Managers Head Called For

Deise Tom

England bow out of another International Tournament, and on Mark Saggers and Mickey Quinn's show on Newstalk they are calling for the head of Stuart Pearce, and want the job to be rotated between Ian Halloway, Brendan whats his face, i think hes at Swansea and some other fellow. The Government are also blamed. When will they learn over there, to stop building up teams in advance of Tournament finals and then there is no need for excuses to be found when they fail to win what ever tourna,ment they are in.

Melion

Pearce has to take some of the blame for persisting in playing players that werent performing. Why was Mancienne starting and captaining for 2 games?

GLaDOS

Bring in Mike Bassett I say

GavRedKing

The starting 11 for the Czech game consisted of EPL players and top Championship players and they just couldnt cut it. Could be down to bad tactics, a few players missing, or arrogance from the players.

The media in England always, without fail big up their stars in all sporting codes, we should be used to it by now, thats jut the way they conduct themselves and then when they fail to perform they rip them apart just as quickly.

Mr. Presentable

OP is right. England don't have the quality players but despite this expect to be world beaters. Inevitably this leads to disappointment and recrimination. The problem lies with clubs whose policy is to buy talent from overseas rather than produce local talent, and to a lesser extent the association which allows youths bought from Italy, for example, to qualify as home grown if they stay for a few years.

everdead.ie

Have to say I do think England have some quality players but I don't think they were set up right and the biggest mistake had to be playing Mancienne. I think they will be fine for the future for some reason they continued to play a long ball approach and funnily both their goals came from wing play I think they need to try and cut that out and when they do they will be fine.

Dozen Wicked Words

The tabloid press in England are a joke. How much interest have they taken in the numerous U21 tournaments England didn't even qualify for, of which there are a few. It was no big deal, so despite being terrible in the actual tournament, so what, who remembers many previous U21 winners? They talk complete and utter populist horsesh*t.

This isn't just English footballers, they build up Celebrities, Politicians and other Sportsmen as high as they can, so they can knock them down with biggest effect. The Sun/News of the World are wetting themselves trying to hang Ryan Giggs.

PHB

England had a pretty good bunch of players there. I blame Pearse entirely for their performance, he couldn't get the system working. This is no surprising considering that he isn't actually that good a manager.

mike65

England FA = sausage machine

Stewart Pearce -

"Once you get your nose in front at that stage of the game you hope to see it out. Credit to the Czechs, they've been very strong in qualification and were very difficult and dogged to break down. We cut them open on several occasions but we didn't have the doggedness to see out the victory."

Er you didn't have the quality to see out victory!

If England want to take the best of the clubs youth they have to have coaching staff who are as good as those at Premier League clubs. England don't.

fkiely

To be fair, in this instance the blame mostly has to rest with Pearce. Tactics, formations, mentality and selections were all wrong for all three games in the tournament. Shocking stuff really.

Fratton Fred

mike65 wrote: »

If England want to take the best of the clubs youth they have to have coaching staff who are as good as those at Premier League clubs. England don't.

No one takes it seriously enough. Least of all the players.

Paully D

If England had any sense they'd have begged Dario Gradi 10 or 15 years ago to take control of youth football. He's not ''one of the boys'' though so would never have been considered.

ctrl-alt-delete

For me England had enough quality there to have a decent shot at the competition. How it panned out was an embarrassment.

It seems that Pearce has created the same problem for himself in picking players to play and then trying to work a system around them. Seems to be the trademark for England at all levels.

Due to the fact Pearce really isn't that good a manager the above problem resulted in the dire performances in the 3 games.

It was a shambles, the team did not look like a unit at all. You are never going to get a decent manager at U-21 level though really, Capello really should have taken charge for that tournament, not that he would have done any better, but at least it would have been of some benefit to all involved.

gimmick

ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »

For me England had enough quality there to have a decent shot at the competition. How it panned out was an embarrassment.

Do they though? I am not convined even slightly that they do. It was Sky telling us that England and Spain are "by some distance the best 2 teams in this tournament". I watched all 3 of Englands games and they were clueless. The tactics were awful it has to be said, but there was no England player truly stood up to be counted. The only 2 who impressed me were Wellbeck and the full back whoe name escapes me (he got the assist for their goal against Spain).

I'd say Liverpool must be purring over their €20m investment on Henderson.

Dont be at yourself

The quality's there, but they shouldn't have been bullied by the clubs over Wilshire and Carroll.

The most successful teams at the moment: Spain, Netherlands, Germany, Brazil. They all have an ingrained footballing philosophy that's spread right down the age ranks, and they have excellent relationships with the clubs and players.

England can't even go three games in a tournament without ripping up the blueprint and starting again.

mike65

gimmick wrote: »

I'd say Liverpool must be purring over their €20m investment on Henderson.

Jasus are you MookieB? (some may get that)

doncarlos

We should send them Don Givens for a year or two.

LuckyLloyd

The center halves, the goalkeeper, the right back and Daniel Sturridge up front all stood out during their games. Henderson (and all of their midfielders really) did not. England lacked creativity in a huge way, they spent far too much time slowly moving the ball along the back line / deep lying midfielder. Tactics take some of the blame for that, but I do think the players used may not have had it in them to take the games by the scruff of the neck. The Czechs were not the athletic equal of England, but they had much more cut and thrust when in possession in the final third.

All that being said and accepted, when you go 1 - 0 up with 10 minutes to go not qualifying is an utter disgrace. The problem there is something that is all too evident in English teams down through the years - they lack the big heart in the crunch moments. They have an image of themselves as dogged and obdurate but it doesn't stack up to their actual performances time and time again.

As such, you end up with an athletically superior, technically average and mentally lacking squad. Same old England, not quite good enough.

flahavaj

The main thing they lacked, which is the same thing the senior team have lacked for some time was someone to control the tempo of the game from midfield. The central midfielders they brought looked utterly incapable of doing so. They should've brought along Mc Eachran from Chelsea in the absence of Wilshire.

LuckyLloyd

flahavaj wrote: »

The main thing they lacked, which is the same thing the senior team have lacked for some time was someone to control the tempo of the game from midfield. The central midfielders they brought looked utterly incapable of doing so. They should've brought along Mc Eachran from Chelsea in the absence of Wilshire.

Agree, Henderson was frightfully ineffective during the three games imo. Himself and Muamba in there last night were not fit for purpose (i.e. taking the game to the opposition).

aidan24326

All the evidence suggests that Stuart Pearce is a poor coach. I'm surprised he's still there tbh. At last year's World Cup there was rumblings that a number of the England players were less than impressed with him. He will never manage at the top level.

TheBuilder

He's on the verge of a new 2 year deal according to BBC.

Its time the English media accepted that they're not good enough, once again they over-hyped their "stars" and failed miserably. Inflated price tag does not equal good footballer!

G.K.

How Lansbury and Albrighton got as much game time as they did amazes me. Should have done a lot more.

ctrl-alt-delete

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Agree, Henderson was frightfully ineffective during the three games imo. Himself and Muamba in there last night were not fit for purpose (i.e. taking the game to the opposition).

Jones and Smalling done a better job of taking the game to the opposition, you could tell they were frustrated at the lack of intent and creativity ahead of them, and also with the amount of times the ball was being tapped back to them!

Paully D

TheBuilder wrote: »

He's on the verge of a new 2 year deal according to BBC.

He must have some very incriminating photos of the FA chairman.

daithijjj

The problem for england is that the team is full of 'individuals'. The problem in midfield was because everybody ahead of them was ball watching and not moving to the man in possession. They were barely even making runs at all. All that was left for them to do was be speculative. You can see from this that Henderson is annoyed at nobody making any effort ahead of him.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/jordan-henderson-1st-half-performance-czech-republic-11316986/

The manager hasnt a clue either which doesnt help.