1st year

LC2010HIS

Hi Guys,

Im going to age myself here, but I was in 1st year in 2004 and junior cert, 2007.


My little sister is going into 1st year in September and it is my intention to guide her in regards to education by teaching her over the summer.

Can anyone outline the work that gets underway in 1st year for me? I really dont remember.

I just want to give her a head start

Thanks..

Desire.

It's all well and good wanting her to get a head start, but, honestly, there is no need.

You do very little work in first year and you most certainly do not need to start before you go into school. If you do your homework all year, and study the week leading up to the Christmas and Summer tests, you could easily get all As.

wrmwit

I agree with Desire.

If she's any way anxious starting first year you'll make it worse by making it a bigger deal than it already is.

I wish I was going into first year all over again!

LC2010HIS

wrmwit wrote: »

I agree with Desire.

If she's any way anxious starting first year you'll make it worse by making it a bigger deal than it already is.

I wish I was going into first year all over again!

Same

Well she asked me to do a little french with her? Vocab I guess...

Like, Im not going to go "exam papers" etc on her but Im wondering should I teach her a little bit of science or do english with her?

Maths?

See, I dont want to not help either but also dont want to put pressure on her...

Slow Show

To be blunt, starting secondary school work before 1st Year is absolute madness. There really is no need, I don't even really see the point in doing a bit of French with her, as you will only be able to master the basics in the given period of time, and these will be enforced constantly over the three years. It's good that you want to help, but I don't think this is the right way to go about it. I think it'd be more helpful if you were there for her if she needed a bit of help throughout the year, but for now she should just enjoy summer!

LC2010HIS

Slow Show wrote: »

To be blunt, starting secondary school work before 1st Year is absolute madness. There really is no need, I don't even really see the point in doing a bit of French with her, as you will only be able to master the basics in the given period of time, and these will be enforced constantly over the three years. It's good that you want to help, but I don't think this is the right way to go about it. I think it'd be more helpful if you were there for her if she needed a bit of help throughout the year, but for now she should just enjoy summer!

Yeah I guess. :rolleyes: Maybe Im still all hyped up since the leaving lol ....
Ok, Your all right! Dont want to make her a nervous wreck! Maybe 2nd year mahaha (joke) haha

robman60

Your intentions are good, and it's considerate of you to be willing to help your sister.

You'll probably be going to college next year, so you won't have much time during the year. When you're home, you could ask her if she has been struggling with anything, and if she is, try to help! Bí ag caint Gaeilge leí! The help would be better placed when she actually starts I think.

IloveConverse

This is an excellent idea,
It would be fantastic if you could perfect the basics of the subjects broadly. This would give her such a huge head-start and avoid common mis-building of foundations. You could practice the changing of signs in Mathematics and so forth. Fair play to you!

LC2010HIS

IloveConverse wrote: »

This is an excellent idea,
It would be fantastic if you could perfect the basics of the subjects broadly. This would give her such a huge head-start and avoid common mis-building of foundations. You could practice the changing of signs in Mathematics and so forth. Fair play to you!

Hey
Well, I was thinking basics, not diving into papers. Shes really smart. And I want to help her onwards. Im the oldest, didnt have guidance(dont get me wrong, I have great supportive parents but they went to school in the 80s) and just think with my experience, i could give her what I never had.

Yeah I know maths is a big thing and i have all revision books...

Desire.

I think helping her during the year with anything she is finding difficult would be enough.

Just let her know that if she has any questions that she can ask you.

spurious

Please don't do any Maths with her unless you know what methods her teacher will be using. Even simple things like the terms you use are enough to confuse 1st years. There are enough changes in the transition from primary to secondary without another stage.

The best help you can give her is to let her know that should she need any help you will be there to try help, but that all anyone expects of her is to try her best.

PenguinMan

I'm not that much younger than you OP, but here's a bit out of an outline for you. Having said that, I really don't think you should do much. Let her enjoy summer and all that. School is for learning, summer is for enjoying.

Maths:
Basics of sign changes (+ x - = - and all that)
Sets
Algebra (moving things across the = sign, solving basic equations like 2x + 4 = 6, up to stuff like quadratics, factorisation and simultaneous equations with two variables by the end of the year)

English:
Basics of poetry (assonance, alliteration, onomatopoeia)
Basic story writing (using appropriate tense(s) and sustaining that)

Irish:
Revision of present, past, future tense verbs (regular and irregular by the end of the year)

History:
Primary/secondary source
Romans
Bronze, Iron, Stone Age
St. Patrick
MAYBE Renaissance at the very end of the year.

Geography:
Can't remember that, didn't enjoy that one! Maybe stuff like types of rocks.

Science:
Depends on where the teacher starts. Physics begins with the basic stuff (speed, distance, time, area, volume, etc.)

CSPE:
Don't even bother :P.

Foreign Languages:
Basics of syntax (sentence structure)
Present tense verbs, past and future later
Yes/no/hi/bye/my name is/I am x years old/I live in...
Basic vocab
Days of the week, colours, numbers, etc.

Can't think of anything else right now.

LC2010HIS

All very good replies. Much appreciated

See, parents will be full time in the summer and Im staying home with her. Yeah we'll go for walks and tennis but I cant help but wonder should I take the opportunity!
Taking into consideration the transition, I agree I certainly dont want to confuse her. Poor kid.


PS CSPE - I got a B! Woo

robman60

LC2010HIS wrote: »

I cant help but wonder should I take the opportunity!

The unfortunate thing is that if you utilize the opportunity she'll probably be ridiculed for it. Anyone who's above average in anything is going to be subject to ridicule and you don't want her to become too reserved in first year. She'll have plenty of time once the academic year begins. Try to grow her life skills and experiences over the summer, it's as valuable a lesson as she'll ever get!

I can't believe I've just written this, but it's true...

LC2010HIS

robman60 wrote: »

The unfortunate thing is that if you utilize the opportunity she'll probably be ridiculed for it. Anyone who's above average in anything is going to be subject to ridicule and you don't want her to become too reserved in first year. She'll have plenty of time once the academic year begins. Try to grow her life skills and experiences over the summer, it's as valuable a lesson as she'll ever get!

I can't believe I've just written this, but it's true...

Oh jesus, "Swat" .....I remember that :P

matthew8

Every year since 5th class in primary school I've feared the next year and felt it was finally going to be a huge step up and I won't be able to handle it. I was, tell her that she will be able to. After all this I still think I won't be able to handle the step up in 5th year.

LC2010HIS

matthew8 wrote: »

Every year since 5th class in primary school I've feared the next year and felt it was finally going to be a huge step up and I won't be able to handle it. I was, tell her that she will be able to. After all this I still think I won't be able to handle the step up in 5th year.

If I could go back to 5th year.....
Cliche but, study and do homework from the start...... I wish I had.

robman60

LC2010HIS wrote: »

If I could go back to 5th year.....
Cliche but, study and do homework from the start...... I wish I had.

Ya, I've heard that. I was presuming it would be quite easy, similar to JC, but then my brother told me he did study from 4-7 most evenings.
Then again, I'm expecting him to get 560+ (He did LC this year).

Seriously considering TY because my current mindset is way off. I'm actually hoping I don't get A's in History and TG because it'll seem as if I've dropped a lot when it comes to senior...

LC2010HIS

For my own knowledge, can anyone outline the curriculum for 1st years 2011?

Can anyone from 2nd year tell me the curriculum please?

Thanks...:)

spurious

LC2010HIS wrote: »

For my own knowledge, can anyone outline the curriculum for 1st years 2011?

Can anyone from 2nd year tell me the curriculum please?

Thanks...:)

In what subject?

LC2010HIS

spurious wrote: »

In what subject?

Science, maths ,english?

PenguinMan

LC2010HIS wrote: »

For my own knowledge, can anyone outline the curriculum for 1st years 2011?

Can anyone from 2nd year tell me the curriculum please?

Thanks...:)

http://www.education.ie/home/home.jsp?pcategory=17216&ecategory=17317&language=EN

From the Department themselves .

robman60

Just want to reiterate the importance of helping your sister to understand the basics of the languages. I genuinely went all the way to summer of second year not understanding the languages at all. Irish, especially, seemed to just go straight over my head. I managed to turn that completely around in 3rd year, but the standard of language in Ireland seems to be much worse than in our European counterparts.

LC2010HIS

robman60 wrote: »

Just want to reiterate the importance of helping your sister to understand the basics of the languages. I genuinely went all the way to summer of second year not understanding the languages at all. Irish, especially, seemed to just go straight over my head. I managed to turn that completely around in 3rd year, but the standard of language in Ireland seems to be much worse than in our European counterparts.

Same. I was very bad at languages cause I didnt know where to start improving. I will definately help her with french, and shes a very lucky girl since Ive lots of grammar and vocab books

brian93

PenguinMan wrote: »

English: Basics of poetry (assonance,

I've just finished my leaving cert, and I did higher english and I don't know what that means :eek:

PenguinMan

brian93 wrote: »

I've just finished my leaving cert, and I did higher english and I don't know what that means :eek:

It's the repetition of a vowel sound . Not essential, but it's for commenting on stylistic techniques. An example of assonance is seen in Robert Frost's "The Road Not Taken". Note the repetition of the 'o' sound.

Robert Frost - The Road Not Taken wrote:

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveller, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth

brian93

ah! sounds like a good laugh. nothing beats a sibilant 's' sound in my opinion, or how Dickinson leaves out the s, to make it plashless, so it sounds smoother. I hated English