Astra 1N footprint -

liamtech

Just nicked this of DS! Looks good for ireland - the whole of ireland i would say!

http://www.ses-astra.com/business/en/extranet/blog-astra-1n/index.php

Minstrel27

I am sure it will be filled with encrypted channels.

Isnt this just the longterm replacement for Sky TV?

Its there new direct spot sats that will focus mainly on the intended area, which means black outs for the Spanish Sky fans.

Mayo Exile

Minstrel27 wrote: »

I am sure it will be filled with encrypted channels.

FTV channels such as 5 USA and 5* may move on to 1N and become FTA.

Minstrel27

Mayo Exile wrote: »

FTV channels such as 5 USA and 5* may move on to 1N and become FTA.

We will see.

Mayo Exile

Due for launch on July 1 according to this thread over on DS.

lawhec

Minstrel27 wrote: »

We will see.

For the long term, the main UK terrestrial channels will be looking for additional capacity on satellites with such footprints. The main one is HD, the main progression for BBC1 HD will if it follows the BBC's digital satellite development from the late 90's will be to have BBC1 HD variations for the "national regions" (Scotland, Wales & NI) with the eventual goal of all regions converted to HD and the SD streams switched off when the amount of SD viewers becomes tiny, though that won't be for some years yet. It'll also give the BBC room to upgrade HD services of other channels especially those with no regional variations.

For ITV, for SD transmissions they can enable more regions to broadcast FTA (some can only do so behind encryption at the moment due to lack of space on 2D) as well as an increase in HD transmissions - UTV HD may then appear.

Channel 4, their current Eurobird based FTA HD channel will probably move to a 2D-like beam in due course when capacity becomes available. Again, E4 HD may become possible when the current encryption contract ends. Film4 HD and More4 HD are potential channels as well in the future.

Channel 5 (if they're bothered) could also move their fleet of channels over and drop encryption, HD etc.

There is the possibility of encrypted channels on 1N as well, but I would guess the UK terrestrial channels will be looking to get first digs.

lawhec

lawhec wrote: »

For the long term, the main UK terrestrial channels will be looking for additional capacity on satellites with such footprints. The main one is HD, the main progression for BBC1 HD will if it follows the BBC's digital satellite development from the late 90's will be to have BBC1 HD variations for the "national regions" (Scotland, Wales & NI) with the eventual goal of all regions converted to HD and the SD streams switched off when the amount of SD viewers becomes tiny, though that won't be for some years yet. It'll also give the BBC room to upgrade HD services of other channels especially those with no regional variations.

For ITV, for SD transmissions they can enable more regions to broadcast FTA (some can only do so behind encryption at the moment due to lack of space on 2D) as well as an increase in HD transmissions - UTV HD may then appear.

Channel 4, their current Eurobird based FTA HD channel will probably move to a 2D-like beam in due course when capacity becomes available. Again, E4 HD may become possible when the current encryption contract ends. Film4 HD and More4 HD are potential channels as well in the future.

Channel 5 (if they're bothered) could also move their fleet of channels over and drop encryption, HD etc.

There is the possibility of encrypted channels on 1N as well, but I would guess the UK terrestrial channels will be looking to get first digs.

i presume that when its intrim mission is completed at 28.2 and its moved to 19.2 that a replacement will be already in place or does anyone know what the story is in that regard?

The Cush

warlikedave wrote: »

i presume that when its intrim mission is completed at 28.2 and its moved to 19.2 that a replacement will be already in place or does anyone know what the story is in that regard?

ASTRA 2F, Q4 2012

ASTRA 2E, Q2 2013

ASTRA 2G, Q1 2014

http://www.ses.com/ses/siteSections/services/satellitefleet/upcoming-launches/index.php

The Cush

The Cush wrote: »

ASTRA 2F, Q4 2012

ASTRA 2E, Q2 2013

ASTRA 2G, Q1 2014

http://www.ses.com/ses/siteSections/services/satellitefleet/upcoming-launches/index.php

cheers for that Didnt realise that more sats were planned for 28.2 than 19.2 especially considering the number of countries reliant on 19.2e in comparison to 28.2e

montgolfiere

warlikedave wrote: »

cheers for that Didnt realise that more sats were planned for 28.2 than 19.2 especially considering the number of countries reliant on 19.2e in comparison to 28.2e

they are replacements for the 'ageing' existing 'Birds'.. but will also give more capacity and maybe more 'focussed' coverage....a worry to us expats on the edges of the existing reception!!!:mad:
the Skyman

montgolfiere

montgolfiere wrote: »

they are replacements for the 'ageing' existing 'Birds'.. but will also give more capacity and maybe more 'focussed' coverage....a worry to us expats on the edges of the existing reception!!!:mad:
the Skyman

more focused beams and those multipe hotspot sats that will be used for saorsat seem to be the way that its going indeed....utter shame considering the nice broad mix you get on astra 19.2 not to mind 28.2

warlikedave

warlikedave wrote: »

cheers for that Didnt realise that more sats were planned for 28.2 than 19.2 especially considering the number of countries reliant on 19.2e in comparison to 28.2e

These would be to replace the current satellites. Astra 2A is bordering on 13 years old with a planned life of 15 years. 2B is also designed for 15 years.

2D on the other hand has a design lifetime of 12 years and was launched in December 2000. It's also expected to lose one transponder at some point, probably due to degradation of the solar arrays. So replacements are needed, lets hope the launches don't fail!

Apogee

Astra 19E

11023MHz, H, 22000, 5/6

Apogee

Apogee wrote: »

Astra 19E

11023MHz, H, 22000, 5/6

Did a scan myself

6 channels found:

3d tile format
AB Channel
ASTRA 1N Launch - showing the 1n launch vehicle at the moment on the launchpad itself
ASTRA 3D Demo
Radio Beograd
RTS Sat

Bit wierd that my scanner didnt pick this up before anyways

Didnt realise that they show launches - looks like it has been delayed due to weather tho

It is on hold but not due to weather, a problem was found with a valve. The countdown stopped around the 5 minute mark.

Launch aborted. :eek:

Karsini

Karsini wrote: »

Launch aborted. :eek:

Did you see a message? I switched channel - was testing out my sat signal on another TP

An announcement was made that they haven't identified the cause so will not try again tonight. A statement will be made tomorrow morning.

The Cush

Karsini wrote: »

It is on hold but not due to weather, a problem was found with a valve. The countdown stopped around the 5 minute mark.

Was watching the countdown, it was stopped at 1:47 mins because of a valve-failed-to-close indication, the clock was then reset to 7:00 mins.

The Cush

Footprint comparison

Astra 1N


Astra 2D

It was always going to be a tighter footprint with the way that satellite technology and tv rights are going. Cheers for providing a comparison here.

excollier

They are still a little optimistic on dish sizes though.

The Cush

Possible 3 week launch delay according to this post over in the DS forum - http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?p=51180986#post51180986

The Cush

From Digitalspy - http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?p=51552940#post51552940

Possible new launch date - 3rd August according to http://www.satlaunch.net/2011/07/new-date-for-astra-1n-bsat-3cjcsat-110r.html

ASTRA 1N launch channel up on Astra 1KR - 11023H 22000 5/6 http://en.kingofsat.net/sat-astra1kr.php

Nothing official from Arianespace yet - http://www.arianespace.com/news/mission-status.asp

The Cush

Arianespace launch date confirmed - Friday 05 August at 10:53 p.m.

Arianespace Flight VA203; Ariane 5 ECA – ASTRA 1N – BSAT-3c/JCSAT-110R: Liftoff is scheduled for Friday 5 August 2011
Evry, July 28, 2011

The reconfiguration work and the checkouts on the Ariane 5 ECA launcher are now complete. Arianespace has decided to resume the operations for Flight VA203, Ariane 5 ECA – ASTRA 1N – BSAT-3c/JCSAT-110R.

Liftoff of the Ariane 5 ECA launcher is now scheduled for:

Friday 05 August at 06:53 p.m., local time in Kourou, French Guiana,
Friday 05 August at 05:53 p.m. in Washington D.C.,
Friday 05 August at 21:53 UTC,
Friday 05 August at 11:53 p.m. in Paris,
Saturday 06 August at 06:53 a.m. in Tokyo.

http://www.arianespace.com/news-press-release/2011/7-28-2011-VA203-launch-date.asp

Mission Update - http://www.arianespace.com/news-mission-update/2011/824.asp

The Cush

Launch postponed due to weather conditions.

Arianespace Flight VA203; Ariane 5 ECA – ASTRA 1N – BSAT-3c/JCSAT-110R: Launch postponed
Kourou, August 5, 2011

The launch of Arianespace Flight 203 has been postponed due to the unfavourable weather conditions over the launch pad in Kourou, French Guiana. Flight 203 will place into geostationary transfer orbit the ASTRA 1N and BSAT-3c/JCSAT-110R telecommunications satellites.

Another launch date will be decided depending on the evolution of the weather conditions in Kourou.

http://www.arianespace.com/news-press-release/2011/8-5-2011-V203-postponed.asp

According to the Arianespace iPhone app and VideoCorner they're trying again tonight. Webcast starts at 2138 UTC (2238 Irish time).

1N successfully launched!

The launch was delayed by about an hour due to high altitude winds and it was looking like it wouldn't go ahead but luckily the weather cleared up.

Sattje

I'm quite surprised: The original footprint can't be correct.


According to this footprint no reception in North East Holland with a 60 cm dish. 2011-10-31 started Astra 1N on transponder 11127 V with Channel 4 HD, but reception here in NE Holland is much better than ever...

Minstrel27

I wouldn't take any notice of those footprints. Most of western Europe had Astra 2D reception even though it was supposed to be a UK & Ireland satellite.