Exam compensation?

Maybe_Memories

I'm in JF Maths, and my result is down as "Not Qualified to Proceed".
Out of 11 modules I failed 4.
I don't know what I got in each module yet but is it still possible to compensate or are your results given with compensations already taken into consideration?

Thanks!

amacachi

They'd already be taken into account I'd assume. Since you can only compensate in modules worth a total of 10 credits I also assume that those 4 failed modules add up to more than that so you can't compensate. On the plus side though you may only have to pass 2/4 in the repeats.

EDIT: It may vary from course to course but in Science you have to get 35 in a subject to compensate so if you fail one badly you can't compensate.

Aoibheann

AFAIK, "Not Qualified To Proceed" implies you got 40+ overall percentage-wise, but were unable to compensate for whatever modules you failed (generally if you didn't get 35+ in a particular module, or perhaps not achieving the required number of credits to compensate - I think it's more than 10 credits in some courses, afaik you need to pass 40 credits in Maths to be able to compensate anyway).

EDIT: In order to pass at the annual or supplemental examination students must (a) attain a mark of at least 35 per cent in each module, (b) attain a mark of at least 40 percent in modules totalling at least 40 credits, and (c) must also attain an overall mark of at least 40 per cent. The overall mark is calculated as a credit-weighted average of the results of the individual modules. <- From the Maths dept site.

Maybe_Memories

I passed 40 credits so I should be able to compensate, if I got 35+ in the ones I failed, shouldn't I?

Aoibheann

Yes, but that should already have been taken into account with your grade as it is. If they've listed you as having subjects to repeat, I'm fairly sure it's because you couldn't compensate them i.e. you would have got less than 35.

Maybe_Memories

Okay thanks.

One last question: if you repeat a module, is it graded solely on the repeat exam or is the course work still taken into consideration?
Or is this something that varies from department to department and lecturer to lecturer?

Aoibheann

I think it's based solely on the repeat exam, but it'd probably be worth asking your lecturers to be sure. If you have any questions about any of the particular modules, feel free to ask - I haven't done all of the first year maths ones (I was in TP for a year and a half) but I might be able to help.

Maybe_Memories

Thank you!

amacachi

In science I've been told it's still the combination of exam + CA.

Aoibheann

The good thing about a lot of the maths courses is that your grade is the maximum of exam (weighted at 100%) OR exam weighted at whatever (say 80%) + assignments weighted at whatever the remainder (say 20%), so it just doesn't come into play for a lot of the courses.

Maybe_Memories

I emailed the lecturer for the module where it does apply.
His response was "I'm not sure." :rolleyes:

Aoibheann

May I ask which lecturer it was? PM if you'd rather not say, I might have an idea how it'll work or I might be able to find out! I'll try anyway.

dabh

Aoibheann wrote: »

May I ask which lecturer it was? PM if you'd rather not say, I might have an idea how it'll work or I might be able to find out! I'll try anyway.

If Maths adopts the same approach as last year, those Maths and TP students who are required to sit supplementals in mathematics can expect to receive further information in due course about what will be required of them, and what may be provided to assist them in preparing for the supplemental examination. But these things will need to be thought through and arrangements made. In the meantime, students who have not passed might do well to check their College email (the @tcd.ie account). Exam breakdowns are currently being circulated.

Aoibheann

Breakdowns were very quick this year actually, was delighted to see them so soon after!

Maybe_Memories

Um, I got 36% in one of the ones I failed.
Shouldn't I be able to compensate?

Jehuty42

Maybe_Memories wrote: »

Um, I got 36% in one of the ones I failed.
Shouldn't I be able to compensate?

You can only compensate for one course. If you failed four courses, you're going to have to do repeats.

Maybe_Memories

Jehuty42 wrote: »

You can only compensate for one course. If you failed four courses, you're going to have to do repeats.

Yeah shouldn't I be able to compensate for that one?

tabouli

That's not how it works. If you've gotten less than 35 in one you haven't satisfied the criteria for passing the year and won't be able to compensate for any of your courses.

dabh

@Maybe_Memories Boards.ie is perhaps not the best place to enquire about these sorts of things, especially as the regulations differ from course to course.

IvyTheTerrible

Maybe get on to your tutor?

FloatingVoter

dabh wrote: »

@Maybe_Memories Boards.ie is perhaps not the best place to enquire about these sorts of things, especially as the regulations differ from course to course.

This is the truth. You don't need opinions, you need facts.

dabh

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Maybe get on to your tutor?

As mentioned previously, JF and SF Mathematics students can expect to be informed by the School in due course of the arrangements regarding supplemental papers. If that is not soon enough, then I would suggest approaching the Head of School. (There is no tutor based within the School of Mathematics, and it is unlikely that tutors from outside that School would be familiar with the details of examination procedures for Mathematics.)

spotsanddots

if you are compensated it says so on the results in first yr i failed one of my chemistry's but passed everything else so i was award a IIIC (III by Comp)