FM104 Phoneshow about Violent Video Games

deathrider

On the phoneshow right now, they are talking about violent video games and their effects on kids. Hit the link and hit 'Listen Live' if you're interest. Should onely be on for about an hour, so get in quick if you want to hear this.

http://www.fm104.ie/

o1s1n

landsleaving

I wonder would it be possible for some sort of database of people who call that show and Joe Duffy to be compiled?

Then we could send all the loons with great ideas for the country and such off to a deserted part of the world to make their utopia, and watch a feed from a safe distance, with some popcorn, as they tear each other to shreds within six hours.

Davei141

A bunch of plants trolling to get real people to ring. Don't bother listening unless you like being trolled by trash radio.

KilOit

Not this sh1te again, get a damn life

o1s1n

KilOit wrote: »

Not this sh1te again, get a damn life

The moment I heard some eejit mention 'da pelleh guns' I immediately turned off.

It's bad enough them having a go at one hobby of mine, but two at once = imminent brain explosion.

landsleaving

o1s1n wrote: »

The moment I heard some eejit mention 'da pelleh guns' I immediately turned off.

It's bad enough them having a go at one hobby of mine, but two at once = imminent brain explosion.

You're a violent lunatic, isn't it obvious!

KilOit

Never really listened to this show but sounds like guests of Jeremy Kyle show ring in to this, just constant swearing and insults at each other.

Captain Chaos

Everyone knows there was no violence or crimes before video games. It's a fact, I should know, I'm a bored taxi driver on a radio show.

deathrider

I also like to watch "hoddar" movies. Just thought I'd throw that in there :pac:

richymcdermott

Cant be as bad as listening to this ****e :pac::pac:
Laughable what your man said at 1:55

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOEUKBQIpjk

Love to see kids copy mk and be trying to do iceballs shooting fireballs from their hands:pac::pac:

Helix

someone ring up and tell them to stop buying 18 rated games for their under 18 kids if theyve got a problem with violence

christ almighty

parents are morons - they wouldnt buy their kids porn, so why do they buy them violent games

Robert ninja

deathrider

richymcdermott wrote: »

Cant be as bad as listening to this ****e :pac::pac:
Laughable what your man said at 1:55

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOEUKBQIpjk

Love to see kids copy mk and be trying to do iceballs shooting fireballs from their hands:pac::pac:

I've seen this clip a few times. Strangely enough, the first time I ever saw MK was on the news (BBC, I think) one morning before going to school... And I was hooked for life!

Don't want the kids seeing violence games? Try not showing fatality moves at about 8am then

Robert ninja wrote: »

This is the best thing I've ever seen

JohnMarston

Do parents buy kids copies of the Saw movies and expect them not to be affected? No. A responsible parent sees the age rating and doesn't buy it for their kid.
When people start cawing about violent video games and their affect on kids, i ask what are they doin buying kids these games clearly meant for adults.
They might argue: "Well these kids buy them without us knowing"
Well ok, when you see them playing these games do you let them or make them turn it off and return it.

Sorry but i needed to say that

Helix

id love to know where the kids buying them without their parents knowing are getting €50 a pop for video games

deathrider

JohnMarston wrote: »

Do parents buy kids copies of the Saw movies and expect them not to be affected? No. A responsible parent sees the age rating and doesn't buy it for their kid.
When people start cawing about violent video games and their affect on kids, i ask what are they doin buying kids these games clearly meant for adults.
They might argue: "Well these kids buy them without us knowing"
Well ok, when you see them playing these games do you let them or make them turn it off and return it.

Sorry but i needed to say that

In fairness, the question that was being raised one the show was exactly that- Why do you buy your kids over 18's video games. And if you had of heard some of the absolute goons that were ringing in, man, there wasn't a stitch of responability between the lot of them.

Kiith

What sort of punishment do shops recieve if they are found selling to minors? I'm not suggesting that it's the fault of the shops that kids are playing violent games, as I firmly believe that this is the fault of the parents most of the time. Just wondering.

deathrider

Kiith wrote: »

What sort of punishment do shops recieve if they are found selling to minors? I'm not suggesting that it's the fault of the shops that kids are playing violent games, as I firmly believe that this is the fault of the parents most of the time. Just wondering.

These parents were buying the games for the kids, so the shops really weren't to blame.

Kiith

deathrider wrote: »

These parents were buying the games for the kids, so the shops really weren't to blame.

And i didn't mean to suggest it was the shops fault (in fact i didn't ), i was just wondering what penalties shops do recieve if they are caught selling to minors.

deathrider

Kiith wrote: »

And i didn't mean to suggest it was the shops fault (in fact i didn't ), i was just wondering what penalties shops do recieve if they are caught selling to minors.

Ah, my mistake so. I don't have an answer to your question though. Hopefully on of the other guys can shed a bit of light on it.

Zombrex

deathrider wrote: »

These parents were buying the games for the kids, so the shops really weren't to blame.

And it is exactly these ignorant parents who would be complaining if little Tommy kills the neighbors cat.

I remember trying in vain to explain to a parent that the rating on the box was age, not "how hard the game is" (as she put it) once when I worked in a retailer. She was having none of it and walked out with some violent game (think it was the Mortal Kombat reboot from about 2002).

A week later storms in demanding to speak to the manager saying that the game was horrible and not fit for her 5 year old and she wanted her money back.

The manager was all apologetic until I came out from the back room. As soon as she saw me she knew the game was up. I politely explained to her and the manager that she had been told the age rating of the game. She made some excuse about it not being made clear to her that this was an age rating.

Manager gave her a refund anyway, I think just to get rid of her.

If those nanny 9/11 programs have thought us anything it is that it isn't societies fault, it isn't video games, it isn't movies it isn't Marilyn Manson.

It is the ***ing parents. It is always the ****ing parents.

deathrider

Wicknight wrote: »

And it is exactly these ignorant parents who would be complaining if little Tommy kills the neighbors cat.

I remember trying in vain to explain to a parent that the rating on the box was age, not "how hard the game is" (as she put it) once when I worked in a retailer. She was having none of it and walked out with some violent game (think it was the Mortal Kombat reboot from about 2002).

A week later storms in demanding to speak to the manager saying that the game was horrible and not fit for her 5 year old and she wanted her money back.

The manager was all apologetic until I came out from the back room. As soon as she saw me she knew the game was up. I politely explained to her and the manager that she had been told the age rating of the game. She made some excuse about it not being made clear to her that this was an age rating.

Manager gave her a refund anyway, I think just to get rid of her.

If those nanny 9/11 programs have thought us anything it is that it isn't societies fault, it isn't video games, it isn't movies it isn't Marilyn Manson.

It is the ***ing parents. It is always the ****ing parents.

Total idiots if you ask me. The MK game (I'm reckoning you are talking about Deadly Aliance) has some of the sickest finishing moves in the entire series (just youtube Cyrax's fatality from that game as a fine example) and is no place for children. There should be some way of reporting th parents who by these games for their kids.

Now I don't have any kids myself, but if I did, there'd be no way in hell I'd let them play games that were out of their age range.

the_syco

Kiith wrote: »

What sort of punishment do shops recieve if they are found selling to minors? I'm not suggesting that it's the fault of the shops that kids are playing violent games, as I firmly believe that this is the fault of the parents most of the time. Just wondering.

I think a video shop can get prosecuted for giving a 12 year old an 18's film, but not for giving them an 18's video game...?

=-=

I've seen more kids performing WWE moves that are on at 11am on a Saturday morning, than anyone trying to copy a MK move. And for the record, if you do the WWE move wrong the victims neck will snap.

deathrider

the_syco wrote: »

I've seen more kids performing WWE moves that are on at 11am on a Saturday morning, than anyone trying to copy a MK move. And for the record, if you do the WWE move wrong the victims neck will snap.

If you do an MK move right the victims neck will also sanp :pac:

krudler

deathrider wrote: »

If you do an MK move right the victims neck will also sanp :pac:

snap, the promptly be torn off and dangled for the cheering crowd to see and amusement of Shao Kahn :pac:

Potential-Monke

Selling an 18s game to a minor carries the same fine as the respective dvd fine, which i don't know what exactly it is, but's it hefty i believe, possibly has 4x0's before the decimal.

I didn't hear this, but i just know it's more of the same ****e.

Helix

wasnt there an issue raised not so long ago that the pegi ratings arent actually legally binding, and are just an actual guideline though?

Grumpypants

In Ireland anyway they are just a guideline although shops are getting strict about it nowadays.

These parents always remind me of Flanders parents and the quote "i've tried nothing and im all out of idea's man "

Dublindude69

Anyone know if its possible to listen to this again?

Trevor451

P.E.G.I in Ireland is not the law. Most stores have it as there store policy not to sell 18+ games to minors though.

I personally think that age ratings are a load of bollix. I have been playing gta since I was around 6 and it has had no effect on me :rolleyes:

Dublindude69

Is it possible to download this and listen to it again?

CORaven

Dublindude69 wrote: »

Is it possible to download this and listen to it again?

echo

The downloads section on their website does not have it afaik, so hopefully someone recorded it.

deathrider

They put a few of their shows up on the site to listen to, but it's very rarely updated.