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Move back to android? why?

  • 17-06-2011 9:51am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,570 ✭✭✭✭


    First off im not an apple fanboy, that said over the past 12-14 months ive found myself with an iphone 4, ipad and apple tv! the iphone 3gs was my first apple product.

    Before that i changed phones every 5-6 months, had a ton of nokia symbians back on the day, WM6, and a few earlier androids, most notable the HTC hero.

    What im wondering now is, what do the current batch of android superphones (Galaxy S II specificially i spose) offer me over the iphone 4, what can an android phone do that im restricted from on an iphone?

    what im looking for is a reason to change :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭elderlemon


    Don't. I always say that if people have a lot of Apple kit then there is no reason to switch to Android. Yes Android is more flexible and more configurable but usually not enough to make someone who's invested in an apple infrastructure to jump.

    EDIT: BTW I am an Android fanboy. Have had the hero, desire, desire z and now the SGII!
    Cyrus wrote: »
    First off im not an apple fanboy, that said over the past 12-14 months ive found myself with an iphone 4, ipad and apple tv! the iphone 3gs was my first apple product.

    Before that i changed phones every 5-6 months, had a ton of nokia symbians back on the day, WM6, and a few earlier androids, most notable the HTC hero.

    What im wondering now is, what do the current batch of android superphones (Galaxy S II specificially i spose) offer me over the iphone 4, what can an android phone do that im restricted from on an iphone?

    what im looking for is a reason to change :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭Tea 1000


    Use bluetooth for something other than an accessory for a start! Like sending pics from one phone to another without using your MMS! Download YouTube vids, or convert them to MP3... that sort of thing. View websites with Flash is another excellent feature...
    The rest I'll tell you when my Sensation arrives. Currently on iPhone 4, and growing tired of the restrictions. Like you the 3GS was my first Apple, and I'm not a fanboy either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,914 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I switched to Android almost 2 months ago and kind of regretting it to be honest. There is a lot more freedom with Androids, but also more complications. I much prefer the simplicity of the iPhone to be honest. In your case though, I'd agree with elderlemon that you might be better off sticking with iPhone, particularly if you have AppleTV


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,015 ✭✭✭Ludo


    Barrington wrote: »
    I switched to Android almost 2 months ago and kind of regretting it to be honest. There is a lot more freedom with Androids, but also more complications. I much prefer the simplicity of the iPhone to be honest.

    What complications out of curiosity? I have had 2 androids now but never had an iPhone. I always hear people say androids are more complicated but never understand what they mean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭eoferrall


    Ludo wrote: »
    What complications out of curiosity? I have had 2 androids now but never had an iPhone. I always hear people say androids are more complicated but never understand what they mean.

    more options and ways of doing something. ie more choice = more complicated!;)

    iphone, this is how you do it

    Android, you could do it like this or this or you can use this...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,830 ✭✭✭unklerosco


    Ludo wrote: »
    What complications out of curiosity? I have had 2 androids now but never had an iPhone. I always hear people say androids are more complicated but never understand what they mean.

    I've had an iphone since launch (got my first one in the states).. Moved to android about 3 months ago. Had a HTC desire..

    Things that bugged me, HTC sense was nowhere near as user friendly as ios. (Keyboard and dialer drove me mad), I know u can change these but thats when things start to get messy. I rooted the phone and ran cynagen.. It was great but phone kept crashing, constant restarts etc. drove me mad..
    Also, the battery live was crap, barely got a day.. Tried loads of tricks to get it to last longer, none really worked.. Iphone used to last 2 days at least on a single charge.. Last of all, HTC camera was pants..

    In saying all that, I've now got a Samsung Galaxy 2 and it is a completely different experiance.. Mainly because they've copied apple.. So much easier to use that the desire. Phenomenal screen, great camera, 2 days on a single charge. It just works! I think that's where iPhones have the upper hand, they do just work.. rarely do they crash etc. and they are very limited in what you can do but they do what they do well..

    Android, out of the box can be frustrating.. Like the iphone u need to root it and run mods etc to get the best out of it. In essence it's similar to jailbreaking the iphone to get the best of it..

    As for the OP, I've an apple TV, iPad, iMac and Macbook... And using an android phone..It all depends on how and what u use your apple gear for. I'm not mad into apps, I use my phone mainly for email and calendar functions etc. As I use gmail for near everything android works well for me as gmail ties in great with the phone..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,570 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    cheers lads

    im happy enough on the iphone tbh, i just wanted to make sure i wasnt missing something

    my ipad would be perfect if it did flash, its the only thing i miss


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,914 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Ludo wrote: »
    What complications out of curiosity? I have had 2 androids now but never had an iPhone. I always hear people say androids are more complicated but never understand what they mean.

    Well, a small example would be when I installed Swiftkey. It was fine for a while, but then it was acting funny (can't really remember why now). But I was searching in the phone keyboard settings menu and the SwiftKey settings menu, changing loads of settings to try fix it, and couldn't figure it out. Turns out I had to hold my finger on a text field to bring up a smaller menu to change the input settings, even though I thought I'd already done that in the menu.

    Also, it took me ages to figure out where my pictures and some other files were stored on the memory card

    More customisation and options makes things more complicated. Not overly complicated, and I'm sure it's great when you know what you're doing. I just preferred the simplicity of the iPhone. And like others, I'm not an Apple fanboy. Itunes annoys the living hell out of me sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭Dr. Loon


    Barrington wrote: »
    Well, a small example would be when I installed Swiftkey. It was fine for a while, but then it was acting funny (can't really remember why now). But I was searching in the phone keyboard settings menu and the SwiftKey settings menu, changing loads of settings to try fix it, and couldn't figure it out. Turns out I had to hold my finger on a text field to bring up a smaller menu to change the input settings, even though I thought I'd already done that in the menu.

    Also, it took me ages to figure out where my pictures and some other files were stored on the memory card

    More customisation and options makes things more complicated. Not overly complicated, and I'm sure it's great when you know what you're doing. I just preferred the simplicity of the iPhone. And like others, I'm not an Apple fanboy. Itunes annoys the living hell out of me sometimes.

    Yeah, knowing what you're doing tends to help alright.
    This all seems very simple to me. Get what you like... if you're happy with an iPhone and its simplicity and its restrictions, why bother changing? If you're into customisation and don't mind a little troubleshooting, go with Android. This fanboy stuff is nonsense. Use what you like.

    As can clearly be inferred from Barrington's post, if you don't know what you're doing, then RTFM! Whether it's an iPhone or an Android phone or any single other piece of technology that exists!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭mickoneill30


    elderlemon wrote: »
    Don't. I always say that if people have a lot of Apple kit then there is no reason to switch to Android. Yes Android is more flexible and more configurable but usually not enough to make someone who's invested in an apple infrastructure to jump.

    EDIT: BTW I am an Android fanboy. Have had the hero, desire, desire z and now the SGII!

    +1 to that. I work in IT and I've moved a few guys from iPhones to Android phones (they were having connectivity issues with the iPhones). For their work the Android phones are fine but I've had to listen to whinging.

    It's not that IOS is better but a user gets used to doing something one way. Then when they move to another way they have to relearn the stuff and they get frustrated when it doesn't work the same. My boss (not too technical) is one of my users I've moved. I gave him no support on his iPhone and he had plenty of problems so he got an Android so I'd support him and because I was always slagging him when he couldn't do stuff I could.
    Now, because I sit near him I explain each problem or difference as he has them and he loves his phone now. But the users I don't sit near or see very often I hear anecdotal reports every so often of how they hate their phones and how the iPhone was better. A lot of these issues are just users not knowing how to do stuff.

    Ironically because of the messing about we've had, any phones we buy for users in future will be BlackBerrys. All we need is a phone that can be used as a phone, send texts and receive emails. The BlackBerrys do that and little else. I know they do more but none of our users ever know how to do the fancier stuff on BlackBerrys.

    So if you're happy with your phone and you've no major reason to move, stick with what you know.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Viper_JB


    If you're into your handsets though I gotta say the SGSII is best on the current market by far, the screen is simply brillant, the Andriod OS is what it is though, you're either going to love it or hate it, personally I like my gadgets and the ability to configure a phone to my needs/wants exactly that's why I like andriod and really dislike IOS that + all the proprietary crap that apple peddles at every given opertunity really irks me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,914 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Dr. Loon wrote: »
    Yeah, knowing what you're doing tends to help alright.
    This all seems very simple to me. Get what you like... if you're happy with an iPhone and its simplicity and its restrictions, why bother changing? If you're into customisation and don't mind a little troubleshooting, go with Android. This fanboy stuff is nonsense. Use what you like.

    As can clearly be inferred from Barrington's post, if you don't know what you're doing, then RTFM! Whether it's an iPhone or an Android phone or any single other piece of technology that exists!

    I wouldn't say it's a case of knowing what you're doing, more a case of "Do I want to do it?". Do I want to figure it out and do it, or would I prefer a simpler option?

    iOS is also much easier for some of the things I'd use the most like podcasts, comic books, and it's easier to buy apps without the need for a credit card by using code vouchers.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭mickoneill30


    Barrington wrote: »
    I wouldn't say it's a case of knowing what you're doing, more a case of "Do I want to do it?". Do I want to figure it out and do it, or would I prefer a simpler option?

    iOS is also much easier for some of the things I'd use the most like podcasts, comic books, and it's easier to buy apps without the need for a credit card by using code vouchers.

    Isn't that all about learning though. For me (an Android user) Android is much easier for some of the things I want to use like podcasts and books. I'm used to it, like you're used to IOS. If you gave me an iPhone today I'd have to figure it out like you say above. To me the Android is the simpler option.

    It doesn't mean either platform is better, you just get used to your platform and then it "seems" easy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,914 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Well obviously, the more you learn how to use something, the easier it becomes. What I'm saying is, it's easier to learn how to use the iPhone than an Android phone. I've had this phone for 2 months, my third smartphone, and so far I've found the iPhone to be the best for what I want. I'm sure if I spent a bit of time learning how to do A and B, that'd be fine. My point is, I myself only really need to do A.

    And that's what I mean about iPhone vs Android: You can do a lot more with the Android, but do you need to?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭mickoneill30


    Barrington wrote: »
    Well obviously, the more you learn how to use something, the easier it becomes. What I'm saying is, it's easier to learn how to use the iPhone than an Android phone. I've had this phone for 2 months, my third smartphone, and so far I've found the iPhone to be the best for what I want. I'm sure if I spent a bit of time learning how to do A and B, that'd be fine. My point is, I myself only really need to do A.

    So... it's easier because it can do less :D
    That's kind of damning with faint praise.

    Nah, only joking. I think that out of the box the iPhone and the Android phones can do pretty much the same amount of stuff. If you don't want to fiddle with the options and extra programs for an Android you don't have to. My missus has an Android and uses it for the web and for phone calls, texts, some music and games. I don't see how it's any easier or more complicated to learn that stuff on an iPhone. She doesn't know or care what else the phone can do, it works fine for her. Probably most users are like that. She can't use my phone as I've customised the hell out of it (no rooting required) but that's fine for me.

    If it works don't bother changing for no reason. If you have a reason that's a different story.


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