Security at Cork Airport

leahyl

Hi all,

This is kind of a weird question! Has anyone here ever brought suncream through security at Cork Airport that is more than 100mls? I have a flight booked with Ryanair and im only bringing carry on luggage but I want to bring suncream and it's more than 100mls which is the limit.

Would I get away with 150mls?

kensutz

Can't you just buy a bottle when you've reached your destination? Last year in Greece we just did that and threw away what we didn't use at the end of the holiday.

leahyl

kensutz wrote: »

Can't you just buy a bottle when you've reached your destination? Last year in Greece we just did that and threw away what we didn't use at the end of the holiday.

Ya I was thinking that too but I don't really want to be looking for suncream over there - not that it would be hard to find I suppose but I'd rather have it with me when going. I may have to wait until I get there though or else duty free but it'd prob cost a bomb there

kensutz

It might save a bit of hassle to get it over there. Pretty sure you can get it once you're passed the security checks in Cork Airport too but like you said, knowing them they'll charge a fortune for it. Check out to see if anyone like Boots have the mini suncream bottles. I'm sure some brand has brought out bottles to cater for the likes of yourself carrying items as hand luggage.

leahyl

kensutz wrote: »

It might save a bit of hassle to get it over there. Pretty sure you can get it once you're passed the security checks in Cork Airport too but like you said, knowing them they'll charge a fortune for it. Check out to see if anyone like Boots have the mini suncream bottles. I'm sure some brand has brought out bottles to cater for the likes of yourself carrying items as hand luggage.

Cool thanks for that! Wishful thinking that I might be able to worm my way through security with it I suppose

Thoie

Alternatively a lot of chemists sell little travel bottles of 100ml. Just decant your suncream into one of those, they're not expensive. Just label it so you don't confuse it with conditioner!

leahyl

Thoie wrote: »

Alternatively a lot of chemists sell little travel bottles of 100ml. Just decant your suncream into one of those, they're not expensive. Just label it so you don't confuse it with conditioner!

That's a very good idea actually:) thanks - might try that!

Cadyboo

kensutz wrote: »

It might save a bit of hassle to get it over there. Pretty sure you can get it once you're passed the security checks in Cork Airport too but like you said, knowing them they'll charge a fortune for it. Check out to see if anyone like Boots have the mini suncream bottles. I'm sure some brand has brought out bottles to cater for the likes of yourself carrying items as hand luggage.

They are actually not that much more expensive in the airport. A euro maybe..

Shhh

Hi I work in daa retail, mass branded suncreams like p20 and nivea etc are on buy one get one free in the loop shop in dub cork and Shannon airports at the moment and the high end brands like clarins and Lancaster and lancome and clinique sun products are 30% off downtown prices. Pm me if u have any specific query, but suncreams are good value in the airport. ..... Shhh

leahyl

Hi thanks for that Sshh! But I'm not going till August so I wonder will the deal still be there then?! Is piz buin included in the buy 1 get 1 free?

PcAngel

I always buy in Duty Free - they usually have good bargains. Saves you the hassle!

leahyl

PcAngel wrote: »

I always buy in Duty Free - they usually have good bargains. Saves you the hassle!

Thanks PcAngel! Think I will buy in duty free so :-)

corblimey

Well, I just went through security in Cork with toothpaste in my main bag and only liquids in my baggie, and nothing happened (tbh I didn't even know pastes and gels were verboten until I got to the head of the queue and then I stopped caring). So I would suggest bringing it with you and sure if they find it and dump it, go with plan a.

Daegerty

Chance bringing your own anyway if there is someone bringing you to the airport. you can give them whatever liquids, nail clippers, screw drivers and weapons of mass destruction they find.

Make life interesting for the security guards, cleverly hide as many of these simple things as you can and keep a record of how many they spot. Its not a crime to chance bringing shampoo with you and if someone can take it off your hands then you have nothing to lose

Shhh

leahyl wrote: »

Hi thanks for that Sshh! But I'm not going till August so I wonder will the deal still be there then?! Is piz buin included in the buy 1 get 1 free?

Hi there, piz buin is included and the promotion is till end august. Happy hols!

el Bastardo

I've found that dutyfree suncreem on the other side is almost always as good if not better a deal than you'd get at home. Don't bother y'arse bringing unnecessary handluggage.

booboo88

Daegerty wrote: »

Chance bringing your own anyway if there is someone bringing you to the airport. you can give them whatever liquids, nail clippers, screw drivers and weapons of mass destruction they find.

Make life interesting for the security guards, cleverly hide as many of these simple things as you can and keep a record of how many they spot. Its not a crime to chance bringing shampoo with you and if someone can take it off your hands then you have nothing to lose

not actually feasible, as they check your bag inside the terminal, where if your not a passenger, you aint allowed in.

Daegerty

booboo88 wrote: »

not actually feasible, as they check your bag inside the terminal, where if your not a passenger, you aint allowed in.

See when they say you can't take stuff you go out and hand it to the people who drop you off. Of course massive stares from the security crowd and they all thinking "Why don't you just give us all your stuff for free you misguided rebel don't worry we'll have you on the terrorist watch list in no time for this" but really there's nothing they can do to stop you. I've done this a few times myself

booboo88

Daegerty wrote: »

See when they say you can't take stuff you go out and hand it to the people who drop you off. Of course massive stares from the security crowd and they all thinking "Why don't you just give us all your stuff for free you misguided rebel don't worry we'll have you on the terrorist watch list in no time for this" but really there's nothing they can do to stop you. I've done this a few times myself

uhm, what time of year do you normally go on hols? so i can avoid it like the plague? irritating if nothing else

leahyl

Hang on though, am I not allowed to bring a tweezers or a razor (one of the embedded gilette womens one I mean) through in my hand luggage either?!

God dammit I need my tweezers!

Daegerty

booboo88 wrote: »

uhm, what time of year do you normally go on hols? so i can avoid it like the plague? irritating if nothing else

No fixed time of the year, could be any time really

leahyl wrote: »

Hang on though, am I not allowed to bring a tweezers or a razor (one of the embedded gilette womens one I mean) through in my hand luggage either?!

God dammit I need my tweezers!

Don't think so but a tweezers is one of the harder things to find. particularly if it's tweezed shut and packed against something else that has metal in it

leahyl

Daegerty wrote: »

No fixed time of the year, could be any time really



Don't think so but a tweezers is one of the harder things to find. particularly if it's tweezed shut and packed against something else that has metal in it

What about if I actually was honest about it and put it in the plastic bag thing with the cosmetics?! Would they def take it then?

And the razor is ok though I'd say?

Daegerty

leahyl wrote: »

What about if I actually was honest about it and put it in the plastic bag thing with the cosmetics?! Would they def take it then?

And the razor is ok though I'd say?

The tweezers they'd probably take but the razor is alright because its encased in plastic. Just like a glass bottle is ok when its still in tact but if you break it before going through security it's not allowed. If you break the glass bottle in the jacks after security it's grand

*Glass bottle needs to be empty

booboo88

Daegerty wrote: »

No fixed time of the year, could be any time really



Don't think so but a tweezers is one of the harder things to find. particularly if it's tweezed shut and packed against something else that has metal in it

damn it :P

Daegerty

booboo88 wrote: »

damn it :P

Tis the fecking security that's irritating not me. Complain to them instead

Babyblessed

leahyl wrote: »

Hi all,

This is kind of a weird question! Has anyone here ever brought suncream through security at Cork Airport that is more than 100mls? I have a flight booked with Ryanair and im only bringing carry on luggage but I want to bring suncream and it's more than 100mls which is the limit.

Would I get away with 150mls?

I agree with the decant idea! I buy own brand suncreams (tescos own is around €2 for 200mls) so buying duty free is way more expensive! What we tend to do when going abroad is share a suitcase between 4/5 of us and all it contains is liquids. We then carry-on everything clothing-wise.. I spose as we stay in a family owned villa with own amenities we dont really bring much but even so, we spend most of the time by the pool in swimwear... that and 2 going-out outfits and your sorted!

I got told off for a perfume that was 120ml sized bottle but less than half full.......nightmare! (Hasten to add it wasnt Cork!)

booboo88

Daegerty wrote: »

Tis the fecking security that's irritating not me. Complain to them instead

they may be irritating, no argument there, but you know the max size, so save yourself the bother and either buy it where your going, or just bring 100ml or less, as theres nothing more irritating than having to queue behind someone trying to pull a fast one, rules are rules

pow wow

The security at Cork airport are much stricter than at any other airport I've been to in the world - they made me buy a new ziplock bag for my liquids because the wee zipper toggle came off mine as I was closing it. The guy flipped his lid about it no longer being a zip lock bag to the point of ridiculousness.

So if the bottle is above the required size it might just send him completely over the edge :cool:

alanacadia

Hello, I work in airport search unit,
150 mils defo not allowed, but nothing stopping you from trying to get it through,
to the person that said hide as much stuff in your bag, thats fine really but what about all the people in the que behind thats held up for an extra 20 mins while we search the bag, sounds good to do it at first, but its the people behind in the que that suffer, and especially if there running late for thier flight.

We do not make the rules, its the eec airport security we only do our best to implement them, trust me we would prefer that they did not apply at all, but noting should comprimise a travellers security.

sorry if this sounds sharp, its definitly not intended, but I am one of the guys that see both side of the story.

someone also advised that you will get that suntan lotion in the duty free area , and you can get whatever size bottle you require in there , you might ask, how you can buy in the duty free and not allowed to take through security origionally, answer all items on sale in the shops are pre screened by a private company.
Finally hopefully this liquid ban will be removed in 2013 when new equipment being broughht into play, you will then be allowed to bring but we will do random testing to make sure things are safe as possible.
hope than answers your question and again apoligies if anybody out there thinks Im using power that does not exist, Im not into that at all I love to help all travellers on thier way after all its them that really pay my wages
Cheers to all have a great flight
:):):cool::cool::cool:

Babyblessed

pow wow wrote: »

The security at Cork airport are much stricter than at any other airport I've been to in the world - they made me buy a new ziplock bag for my liquids because the wee zipper toggle came off mine as I was closing it. The guy flipped his lid about it no longer being a zip lock bag to the point of ridiculousness.

So if the bottle is above the required size it might just send him completely over the edge :cool:

Interesting! I think Cork are quite relaxed! Stansted are a nightmare and Liverpool crazy and both with huge queues!

I find the staff I have encountered at Cork great, no hassle!

Will say tho to all the ladies; if you have a pandora or similar bracelet, put it in your bag before security! I never used to set of the alarms til I got one!!!!

@Alancadia, keep up the good work we know you are just doing your job!

Daegerty

alanacadia wrote: »

Hello, I work in airport search unit,
150 mils defo not allowed, but nothing stopping you from trying to get it through,
to the person that said hide as much stuff in your bag, thats fine really but what about all the people in the que behind thats held up for an extra 20 mins while we search the bag, sounds good to do it at first, but its the people behind in the que that suffer, and especially if there running late for thier flight.

We do not make the rules, its the eec airport security we only do our best to implement them, trust me we would prefer that they did not apply at all, but noting should comprimise a travellers security.

sorry if this sounds sharp, its definitly not intended, but I am one of the guys that see both side of the story.

I really hate that attitude "We don't make the rules but we'll continue to annoy the living sh1t out of everyone as long as they keep telling us to, and blame it on someone else"

You see the person(s) who makes the rules, where are they? Do they know they're annoying everyone? They seem far detached from reality, there are no consequences to their over cautiousness. Some crowd hands out the rules from abroad, collects their bonus because nothing bad happened that year and to hell with the rest of us who have to put up with it.

Maybe if the queue was held up enough people would realise it's all bullsh1t and an end will be put to it. Osama is dead now but the overregulation and the invasion of privacy rages on.

Finally hopefully this liquid ban will be removed in 2013 when new equipment being broughht into play

Great more invasion of privacy, nudie scanners and worse I presume? The whole thing has put me off flying, that and Ryanair constantly changing their terms and conditions to catch people off guard but thats for another thread. If I need to bring something that is for some stupid reason not allowed I must check in an expensive 30 euro suitcase or buy new.

And whats with the bloody plastic bags? If I bring 100ml of sun cream in a plastic bag or just in a bottle the bag serves no purpose only to bring money to the company supplying the bag and the fella running the machine just outside there where that annoying video is constantly playing.

I know people too who got hassled because the bag wasn't 100% transparent or some crap. It appears like nothing more than getting the people of Europe used to blind compliance so they're easier to control

Babyblessed

Regarding the plastic bag thing... go to any supermarket and you will get 20+bags for around €1. I reuse as much as possible and still have 11 left from over 2 years ago! Most have been replaced cos I emptied and binned then... doh! BTW thats up to 8 ppl travelling to-and-from the UK/Portugal.... reuse/recycle!

(Infact most were prob used by the kids when I ran out of cheap sanger bags!)

leahyl

Hi thanks for all the responses guys! I actually just remembered i got a tweezers through security before when I went to Germany around 2 years ago - nothing was said at either airport. I might just chance it, otherwise my eyebrows will be like I don't know what! Lol!

The suncream thing im not too bothered about - think I'll get it in duty free.

Corkfeen

Daegerty wrote: »

I really hate that attitude "We don't make the rules but we'll continue to annoy the living sh1t out of everyone as long as they keep telling us to, and blame it on someone else"

You see the person(s) who makes the rules, where are they? Do they know they're annoying everyone? They seem far detached from reality, there are no consequences to their over cautiousness. Some crowd hands out the rules from abroad, collects their bonus because nothing bad happened that year and to hell with the rest of us who have to put up with it.

Maybe if the queue was held up enough people would realise it's all bullsh1t and an end will be put to it. Osama is dead now but the overregulation and the invasion of privacy rages on.



Great more invasion of privacy, nudie scanners and worse I presume? The whole thing has put me off flying, that and Ryanair constantly changing their terms and conditions to catch people off guard but thats for another thread. If I need to bring something that is for some stupid reason not allowed I must check in an expensive 30 euro suitcase or buy new.

And whats with the bloody plastic bags? If I bring 100ml of sun cream in a plastic bag or just in a bottle the bag serves no purpose only to bring money to the company supplying the bag and the fella running the machine just outside there where that annoying video is constantly playing.

I know people too who got hassled because the bag wasn't 100% transparent or some crap. It appears like nothing more than getting the people of Europe used to blind compliance so they're easier to control

To give credit to the man. You can't blame him for EU wide regulations that are entirely out of his control.

Daegerty

Corkfeen wrote: »

To give credit to the man. You can't blame him for EU wide regulations that are entirely out of his control.

I suppose we might as well enjoy them while they last, if Greece goes we might be booted out of it soon after

pow wow

Ah I don't have an issue with the regulations, I just find the 'delivery' at Cork has always left a lot to be desired. The zipper toggle snapping off a ziplock bag in front of the guy is hardly something to get excited about but he was teetering on the brink for some time whilst we debated when is a ziplock bag no longer a ziplock bag? I've had all manner of cosmetics drilled into at other airports (stick deodorants at Belfast Intl are a personal fave) but the attitude of the guys doing it has always been ace. I just can't say the same about mr. ziplock and his cohorts at Cork.

murphym7

I have no issues with the regulations either. They are straightforward and easy to follow. I flew every week last year from Cork with work and had no issues. All liquids were under 100ml - I didn't feel the need to have to bring scissors or nail clippers on a 5 day trip. I got to security with the laptop out, belt and watch off, wallet ready with all my liquids in the propper bag (same bag for months). No issue, straight through, everyone happy.

Its not what was said earlier "It appears like nothing more than getting the people of Europe used to blind compliance so they're easier to control"Its not just Europe, same rules apply almost everywhere, in fact I never have been asked to take my shoes off in Cork airport and only once in 50 odd trips was I ever been patted down, and never ever has my bag been opened for a search.

Its quick and easy, as long as people don't be clowns about it.

kub

alanacadia wrote: »

Hello, I work in airport search unit,
150 mils defo not allowed, but nothing stopping you from trying to get it through,
to the person that said hide as much stuff in your bag, thats fine really but what about all the people in the que behind thats held up for an extra 20 mins while we search the bag, sounds good to do it at first, but its the people behind in the que that suffer, and especially if there running late for thier flight.

We do not make the rules, its the eec airport security we only do our best to implement them, trust me we would prefer that they did not apply at all, but noting should comprimise a travellers security.

sorry if this sounds sharp, its definitly not intended, but I am one of the guys that see both side of the story.

someone also advised that you will get that suntan lotion in the duty free area , and you can get whatever size bottle you require in there , you might ask, how you can buy in the duty free and not allowed to take through security origionally, answer all items on sale in the shops are pre screened by a private company.
Finally hopefully this liquid ban will be removed in 2013 when new equipment being broughht into play, you will then be allowed to bring but we will do random testing to make sure things are safe as possible.
hope than answers your question and again apoligies if anybody out there thinks Im using power that does not exist, Im not into that at all I love to help all travellers on thier way after all its them that really pay my wages
Cheers to all have a great flight
:):):cool::cool::cool:

First of all thank you for admitting that you are one of them. Unfortunatly in my humble opinion you have the same type job as a traffic warden or clamper. Mind you at least you have a job and hopefully you will get a proper one in the airport eventually.

Just have a query for you, what happens, honestly now, to all of the property which you lot take from passengers?

Do you lot provide a service whereby once a passanger returns from their holiday can they reclaim what you lot 'took' from them?

And FFS if a passenger is allowed 100 mls of something, then what is stopping 3 or 4 people clubbing together with their liquid and blowing a plane out of the sky with water?????

McGiver woud be proud of that one.

Ludo

kub wrote: »

First of all thank you for admitting that you are one of them. Unfortunatly in my humble opinion you have the same type job as a traffic warden or clamper. Mind you at least you have a job and hopefully you will get a proper one in the airport eventually.

So the jobs you mention are not proper jobs? What now? Should all security at airports be gotten rid of just because you think it isn't a proper job? Maybe then get rid of all the gardai as you might not agree with some laws...that would fun.

What exactly do you do for a living that entitles you to refer to airport security as not being a proper job?

JohnK

kub wrote: »

And FFS if a passenger is allowed 100 mls of something, then what is stopping 3 or 4 people clubbing together with their liquid and blowing a plane out of the sky with water?????

Well for one thing you'd need the 3 or 4 suicide bombers for a single target which makes things a lot harder for plotters than just needing 1 bomber.

kub

Ludo wrote: »

So the jobs you mention are not proper jobs? What now? Should all security at airports be gotten rid of just because you think it isn't a proper job? Maybe then get rid of all the gardai as you might not agree with some laws...that would fun.

What exactly do you do for a living that entitles you to refer to airport security as not being a proper job?

This you will love, I own a security company. I have the upmost respect for The Gardai and the job which these guys have to do.

I just think that a lot of these search people are muppets, I also think that the proper security guards at the airport do a decent job and again I have respect for them.

Ps how exactly do I get the power to get rid of something I do not like?

kub

JohnK wrote: »

Well for one thing you'd need the 3 or 4 suicide bombers for a single target which makes things a lot harder for plotters than just needing 1 bomber.

This is what I do not understand, remember 9/11, there was more than 1 bomber on each plane.

Can anyone please tell me how do you blow up a plane with more than 100 mls of water?

JohnK

kub wrote: »

This is what I do not understand, remember 9/11, there was more than 1 bomber on each plane.

It was reported that only 1 person per plane, the pilot, actually knew it was a suicide mission and the rest just thought they were on some sort of hostage taking hijack or something of that nature.

FBI investigators have officially concluded that 11 of the 19 terrorists who hijacked the aircraft on 11 September did not know they were on a suicide mission, Whitehall intelligence sources said last night.

Unlike the eight 'lead' attackers, who were all trained pilots, they did not leave messages for friends and family indicating they knew their lives were over. None of them had copies of the instructions for prayer and contemplation on the eve of the attacks and for 'opening your chest to God' at the moment of immolation, which FBI agents discovered in the luggage of Mohamed Atta, the man believed to be the hijackers' leader, who flew the first plane to destruction in New York.

It is understood the FBI has found evidence suggesting the 11 men expected to take part in 'conventional' hijackings - with the planes flown to distant airports, and the passengers and crew taken hostage while the hijackers presented demands. Items found among the 11 men's possessions suggest they had been preparing themselves for incarceration. One source said: 'It looks as if they expected they might be going to prison, not paradise.'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/14/terrorism.september111

kub

Fair enough John, that explains that part, whats the story with the quantity of water?

JohnK

My guess is its just a number pulled out of the arse of the gob****e who came up with that annoying ****ing rule

murphym7

Channel 4 did a documentary on the attempted plot to blow up planes with liquids a couple of weeks ago. It went through how al-Qaida got to within a day or two of exectuing a plan of bringing down a load of planes headed from Europe to the US, the plan was to bring down the planes half way accross so rescue would be near impossible. I think ther were talking of something like up to 10 planes.

The UK & USA were able to do tests on these liquid explosives (Peroxide, I think) and determined that under 100ml in any one container would not be effecitve, there would not be enough force from the blast to do anything but injure the bomber and the people sitting immediatly around them.

That is what we are told ----we are told a lot of things.;)

Lustrum

It's gas reading this thread, most Ryanair threads are the same - loads of people complaining about the rules that we all know about, and the rest of them saying "well you knew about the rules before you went to the airport!"

I suppose it comes down to the old question of if there were 2 planes leaving at the same time going to the same place, one of them has a standard (including the 100ml rule) pre-flight security procedures, the other one has absolutely no pre-flight security procedures in place - which one would you take?

parsi

kub wrote: »

Ludo wrote: »

So the jobs you mention are not proper jobs? What now? Should all security at airports be gotten rid of just because you think it isn't a proper job? Maybe then get rid of all the gardai as you might not agree with some laws...that would fun.

What exactly do you do for a living that entitles you to refer to airport security as not being a proper job?

This you will love, I own a security company. I have the upmost respect for The Gardai and the job which these guys have to do.

I just think that a lot of these search people are muppets, I also think that the proper security guards at the airport do a decent job and again I have respect for them.

Ps how exactly do I get the power to get rid of something I do not like?

LOL.

Somebody from the "no white socks allowed here bud" industry complaining about what they perceive as silly rules.

How many cases of assault have been takes against the airport search folk ?

Needler

parsi wrote: »

LOL.

Somebody from the "no white socks allowed here bud" industry complaining about what they perceive as silly rules.

How many cases of assault have been takes against the airport search folk ?

Any hits on google seem to refer to the airport security doing the assaulting not the other way around.

also when a place has a "abuse on our staff won't be tolerated" sign up thats not good. surely if the airport security were all such nice people and salt of the earth lads who are only trying to help they wouldn't receive enough abuse to warrant a sign.

kub

parsi wrote: »

LOL.

Somebody from the "no white socks allowed here bud" industry complaining about what they perceive as silly rules.

How many cases of assault have been takes against the airport search folk ?

Sorry PARSI, you are incorrect, in order to work in the security business I am in, one needs a basic IQ level.

Good comment NEEDLER.