Junior Cert 2011: MUSIC

FunkyOxygen

Wednesday 22nd June 2011.
Morning 9:30 - 11:30

Haven't seen this mentioned so decided to post! I'm dreading it i know f*** all and I don't even know my general study! I'm basically going to have to learn 3 years in 2 days as I'm away this weekend! I LOVE triads and backing chords though

fitzall

Anyone have any inclinations as to which set work will come up? And what choice song / work?

ohdechertig

If I had to guess, I'd pick Granuaile. It hasn't come up since 96.

Karl96

DREADING this exam! theres just too much to learn!:(

anirishlad

Karl96 wrote: »

DREADING this exam! theres just too much to learn!:(

I'd say theres very little to learn compared to other exams

scipsss

i am DREADING the dictation by the time it has been played 5 times i still dont have half it done :/irish music can be bit of a bollix too.. chords triads and general study FTW

elaine309

I'm dreading it .still can't wait......:)

elaine309

Sorry didn't neem I can't wait I don't want to do the
F***en ting .

cantanstrophe

I think I'm pretty much sorted, except for set and choice songs. GS, easy, just learn off a few paragraphs. Dictation I'm actually OK at. Triads and chords... Choice works, grand. Set works, need a bit of revision, but ho hum.

OsamaObama321

What is most likely to be for the essay??

d.a.r.r.a.g.h

OsamaObama321 wrote: »

What is most likely to be for the essay??

If that's the general study you're referring to, usually the same thing every year or a slight variation.

One possibility is that they'll ask you to give a background to your general study. This could be by means of a review for a magazine or something, but the same information is always required.

The other possibility is that they'll ask you to point out two or three features common in your general study, and make a comment about them, referring to songs you have studied.

Pretty easy couple of marks if you learn of your notes.

hurleyhead15

Looking forward t music (last exam b4 summer! ) dictation is gna b grand so is the g.s. what are ye doing? theres just the matter now of learning my set works and choice songs! only bit I'm not looking forward t is irish music especially the d part!

Siobhan1112

does anyone have the chosen songs? i lost mine, i really hope chosen songs doesn't come up, i've never even looked at them

OsamaObama321

Ok does any1 do backing chords? Something like imperfect cadence is at bar 4 and perfect is at 8.... Wdf do they mean?!!!

Siobhan1112

OsamaObama321 wrote: »

Ok does any1 do backing chords? Something like imperfect cadence is at bar 4 and perfect is at 8.... Wdf do they mean?!!!

at the end there is always either a perfect or plagal cadence. you have to write your scale and label the chords I-VIII. Perfect cadence means it will go from chord V - I. Plagal goes from chord IV-I, you have to work out which one it is depending on the notes in the bar below it. sometimes there are other cadences in the piece, but not all the time. I don't really understand it, mostly i just make it up

scipsss

OsamaObama321 wrote: »

Ok does any1 do backing chords? Something like imperfect cadence is at bar 4 and perfect is at 8.... Wdf do they mean?!!!

backing chords are very easy

yellowsky169

I think chosen songs will come up:) Hoping the part d in irish music will be alright... chieftains ftw!!

3llenw

Does any1 have any ideas wat set works and set songs also set songs and choice songs myt b coming up And for ethnic music in general study would the voice, percussion and guitar be good enough for the answers

Scuab

Can someone please tell me the titles of the like headigs for choice works?
For example "themes and variations", But i don't know what else!

Karl96

anirishlad wrote: »

I'd say theres very little to learn compared to other exams

Ah now theres all the set songs and works and choice songs and works and general study and irish music! thats a brave bita stuff to be learned like! i didnt have this much to learn for other subjects!

Karl96

anyone know what l'arlésienne means? and what suite means?

FunkyOxygen

Chosen songs i would say are due up as if you look at previous set c's it goes Chosen songs,chosen songs,chosen works,chosen works,chosen songs - so i would guess chosen songs are up.

As for set works if you look back the two that are due are Granuaile (ripples in the rockpool) and L'arlesienne 2nd movement. DON'T BOTHER learning the spring four seasons both have come up recently so I would highly doubt they would come up

If anyone needs help with backing chords let me know as I was in the same situation for ages until it finally clicked!!

yellowsky169

Karl96 wrote: »

anyone know what l'arlésienne means? and what suite means?

I THINK l'arlesienne means the woman from Arles and I'm almost sure suite is a piece of music written for a soloist with accompaniment from an orchestra:)

musicjc

im so confused for this exam does anyone know any website for music? i have the 'bravo' book and it has all out songs in it for choice songs there is like 14 heading and a different song for each do i need to know each one? and do i need to know choice songs and set song and choice works and set works? what are all these i dont understand at all in total there like 32 song to learn that my friend highlighted? do we really need to know all these songs? and what do we have to know about them? im so screwed

OsamaObama321

What is modal music and contrapuntal style??

scipsss

musicjc wrote: »

im so confused for this exam does anyone know any website for music? i have the 'bravo' book and it has all out songs in it for choice songs there is like 14 heading and a different song for each do i need to know each one? and do i need to know choice songs and set song and choice works and set works? what are all these i dont understand at all in total there like 32 song to learn that my friend highlighted? do we really need to know all these songs? and what do we have to know about them? im so screwed

l'arsienne means the woman of arles
ok we need to know like 8 set songs in detail , for example preab san ol and caro mio ben
we also need to knopw 3 set works in detail, for example ripples in the rockpool
we need to know like 6 or 7 choice songs and works but you only need to know like 2 or three points about them so not much detail
you should look through your exam papers for choice songs and works q 5

scipsss

OsamaObama321 wrote: »

What is modal music and contrapuntal style??

contrapuntal style is when they combine the two main melodys , for example they do that in farandole, l'arsienne suite with the carol and farandole tune
and i thought a suite is a number of dance movements ?

ohdechertig

A suite is a collection of dances or songs.

chatterboxxx95

As previously said, contrapuntal is the combination of two main melodies, also known as counterpoint and it has a polyphonic texture
Suite is a collection of dances from the music of a play/performance etc.:D

p.s. if anyone knows can they please tell me why does the composer use changing time signatures in "Ripples in the Rockpools":o all we were told is that its a feature of modern music and then that came up in the mocks and i gt 0 for writing that!:(
Help appreciated!:):D

ohdechertig

chatterboxxx95 wrote: »

As previously said, contrapuntal is the combination of two main melodies, also known as counterpoint and it has a polyphonic texture
Suite is a collection of dances from the music of a play/performance etc.:D

p.s. if anyone knows can they please tell me why does the composer use changing time signatures in "Ripples in the Rockpools":o all we were told is that its a feature of modern music and then that came up in the mocks and i gt 0 for writing that!:(
Help appreciated!:):D

The changing time signatures are used to emphasize the tension in Grace O'Malley's life. It gives the piece a more restless mood and doesn't let it settle, I think.

chatterboxxx95

ohdechertig wrote: »

The changing time signatures are used to emphasize the tension in Grace O'Malley's life. It gives the piece a more restless mood and doesn't let it settle, I think.

Thank you so, so much!:D:pac:

anirishlad

Cant believe YNWA came up :L

fudgecakes

that was easy enough right? except apparently she moved through the fair is a love song and not a lament, even though its about his dead fiance?

Karl96

Not a bad wee exam!! happy enough with it grauaile came up:D:D happy days:) was the only one i knew!!! irish music question on the performance was rough! didnt like that hi!
ah well JC over now!! bring on the summer :D

scipsss

pretty easy must i saw id say thats my best exam. for q1 part D did u all get the first song ? think i got full marks
and q2 about what ripples is the rockpool was based on what was the answer to that ?
irish music was meh i panicked about D at the start but just ended up bull****ting bout michael flately and river dance.
q4 dictation was okay tbh thought it could have been much worse
q5 a was good as i learned it off the rest was well i dont really no at this point
q6 triads were simple as usual i should get full marks
q7 was ok never really no with them tbh
q8 chords easy again full marks id say
q10 had it all learnt off so was great ecpect ful marks on this
so all in all i could be in line for an A if im lucky

OsamaObama321

What did people do for the Irish Music Essay Q? I did 'Come Out Ye Black An Tans' just for the crack coz I hadn't a clue what to write.....

scipsss

OsamaObama321 wrote: »

What did people do for the Irish Music Essay Q? I did 'Come Out Ye Black An Tans' just for the crack coz I hadn't a clue what to write.....

haha noice one mate

fitzall

Grand auld paper. What did everyone put down for features of plainchant? I said plainchant features a free rhythm and is unaccompanied.

Eoin_Sheehy

fitzall wrote:

Grand auld paper. What did everyone put down for features of plainchant? I said plainchant features a free rhythm and is unaccompanied.

Ya unaccompanied or monophonic would be fine.

scipsss

Eoin_Sheehy wrote: »

Ya unaccompanied or monophonic would be fine.

i said square notes and 4 lines on stave is that right ?

jwcurtin

3D, what did we write about? A good few left it blank in my year. I put down Galway Girl (a ballad) performed by Sharon Shannon? Any marks :L

chatterboxxx95

yea, q3D was pretty rough, i'm slightly relieved that our yr wasnt the only one who had no idea!!
^whoever said michael flately and riverdance, class!!:L why couldnt i think of that!!:O:L:L:L I ended up bulls**ting on about sean nos singing even though i made no reference to a specific performance! so annoyed caus we didnt even do all the info about irish music properly, we were given a list of things we should be able to write about and told dt the info was in our book:/ ah well, whats done is done:rolleyes:

by the way, what did everyone get for the type of dance in 3a, i was confused whether it was a reel or a hornpipe and what type of band was playing for 3c, ceili, pipe or something else or something else?:D
:L i swear i did so bad in q3!:/

was so annoyed by that paper in bits, I got an A in the mock and now I'm terrified i'm gonna drop down a grade because I messed up my practical too, i ended up singing with basically no voice as i had laryngitis a couple of days before it!:(

yellowsky169

I said a jig but I always guess them:o I said mo ghile mear for 3d because its one of my chosen songs and then I just described pieces of sean nos singing For the last bit of q1 was it song 1,2 or3? I'm usually good at them but I couldn't get it!! I was between 1 and 2, chose 1 in the end. Oh, and who wrote Streets Of London??:)

Eoin_Sheehy

scipsss wrote: »

i said square notes and 4 lines on stave is that right ?

Doesn't really, but you might get away with it, depends on the marking scheme, whether they go easy or mark it hard.

Karl96

yellowsky169 wrote: »

I said a jig but I always guess them:o I said mo ghile mear for 3d because its one of my chosen songs and then I just described pieces of sean nos singing For the last bit of q1 was it song 1,2 or3? I'm usually good at them but I couldn't get it!! I was between 1 and 2, chose 1 in the end. Oh, and who wrote Streets Of London??:)

I said a hornpipe i think and i wrote about sean nós singing and mo ghile mear for q.3d as well!! i picked 2 for the last part of q.1 preab san ól i think! ralph mctell wrote streets of london

Karl96

chatterboxxx95 wrote: »

yea, q3D was pretty rough, i'm slightly relieved that our yr wasnt the only one who had no idea!!
^whoever said michael flately and riverdance, class!!:L why couldnt i think of that!!:O:L:L:L I ended up bulls**ting on about sean nos singing even though i made no reference to a specific performance! so annoyed caus we didnt even do all the info about irish music properly, we were given a list of things we should be able to write about and told dt the info was in our book:/ ah well, whats done is done:rolleyes:

by the way, what did everyone get for the type of dance in 3a, i was confused whether it was a reel or a hornpipe and what type of band was playing for 3c, ceili, pipe or something else or something else?:D
:L i swear i did so bad in q3!:/

was so annoyed by that paper in bits, I got an A in the mock and now I'm terrified i'm gonna drop down a grade because I messed up my practical too, i ended up singing with basically no voice as i had laryngitis a couple of days before it!:(

I did sean nos as well
for q.3 i think it was a hornpipe and a ceili band

chatterboxxx95

Karl96 wrote: »

I did sean nos as well
for q.3 i think it was a hornpipe and a ceili band

Haha yea, loadsa people wrote sean nos!
Rite,:L i wrote hornpipe but i circled thr reel rhythm pattern caud i was sure it was one of them and eiyher eay i get some marks!
Yeah, i really wasn't sure about that band because usually ceili bands hav a stronger bass line to help dancers keep the beat, anf i couldn't hear one in that so i wrote pipe band!:rolleyes::rolleyes:

scipsss

chatterboxxx95 wrote: »

Haha yea, loadsa people wrote sean nos!
Rite,:L i wrote hornpipe but i circled thr reel rhythm pattern caud i was sure it was one of them and eiyher eay i get some marks!
Yeah, i really wasn't sure about that band because usually ceili bands hav a stronger bass line to help dancers keep the beat, anf i couldn't hear one in that so i wrote pipe band!:rolleyes::rolleyes:

whats a pipe band btw ?

chatterboxxx95

scipsss wrote: »

whats a pipe band btw ?

Eh i'm not fully sure, but i thought it might of been kind of like the bands that march in parades that have pipes, drums accordians and other instruments!:L