My parcel Handed to customs for 4 days

nur diana

hi, i would to ask anybody in this room that has similar problem with mine? I bought some fake branded bags/ purses from one supplier in China. Luckily, after taking so much time by dealing, she posted it on last friday. She gave me tracking no so I can track them in EMS website. On Sunday, the parcel was being handed to Changsha customs and if I am not mistaken, now already 4 days. I have contacted the supplier by email and ym but there was no action. She keep telling me to wait 1-3days and update the EMS website.

Here is my tracking data:
EE588305105CN




　 　 Your item was handed over to Customs(CHANGSHA) at 2011-06-12 17:45:32



　
Timing Site Status 　 2011-06-11 18:00:00 CHANGSHA Posting 　 18:02:45 CHANGSHA Arrival at Sorting Center 　 18:13:40 CHANGSHA Despatch from Sorting Center 　 2011-06-12 17:42:31 CHANGSHA Arrival at Sorting Center 　 2011-06-12 17:45:32 CHANGSHA Handed over to Customs

jor el

They have been confiscated by customs because what you've done is illegal. If not by Chinese export customs, then Irish customs would confiscate them anyway. It is illegal to import/export counterfeit products.

nur diana

I see,so it is either one country customs..i have contacted her and I told her if the parcel is stuck until this week, she do not have to re-ship the parcel but She need to refund. It is too late and my customers was so mad.. They want their money back..

Bartyman

I've often bought stuff from China and it can spend a couple of days in customs, once it clears there, it's like its cleared for Ireland as well, when in lands in Portlaois, its nearly always delivered next day.

I had once parcel checked by Irish Customs, and that also took a couple of days.

You also need to bear in mind public holidays in China.

And not all stuff from China is cheap knock-off.

nur diana

Okay, now I learn something new.. I'm so worried because another parcel from different supplier already arrive on 15th and this one require me to collect at my country custom- which is okay for me to find out it was here. In my mind they will arrive in same date because both of them post in the same day. Now, for the parcel at china custom, the supplier told me to wait another three days or she will re-ship them but I insist her to return back monies because my customers end up boring keep waiting. It is a lot for me $157.. Right now, I am waiting another three days or simply to say A week!

tallaghtoutlaws

Bartyman wrote: »

I've often bought stuff from China and it can spend a couple of days in customs, once it clears there, it's like its cleared for Ireland as well, when in lands in Portlaois, its nearly always delivered next day.

I had once parcel checked by Irish Customs, and that also took a couple of days.

You also need to bear in mind public holidays in China.

And not all stuff from China is cheap knock-off.

Customs are tightening up on counterfeit products and to be honest the OP's stuff will most likely be stopped in customs and found to be fake and most likely confiscated and destroyed. These days you would be among the a lucky few who have managed to get counterfeit products through customs. Serves people right in my mind if they buy fakes.

BengaLover

nur diana wrote: »

I see,so it is either one country customs..i have contacted her and I told her if the parcel is stuck until this week, she do not have to re-ship the parcel but She need to refund. It is too late and my customers was so mad.. They want their money back..

So you are buying fake items from China and reselling them? Thats kinda illegal...

The Lovely Muffin

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Customs are tightening up on counterfeit products and to be honest the OP's stuff will most likely be stopped in customs and found to be fake and most likely confiscated and destroyed. These days you would be among the a lucky few who have managed to get counterfeit products through customs. Serves people right in my mind if they buy fakes.

+1 to this.

BengaLover wrote: »

So you are buying fake items from China and reselling them? Thats kinda illegal...

It is illegal, there's nothing 'kinda illegal' about it, it is 100% illegal.

Keep us updated OP, I'd be interested to know if the items arrive to you of it they are confiscated and destroyed by customs.

harr

you will lucky if customs don't pay a visit to your house op,a old school friend of me was doing this with watches from china buying 10 or so at a time and selling them on classified ad web pages he got a pretty big fine and all his computer stuff was taken.I know you don't state in your post if that is what you are at but i wont go looking for your stuff from the Irish customs i would leave well enough alone and lesson learnt.

tallaghtoutlaws

harr wrote: »

you will lucky if customs don't pay a visit to your house op,a old school friend of me was doing this with watches from china buying 10 or so at a time and selling them on classified ad web pages he got a pretty big fine and all his computer stuff was taken.I know you don't state in your post if that is what you are at but i wont go looking for your stuff from the Irish customs i would leave well enough alone and lesson learnt.

This is very true op if customs notice a pattern of fake merchandise being sent to you in bulk they could look to take further action against you. As harr says don't push the issue. If customs destroy your first order I wouldn't bother getting a second sent to be honest because customs will most likely have your address on record as well as your name and the next box in could be enough to push them to visit you to make sure you aren't re-selling fake merchadise which is highly illegal.

jenniferd1

I have bought fake mac make up and Tiffany jewelry all shipped from china by EMS.. Never had a problem.. I never knew it was fake until i had later seen a review of the website..
It can be so easy to buy counterfeit items and not know..
You have to be so careful.

tallaghtoutlaws

jenniferd1 wrote: »

I have bought fake mac make up and Tiffany jewelry all shipped from china by EMS.. Never had a problem.. I never knew it was fake until i had later seen a review of the website..
It can be so easy to buy counterfeit items and not know..
You have to be so careful.

To be fair the price is usually the telling factor. The original brands would never sell their products below a certain price and depending where in the world you buy them there is always a suitable mark up by said brands making them a lot dearer than the counterfeits.

diana85

I have recently bought a bag on ioffer coming from China. It is a fake, but I bought it because of the style not what it says on it.

So anyway, just yesterday I got a Revenue letter from customs that the bag has been seized etc etc.. On the back of the letter it says that I can make a claim against their decision within a month. Anyone else had this experience, what's the best approach to take now?

Thanks,

Diana

testicle

diana85 wrote: »

I have recently bought a bag on ioffer coming from China. It is a fake, but I bought it because of the style not what it says on it.

So anyway, just yesterday I got a Revenue letter from customs that the bag has been seized etc etc.. On the back of the letter it says that I can make a claim against their decision within a month. Anyone else had this experience, what's the best approach to take now?

Thanks,

Diana

Say goodbye to your bag and your money.

diana85

testicle wrote: »

Say goodbye to your bag and your money.

Any point in making a claim to them?

BengaLover

NO..you bought a couterfeit item, production and sale of said is ILLEGAL and the item will be destroyed.
Interestlingly but off topic, the large and 100% kosher website 'strawberrynet' got done for selling fake Mac makeup.
Here's how to tell the real deal:

Badgermonkey

diana85 wrote: »

Any point in making a claim to them?

On what basis?

diana85

BengaLover wrote: »

NO..you bought a couterfeit item, production and sale of said is ILLEGAL and the item will be destroyed.
Interestlingly but off topic, the large and 100% kosher website 'strawberrynet' got done for selling fake Mac makeup.
Here's how to tell the real deal:

That's very good to know about strawberry net, and understandable about cosmetics since God knows what they put in them etc. However, a bag? The system is highly skewed by the looks of it, that some people get away with whole packages for re selling goods, and this was one bag, and they had to stick their noses in and open it. Total wasters!

si_guru

diana85 wrote: »

and they had to stick their noses in and open it. Total wasters!

Customs?

If you worked in a shop you would not have that attitude.

diana85

si_guru wrote: »

diana85 wrote: »

and they had to stick their noses in and open it. Total wasters!

Customs?

If you worked in a shop you would not have that attitude.

Shame on your for your own attitude! Where is the logic? Why do people reply for the sake of it and not in reply to my post? Another waster!

Nody

diana85 wrote: »

That's very good to know about strawberry net, and understandable about cosmetics since God knows what they put in them etc. However, a bag? The system is highly skewed by the looks of it, that some people get away with whole packages for re selling goods, and this was one bag, and they had to stick their noses in and open it. Total wasters!

You're complaining that they are upholding the law; it is like speaking to the police who's fining you for speeding and complaining that everyone else speeds more then you do so why should you get fined?

Because you broke the law, that is why. It does not matter if others does it more then you, if they are caught they will be fined as well, what matters is that you broke it and you got caught.

si_guru

diana85 wrote: »

Shame on your for your own attitude! Where is the logic? Why do people reply for the sake of it and not in reply to my post? Another waster!

Okay. Sorry you are right.


btw....this is your post.

"I tried to buy illegal goods then import them illegally. Now I am upset and pretending I didn't know unusually cheap branded goods bought over the internet from China could possibly be illegal. Also I think it it is not fair that I got caught doing this by the government officials actually employed to catch people like me - How can I get my money back?"

tallaghtoutlaws

diana85 wrote: »

That's very good to know about strawberry net, and understandable about cosmetics since God knows what they put in them etc. However, a bag? The system is highly skewed by the looks of it, that some people get away with whole packages for re selling goods, and this was one bag, and they had to stick their noses in and open it. Total wasters!

You bought fake products which are illegal. Ireland is one of the softest countries for dealing with counterfeits. You are lucky that Irish customs just confiscate and destroy. Other countries customs will throw you a fine for your troubles even if it is 1 bag.

As for people getting away with it? the system is never going to be perfect. Manpower and quantities of good arriving into the country would be two of the main reasons why so many get away with it. But in the last 12 months especially customs have stepped up their bid to stamp out counterfeit merchandise.

Oh and don't appeal their decision. If you do you will need to prove to them that it is not counterfeit which will involve the brand who's bag was copied in the first place. And lets just say you wont win.

allthedoyles

All you can do is accept the out-come

celticthor

diana85 wrote: »

That's very good to know about strawberry net, and understandable about cosmetics since God knows what they put in them etc. However, a bag? The system is highly skewed by the looks of it, that some people get away with whole packages for re selling goods, and this was one bag, and they had to stick their noses in and open it. Total wasters!

You do realise the people who make the fake products are criminal gangs who also are involved with drugs, guns and god knows what else......

jor el

diana85 wrote: »

Shame on your for your own attitude! Where is the logic? Why do people reply for the sake of it and not in reply to my post? Another waster!

Calm down with the attitude. You are the one attempting to break the law, and knowingly doing so too. Don't blame others for calling you out on it.

Counterfeit goods cost the industry, and the tax payers, millions of euro every year. That money has to be made up in some way. The industry makes it up by charging us more for products, and the tax man makes up for it by increasing other taxes.

celticthor

jor el wrote: »

Calm down with the attitude. You are the one attempting to break the law, and knowingly doing so too. Don't blame others for calling you out on it.

Counterfeit goods cost the industry, and the tax payers, millions of euro every year. That money has to be made up in some way. The industry makes it up by charging us more for products, and the tax man makes up for it by increasing other taxes.

Excelent point! Somebody just hates reality! Hope your little brush with customs teaches you a lesson!!!

Chopins11th

jor el wrote: »

They have been confiscated by customs because what you've done is illegal. If not by Chinese export customs, then Irish customs would confiscate them anyway. It is illegal to import/export counterfeit products.

Because of the sheer volume of packages arriving daily, both sides, the Chinese and the Destination country Randomly inspect packages and inspect suspicious looking packages. Some have dogs that are run up and down the aisles to sniff out drugs etc. But by no means does one have to do with the other. They are two separate entities and have their own rules each. There would be a waiting list til Christmas if it were February when your shipper sent your package if they attempted to inspect every package, lol. Sorry, but this was a random search or a suspicious looking package. Luck of the draw.
Additionally, if it is seized in Ireland, customs WILL send a letter of the seizure, it's contents, the reason for the seizure, and further instruction on how to obtain your articles legally if there is a way and right to do so. They generally give you 30 days to respond, in order to CLAIM your goods after proving you are allowed to keep them. After which, (they claim) the items will be destroyed. (lol, they go to one of the worker's, and/or their family members, lol). It's a dream job for those that work in customs, as they often take many things that they wish. Sad but true. There is a big reason why I know this. However, I did NOT participate in the acquisition of someone else's unfortunate seizure. And I say "unfortunate" because although this may be a case of "knock off" products, the Chinese are purveyors of all things made abroad. Stop buying from them, especially America and they would not be such a super power with a shaky trigger finger. Look at anything purchased for RETAIL price from your local super sized store and you'll find China stamped on it. The folks that make the original NAME BRAND items you speak of.... about 85-90% of them have them assembled or even wholly made in China....EVEN WHEN THEY SAY MADE IN FRANCE, MADE IN ITALY ETC ETC ETC. Don't believe me, do some investigative work if you're good with the net. Nike for example, lol. They've come round to admitting that even in the earlier stages, they weren't made in the U.S. Much more, not enough time to type. If you have a seizure on your end, in your country and receive the letter, ignore it. DO NOT ANSWER IT. RE-ORDER, it will get to you. Even at the same address as it is a MYTH that they FLAG an address unless it involves municipalities that handle drugs. Then and only then will they or may they PERHAPS let an order through to follow it to it's claimant to ....have a few WORDS with them.
ADVICE: China as you know has a few people living in it. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS find a seller that GUARANTEES delivery. For every product you find that you wish to acquire, that exact product has 100's of senders that will 100% guarantee delivery. Should it be seized, they will re-send FREE of charge. Their reputation depends on it. And the most successful and prosperous companies ALL offer this guarantee and back it up 100% Tracking is part of THEIR job, and good companies over there KNOW BEFORE YOU DO that the article has been taken by customs and will send a replacement same day as to not add to the waiting period. They CAN see past their noses and are in business to make money for the long run.
HAPPY ORDERING!

ps: Also in regards to: It is illegal to import/export counterfeit products.[/QUOTE] - You are wrong in making a blanket statement like that. That is ABSOLUTELY FALSE. There are many variables in this matter, type of labeling, products cannot patent all things on a product as well. You can find many loopholes and the answers to your question of is THIS knock off item legal or not? It all depends on the original. Did they patent what, where, internationally, etc. It's not hard to figure out. There are many swap mart type places that in PLAIN VIEW sell knock off's. Do you think it's because they are not afraid of the law? No, they've done their homework. Please people, bite your tongues when making such HUGE BLANKET STATEMENTS ABOUT LAWS YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF OR LITTLE, BY WAY OF WORD OF MOUTH ETC. THIS CAN GREATLY EFFECT THOSE THAT ASPIRE TO MAKE A LIVING IN CERTAIN "LEGAL" WAYS, HAVING BEEN SCARED OFF BY SOMEONE MAKING A BLANKET STATEMENT, IE; "KNOCK OFF ARTICLES ARE TOTALLY ILLEGAL AND YOU CAN BE ARRESTED AND IMPRISONED" SHAME ON YOU! CITE YOUR SOURCES WHEN YOU MAKE SUCH STATEMENTS, AND CITE THE LAW, PUT UP A LINK. People, do your OWN research instead of listening such large claims. Learn to sort through those that shoot off at the mouth, don't shy away from a possible living. I don't see any of those on this thread that have worked or claimed to have worked at customs like I have, nor that are on their way to becoming lawyers in their last year (or already are lawyers). Please err on the side of caution when you MAKE A BLANKET STATEMENT LESS YOU KNOW IT AS FACT AND KNOW THE LAW(S) INVOLVED. FURTHER, SHOW ME A LAW THAT ENCUMBERS A WHOLE MATTER WITH ONE SENTENCE OR ONE THAT CAN BE CONDENSED INTO ONE SENTENCE BY A POSTER HERE. I'M ALL EYES. THEY ARE HARD TO FIND. THAT'S WHY THEY ARE OFTEN 100+ PAGES LONG.
MAY YOU PROSPER AND GROW EVER WISER AND SELF EDUCATE INSTEAD OF TAKING ANY ONE PERSON'S WORD, INCLUDING MINE.

Celeron Media

You do realise the people who make the fake products are criminal gangs who also are involved with drugs, guns and god knows what else......

That's a load of bollocks. Don't believe what RTE tell you. In China, piracy laws are not enforced just like many other countries. So you have the ordinary hard working person, working these factories and it's a normal job to them and there just providing for their family. It's difficult for Irish people to wrap their heads around this because it's a different culture & society to what we consider normal and tolerated. But I guarantee you, if Ireland didn't enforce piracy most of the work force & revenue would come from these factories. And I wouldn't be guilty of calling these hard working Irish people criminal gangs involved with guns & drugs and what else if that was the situation.

But too answer the forum question regarding importing counterfeit goods, the goods will pass the Chinese customs as piracy is not enforced in China but you will have a problem when the goods are in a state were it is enforced. And regarding the appeal, more than likely the good will be destroyed but you can try a long shot of asking for the branding to be removed.

SWIGMYSTER1

MY PACKAGE LEFT CROATIA 24TH OCT, SINCE THEN NO INFORMATION MY TRACKING NO IS <SNIP> ITS GIONG TO REP OF IRE ITS NOW 09/11 THATS A LONG TIME OR IS IT? STEVE

nava

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