Is someone with a disability pass entitled to cheaper motor tax?

Run_to_da_hills

My old man (88yo) has recently acquired a blue disability pass which entitles him to park in disabled bays, is he entitled to a cheaper motor tax rate?

-Corkie-

He gets it for free if he can get the relevant medical cert.

Also entitled to VRT and VAT rebate on a brand new car.

Gumbo

-Corkie- wrote: »

He gets it for free.

Also entitled to VRT and VAT rebate on a brand new car.

can they get reduced VRT on importing a second hand car?

Lenny

-Corkie- wrote: »

He gets it for free.

Also entitled to VRT and VAT rebate on a brand new car.

can anyone with a blue pass get free motor tax?

-Corkie-

Lenny wrote: »

can anyone with a blue pass get free motor tax?

99% sure yes. Vectra will know for sure.

Lenny

-Corkie- wrote: »

99% sure yes. Vectra will know for sure.

that'll be great news if it is, my mother got a pass there 12-18 months ago, she kept it quiet about it!
the free tax would be a bonus for her.

Mister Jingles

Lenny wrote: »

can anyone with a blue pass get free motor tax?

Yes but there's some paper work to do before hand, sending off log book ect ect. Not too up on the details but my own mother has it.

colm_mcm

It's the primary medical cert you need to get free tax.

PMC also required to get disabled parking card

Parking card doesn't get you the free tax as such, its an eu thing.

Run_to_da_hills

Old man just paid e580 last week, he should be entitled to a refund if he produces the card.

vectra

That blue card is strictly for Parking.
it has nothing to do with the free tax and vrt.vat reduction.

You need to aquire a Primary Medical cert for that.
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Lenny

I had a look at citizens advice and from what I gathered there the blue pass was only for parking

mp22

You must have a primary medical cert to get the vrt and vat off a car.

have a read here http://www.ddai.ie/

-Corkie-

vectra wrote: »

That blue card is strictly for Parking.
it has nothing to do with the free tax and vrt.vat reduction.

You need to aquire a Primary Medical cert for that.
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I knew you knew all the details on it. Arent they changing the criteria for getting one soon. I heard it on County sound a few weeks ago, seemingly a lot of people were getting them that werent entitled to them.

vectra

-Corkie- wrote: »

I knew you knew all the details on it. Arent they changing the criteria for getting one soon. I heard it on County sound a few weeks ago, seemingly a lot of people were getting them that werent entitled to them.

Cheers

And yes, You are correct,
They are getting stricter on who gets them. I think in fact a primary medical cert will be required to obtaining a new one. Current holders of them will continue to get them.

They are also changing the rules of parking with them,
There will be certain spaces strictly for wheelchair bound people and other spaces for non-wheelchair vehicles parking
On top of this there will be a time limit on parking in these spots.

-Corkie-

-Corkie- wrote: »

......... seemingly a lot of people were getting them that werent entitled to them.

Very very very true.

Armadillo

It's another system that is open to abuse. I know of two people whose parents avail of the pmc scheme yet don't drive but their cars are being used full time by the son\daughter as named drivers. These are not small cars either.

soccerc

OP, no parking permit alone as others have posted does not exempt one form Motor Tax.

The Blue Badge parking scheme is changing and not before time. The abuse of the system was endemic and in reality all you needed was a GP to certify you were in need of one.

Under the old scheme up to 1 June I personally could have qualified in my own right despite no problems with mobility.

Mrs has a PMC and we avail of the vrt/vat rebate every two years and are exempt from motor tax.

Hopefully the new criteria will be monitored and enforced, there's nothing as anger inducing when you're searching for a wheelchair accessible space* and find they are all occupied, some by valid permit holders, some by permit issued to another while others by ignorant ppl who like the spot close to the door or entrance.

*not all disabled parking bays are wheelchair accessible or suitable for a passenger with a wheelchair.

As for Primary Medical Certs, to have one issued you need to pass very stringent criteria which leave the certifiying medical officer no discretion.

vectra

soccerc wrote: »

Mrs has a PMC and we avail of the vrt/vat rebate every two years and are exempt from motor tax.

I assume you are aware of the excise duty rebate on fuel and you are availing of it?

mickdw

Its a disgrace the number of cars being bought VAT & VRT free with the PMC scheme. Its a fantastic scheme for those who are genuine cases but as someone said previously, young able bodied people are the permanent users of these cars in many cases with adaptations being removed too in alot of cases.
All it seems to take now is that you would have an elderly grandparent who might qualify for PMC then suddenly the young person gets the car VAT & VRT free. This is all well and good if that elderly person needs the use of a car for some good reason such as medical treatment or whatever but in too many cases (all the cases I know of locally) the old person never sits in the car and in one case Ive seen an old person turn up to a wedding in another family car (without modification) with the young guy turning up in his heavily subsidised car alone after leaving the same house. Makes me sick the whole thing.

soccerc

mickdw wrote: »

Its a disgrace the number of cars being bought VAT & VRT free with the PMC scheme. Its a fantastic scheme for those who are genuine cases but as someone said previously, young able bodied people are the permanent users of these cars in many cases with adaptations being removed too in alot of cases.
All it seems to take now is that you would have an elderly grandparent who might qualify for PMC then suddenly the young person gets the car VAT & VRT free. This is all well and good if that elderly person needs the use of a car for some good reason such as medical treatment or whatever but in too many cases (all the cases I know of locally) the old person never sits in the car and in one case Ive seen an old person turn up to a wedding in another family car (without modification) with the young guy turning up in his heavily subsidised car alone after leaving the same house. Makes me sick the whole thing.

You've brought this up before.

If you are 100% certain that the vehicle was purchased under the scheme then report it to Revenue.

The PMC scheme is not like the Parking Permit scheme in that the medical criteria are strict and restrictive and offer no discretion to the Medical Officer certifying the applicant.

I am aware of many who have failed to get a PMC, people who were in National Rehabilitation Hospital at same time as mrs and who you'd expect to qualify, but they didn't. Just because you are old doesn't mean you qualify.

pbarr

Armadillo wrote: »

It's another system that is open to abuse. I know of two people whose parents avail of the pmc scheme yet don't drive but their cars are being used full time by the son\daughter as named drivers. These are not small cars either.

No wonder they are not small cars. They can claim back just over € 15000 in vat/vrt on the cost of a new car if they are the disabled passenger.
Agreed its it has been abused but I think they are tightening up on it now..hopefully

http://motabilityireland.com/fundingandgrants.asp gives details

EDIT: And I know of somebody who is claiming it as a passenger and who can drive ok just to get the extra vat/vrt as you only get max € 9500 if you are the driver.He is driving around in the 2nd car at the moment. Makes my blood boil as this person got the swivel passenger seat then took it out and sold it.

Cookie_Monster

what's the rationale behind free motor tax the, I don't get it.

The VAT/VRT issue is fair enough, these often have to be specially modified or specced cars to allow people to cope despite the disability but what has yearly tax got to do with anything?

vectra

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

what's the rationale behind free motor tax the, I don't get it.

The VAT/VRT issue is fair enough, these often have to be specially modified or specced cars to allow people to cope despite the disability but what has yearly tax got to do with anything?

I assume the purpose of this is because these cars are more often than not used to transport the person for treatment at Dr. or Hospitals etc.
Also gives them some quality of life not having to scrape the price of road tax as well as trying to pay for the car.

Could be wrong. I never questioned it