want to offend them)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    alex73 wrote: »
    I did. (as I didn't want to offend them)


    Who's them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Did you do any research at all before you started this thread?

    Unlikely, despite claims made by the OP to the contrary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    I preferred the piss christ.

    He even got death threats for that one... I assume by Muslims angry at the piss being taken from their saint since I'm told only Muslims do that kind of thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Of course he hates them, why would he have put cancer in them to catch the smokers otherwise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Most art is sh1t, therefore irrelevant


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    alex73 wrote: »
    See a lot of comment on offensive art in cork,

    Quick Poll... Is the following ART aswell?

    http://f.bandcamp.com/z/24/49/2449791495-1.jpg

    Yes it is. Justy because you (or I) agree with it or don't agree with it or ebdcause it sends a bigoted message doesn't automatically stop it from being art.

    Hitler was an artist too.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Who honestly gives a ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    I have a feeling this thread wasn't started to have an discussion on what is or isn't deemed as art.

    /thread.


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