Questions about range on AEG

dinko4gr

During a skirmish this sunday i came to the conclusion that i may need to increase the range of my G&G GR15-L Raider. The issue hit me when in a long range "friendly" BB exchange my opponents BBs seemed to be flying right by me while mine were having a relatively curved trajectory and trying to hit him felt like attempting a no rim 3pointer shoot. The facts are that up to 15 meters the gun shoots very accurate and in a perfect straight ( i luck more space in the apartment for more accurate observation), the hop-up adjusting control is extremely rigid and im kinda worried not to cause any damage. So here come the questions

1)What range should i be expecting from the AEG out of the box before the gravity starts to kick in and curve the trajectory?

2)What mod can help in increasing the range of the AEG. (I have the feeling that the muzzle velocity is prolly a factor in the range so this sunday that i chrono'ed the AEG it ranged from 285 to 300 (not bad for out of the box i think) so there is a lil room there.

3)Would you suggest that i do the mod myself or perhaps take it to a shop and have it done ( im good with my hands as i used to work as a computer technitian)?


I respect every opinion/suggestion so feel free to fireaway,also any links/videos/how-to are extremely appreciated.

Private Snafu

A nice tight bore barrel (Madbull black python) will increase your effective range. In my experience the stock G&G hopup is fantastic, but if you've had it a while you might be better off replacing it with a Guarder clear or a Madbull blue hopup.

The FPS is fine as is, it will allow you to install a new barrel/hopup combo without needing to worry about going over the limit:)

dinko4gr

lperrozzi wrote: »

A nice tight bore barrel (Madbull black python) will increase your effective range. In my experience the stock G&G hopup is fantastic, but if you've had it a while you might be better off replacing it with a Guarder clear or a Madbull blue hopup.

The FPS is fine as is, it will allow you to install a new barrel/hopup combo without needing to worry about going over the limit:)

i ve the aeg for 3 weeks. my issue with changing the barrel is that i have no experience at all with these things. Would you say its easy for a starter or ill be better off going to the retailer that i bought the gun and have him do the upgrades? Thansk for taking time to reply and ofc for the info

ronan keane

dinko4gr wrote: »

i ve the aeg for 3 weeks. my issue with changing the barrel is that i have no experience at all with these things. Would you say its easy for a starter or ill be better off going to the retailer that i bought the gun and have him do the upgrades? Thansk for taking time to reply and ofc for the info

Changing a barrel is simple even my dad could do it just take off the upper take out the hop-up and barrel take off the hop-up chamber put the rubber on the new barrel and do it again in reverse Simples
:cool:

NakedDex

Adjust your existing hop-up first. Range in airsoft when you're dealing with <1J devices is all about the hop. Tightbore barrels do help, but they contribute more to accuracy.

When you say your rounds are travelling on a curved trajectory, in which direction are they curving? Downward would indicate you simply haven't got enough hop applied, upward would suggest you have too much applied. To either side would point to a misalignment issue between the hop and rubber.

If the unit is a little stiff, take out the barrel and hop assembly (relatively simple procedure) and endure nothing is physically stopping the cogs on the hop unit from turning. If they're free, and you're still getting unsatisfactory results with the hop dialled all the way on, remove the unit from the barrel and check the rubber for damage.
At this stage, you may as well replace the rubber. I prefer Guarder Clear Silicone, where others swear by Madbull Shark Blue. There are other options, but these would be your best, and neither is expensive.

The stock barrel on those rifles are good, but if you want that extra range boost and a big accuracy gain, a tightbore would be a sound investment. Again, plenty of options are out there, but I find Madbull Black Python and Prometheus barrels to be excellent.

dinko4gr

my bbs are traveling at a downward trajectory but the curve seems to be starting at around 15-20 meters aka 45-60ft. what i ve noticed is that noone has given not even a rough number one what the distance should be for a decent out of the box AEG. i understand this could vary greatly depending on too many factors to list all here but would anyone agree that you should be able to hit an average person on the chest at 45meters without compensating for gravity effect? or am i wanting too much out of an assault riffle ?

Firekitten

Stop... Colaborate and Listen... (im with it init)

Dex is right, this sounds like hopup... Any stock aeg should, with ajusted hopup, be pushing 40m with stock parts... 15-20m seems like no hop is on.

if you fear bvreaking it, take a small screw driver, and slightly loosen the screw in the centre of the hopup wheel, This allows more slack, now ajust it till your trajectory is more Level, When you get it right, your effective range should double.

Hopup replacements and new barrels are another kettle of fish.
In general...

Hop rubber and bucking packs... increase range.
Tightbore barrels, increase accuracy.

dinko4gr

Thanks FK thats what i kinda was looking for. Knowing a rough approximate of what range the AEG should be pushing out of-the-box makes it much easier to figure out if its a hop up issue or if i need a upgrade to squeeze a bit more range out of my AEG.

Firekitten

You can do a lot with fps, and range and accuracy without spending a penny... takes a few tricks, some electrical tape, and some PTFE tape. Free, nearly, and darned effective. First port of call before dropping pennies on parts for me.

MonkeyGuy

Firekitten said my main bit about loosening the screw.

If it definitely isn't turning I'd say the gear isn't aligned properly. The teeth don't go the whole way around but it's possible it wasn't put on correctly. Mind you, this is very unlikely, and hopefully isn't the case. If it is, it's still an easy fix.

I know what it's like when you get a brand new gun and you're afraid to push, pull, twist or slide anything too hard in case you break it! :P

Just do as FK said and it should be grand. If she was right, you're actually lucky, slippy hop ups are an annoyance.

Firekitten

MonkeyGuy wrote: »

Just do as FK said and it should be grand. If she was right, you're actually lucky, slippy hop ups are an annoyance.

A, Of course I'm right. I'm always right. :rolleyes:

B, Slippy hopups are a an annoyance till you find a screw driver, then they cease to be annoying.

T4RGET

a stock (especially a G&G) should reach 40-45 metres without a problem, I have a Ultimate hop up and a tighbore in my Raider and is now bordering 60 metres range. to take the hop up out, remove the pin by the rails, next to mag well. The pin does not come out all the way, so be carefull. Then slide the top receiver off. watch out for the charging handle, there is a small spring attached to this and tot he blowback mech. Turn the front half upside and just slide the barral and hop up out. done. if you do take the hop up chamber apart, make sure you don;t loose the hop up bucking etc, they're pretty small. If you're still not confident bring it to a retailer. but like most people are saying it sounss like you're not using the hop up to it's full potential, turn it then fire turn it fire, repeat untill the BB's start flying in an upward curve, then turn it the hop down a bit untill the BB's travel straight for a good bit of distance and then you're done

I know most of this is already posted here but stil.

dinko4gr

Now that u mentioned the blowback. Is it possible to disengage it? And would that do anything to increase the performance of the AEG or is it a complete separate mechanism?

T4RGET

ehm wouldn't advice it, if you do it will decrease the FPS, the blowback is a novelty, try the hop up first, turn it a good bit and get back to us.