short layovers

shadowcomplex

Whats the story if one books longhaul flights with skyscanners or cheapflights where there are connecting flights and short layovers? For example I am considering booking a flight from Dublin to Bangkok with SAS airlines, the flight details are



Flight details below

18:50 - 22:00 SK2538 Dublin - Copenhagen (Terminal 3)


Operated by: Scandinavian Airlines Aircraft: MC Donnell Douglas MD-80 All Series

Stop over at: Copenhagen 0:50
22:50 - 14:45 SK973 Copenhagen (Terminal 3) - Bangkok


Operated by: Scandinavian Airlines Aircraft: Airbus Industrie A340-300

As you can see there is only a very short layover of 50 mins, if I book this flight with these travel operators am a guaranteed a later flight if there are delays?

Wats_in_a_name

Yes if its a through ticket. Can't see 50 minutes been to much issue tbh. Ive made far tighter connections including changing terminals etc. Once you have a through tickets its amazing how quickly you can get from one plane to another with the help of airline staff!

FlutterinBantam

Wats_in_a_name wrote: »

Yes if its a through ticket. Can't see 50 minutes been to much issue tbh. Ive made far tighter connections including changing terminals etc. Once you have a through tickets its amazing how quickly you can get from one plane to another with the help of airline staff!

Are you kidding!!!


50 minute connex onto an Intercontinental flight.:eek:

I would see an issue there to be honest, especially if baggage is involved.


The rest is ok but 50 min connex IS an issue

Wats_in_a_name

I can only speak from experience but I had a scheduled 70 minute connection time at JFK when travelling MCO-JFK-DUB with Jet Blue & Aer Lingus. Couldn't get my boarding pass for the DUB flight at MCO. Flight was delayed and we landed 30 minutes before scheduled departure time of the DUB flight. Changed terminals, collected boarding pass, cleared security and got on the plane no problem. Baggage made it too.

Then I had a scheduled connection time in Washington of 40 minutes before no problems. 50 minutes is plenty of time in my experience.

Just saw the flights are the same terminal. Thats plenty of time.

Dacian

In an ideal world 50 mins may well be fine. But aviation is a fickle beast. A simple technical problem/ATC restriction on the first flight could easily mean a delay of 45 mins!

*Kol*

As it is all SAS you will be fine. Especially as it's the same terminal. Even if you miss the flight in Copenhagen they will put you on the next one (the next day) and put you up over night. Your bags will go straight through too so no collecting in Copenhagen and they will issue you a boarding pass for the second flight in Dublin. It could happen that you will make the flight but your bag might not though.

It is tight though. They may even have ground staff waiting for you in Copenhagen to rush you to the second flight.

LXFlyer

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Are you kidding!!!


50 minute connex onto an Intercontinental flight.:eek:

I would see an issue there to be honest, especially if baggage is involved.


The rest is ok but 50 min connex IS an issue

Having flown the late flight to CPH several times, I've noticed that this is a regular connection. The flights tend to be arriving and leaving from gates in close proximity to one another and there is no separation of arriving and departing passengers, so no hassles with security or running around the airport.

Therefore it is literally off one aircraft and straight onto another.

LXFlyer

*Kol* wrote: »

As it is all SAS you will be fine. Especially as it's the same terminal. Even if you miss the flight in Copenhagen they will put you on the next one (the next day) and put you up over night. Your bags will go straight through too so no collecting in Copenhagen and they will issue you a boarding pass for the second flight in Dublin. It could happen that you will make the flight but your bag might not though.

It is tight though. They may even have ground staff waiting for you in Copenhagen to rush you to the second flight.

That tends to be exactly what happens.

drdeadlift

Connecting with lh in either Munich or Frankfurt and you will most likely have a 45 mins gap between flights.
Im on that sas flight tonight!!!!

BuffyBot

The rest is ok but 50 min connex IS an issue

In many airports, yes. In CPH, no. 50 minutes is perfectly fine. I was flying with SAS to Tokyo and due to the flight from Dublin being late I had 20 minutes to connect. I was still waiting at the gate for the Tokyo flight for 10 minutes. Bags made it too.

shadowcomplex

heres an alterative flight, would 1 hr 15 minutes be enough layoverr time for the outbound flight and how do eithad compare to sas

https://www.ebookers.ie/book/bookingpath?execution=e2s1

FlutterinBantam

BuffyBot wrote: »

In many airports, yes. In CPH, no. 50 minutes is perfectly fine. I was flying with SAS to Tokyo and due to the flight from Dublin being late I had 20 minutes to connect. I was still waiting at the gate for the Tokyo flight for 10 minutes. Bags made it too.

Well done SAS, Well done Buffy.

Still contend that a 50 min connection to an intercontinental flight is an issue.

Irrespective of the airport.

Individual experiences may differ, but we need to think about the general outcome which I'm perfectly sure would not reflect those experiences.

BuffyBot

Copenhagen airport would beg to differ: http://www.cph.dk/NR/rdonlyres/4EAF5B25-AC22-4382-BB21-BE12E0E56623/0/guidetocphuk.pdf (PDF file: advises that 45 minutes is the minimum connection time for intercontinental flights at CPH).

Remember, airlines have minimum connection time (MCT) built into their reservation systems, which means flight combinations that don't meet that criteria can't be booked. As flyers from Dublin wouldn't normally have to go through immigration at CPH (arriving from and departing to a non-Shengen destination, that gives even more flexibility with the MCT.

FlutterinBantam

BuffyBot wrote: »

Copenhagen airport would beg to differ: http://www.cph.dk/NR/rdonlyres/4EAF5B25-AC22-4382-BB21-BE12E0E56623/0/guidetocphuk.pdf (PDF file: advises that 45 minutes is the minimum connection time for intercontinental flights at CPH).

Remember, airlines have minimum connection time (MCT) built into their reservation systems, which means flight combinations that don't meet that criteria can't be booked. As flyers from Dublin wouldn't normally have to go through immigration at CPH (arriving from and departing to a non-Shengen destination, that gives even more flexibility with the MCT.

Indeed indeed, yes they can achieve that criterium when thing go well.Such as flight arriving on time, no disruptions at the arrival airport, connecting resources etc in place.

My point is ,and I'm sure you have experience ,that many diverse and different events can conspire to delay a flight by 20 to 30 mins which can throw these tight connecting times into jeopardy.

Simple things like missing passengers with checked in baggage, minor technical problems/Atc congestion/ Airport authority handling agent problems.


Even weather en route and at destination.... too