Newbie Questions (2)!

everlast75

Hey all,

New to Airsoft and had a couple of quick questions for the experts.


1) I bought the "ASG (JG) G36C" last week and wanted to know of any mods that would be recommended straight away that might enhance the performance of the gun? A review mentioned upgraded hop-up and tightbore barrell?

2) I want a reliable and accurate sidearm. I love the style of the hi-capa dragon 5.1, but have read excellent reviews of the MEU 1911. I heard the Beretta is also a contender.


Any advice?

Cheers!

Dread-Lock

You could get a guarder clear hopup rubber and a madbull black python barrel (I believe the barrel lenght in a G36C is 247mm) and put them in if you really wanted to upgrade it straight away. It would increase the range and accuracy of your gun.

As for sidearm its more to do with the make of a sidearm whether its good or not. It would probably be better to say which pistol your interested in. That way people can give you the pros and cons of the different makes and you can go from there.

everlast75

Dread-Lock wrote: »

You could get a guarder clear hopup rubber and a madbull black python barrel (I believe the barrel lenght in a G36C is 247mm) and put them in if you really wanted to upgrade it straight away. It would increase the range and accuracy of your gun.

As for sidearm its more to do with the make of a sidearm whether its good or not. It would probably be better to say which pistol your interested in. That way people can give you the pros and cons of the different makes and you can go from there.

Cheers man.

Will check out the first two - sounds exactly like what i'm looking for. Would a vertical grip also be a runner?

Re: Sidearm, like I mentioned about the WE brand of pistol would be the preferred make (as I've read and heard great things about them).

I was thinking...

http://cmoreairsoft.com/product_info.php?cPath=3_10&products_id=166

or

http://airsoftguns.ie/lang-pl/airsoft-pistols-gbb/72-we-meu-railed-airsoft-gbb-pistol-tan.html

This was also a runner, but it looks a little plain for me..

http://airsoftguns.ie/lang-pl/airsoft-pistols-gbb/22-kjw-m9-ia-fm-elite.html


P.S. Love the signature!

$kilkenny

I dont know much about pistols myself but i can tell you that a foregrip is entirely up to yourself!
personelly i dont like them... i rather feel the metal of my RIS than a crappy plstic grip that feels like it could fall off... and it also gets in my way

thats only my opinion, some people love them and wouldnt use a gun without them but we all have our own ways

best thing is to go airsofting and ask someone who has one can you just try it for a minute.
if you like it then there not hard to get even if you want a special one i.e folding, Grip/ bipod etc then you could ask a retailer or try the adverts section here for a look for one.


as for the guarder/madbull combo... perfect! the choice of many myself included.

i think someone should put up a sticky on the basics of upgrading as this question has come up alot lately.

everlast75

$kilkenny wrote: »

I dont know much about pistols myself but i can tell you that a foregrip is entirely up to yourself!
personelly i dont like them... i rather feel the metal of my RIS than a crappy plstic grip that feels like it could fall off... and it also gets in my way

thats only my opinion, some people love them and wouldnt use a gun without them but we all have our own ways

best thing is to go airsofting and ask someone who has one can you just try it for a minute.
if you like it then there not hard to get even if you want a special one i.e folding, Grip/ bipod etc then you could ask a retailer or try the adverts section here for a look for one.


as for the guarder/madbull combo... perfect! the choice of many myself included.

i think someone should put up a sticky on the basics of upgrading as this question has come up alot lately.

Thanks alot, SG are only up the road from me, so will ask them about performing the 2 upgrades.

Appreciate to point on the grip too - maybe the shop will have one knocking about to try out.

Any advice on the pistols lads and ladies?

ronan keane

everlast75 wrote: »

Thanks alot, SG are only up the road from me, so will ask them about performing the 2 upgrades.

Appreciate to point on the grip too - maybe the shop will have one knocking about to try out.

Any advice on the pistols lads and ladies?

Personally I go effectiveness over looks so in my opinion go with the M9 Because the Double Stack mag comes in handy

Firekitten

Ronan... a hicappa is a double stack to... nearly ALL airsoft pistols are double stack mags :P even most 1911s.


What to do?

I wouldn't upgrade the g36 yet. THe JG is darn good. Skirmish it a few times, and see what aspect of the gun you think could be better... then aproach it that way.
this 'oh what to upgrade' route is a slippery one... people could say 'everything' Its entirely personal. That gun, its an awesome one, good alrounder, just try it first...


Pistol wise, if you want reliable, I'd go for most things KWA/KSC, TM pistols just dont break... or possibly the tercel 1911s? very nice.

ronan keane

Firekitten wrote: »

Ronan... a hicappa is a double stack to... nearly ALL airsoft pistols are double stack mags :P even most 1911s.


What to do?

I wouldn't upgrade the g36 yet. THe JG is darn good. Skirmish it a few times, and see what aspect of the gun you think could be better... then aproach it that way.
this 'oh what to upgrade' route is a slippery one... people could say 'everything' Its entirely personal. That gun, its an awesome one, good alrounder, just try it first...


Pistol wise, if you want reliable, I'd go for most things KWA/KSC, TM pistols just dont break... or possibly the tercel 1911s? very nice.

Damn my KWA 1911 is single stack

everlast75

Firekitten wrote: »

Ronan... a hicappa is a double stack to... nearly ALL airsoft pistols are double stack mags :P even most 1911s.


What to do?

I wouldn't upgrade the g36 yet. THe JG is darn good. Skirmish it a few times, and see what aspect of the gun you think could be better... then aproach it that way.
this 'oh what to upgrade' route is a slippery one... people could say 'everything' Its entirely personal. That gun, its an awesome one, good alrounder, just try it first...


Pistol wise, if you want reliable, I'd go for most things KWA/KSC, TM pistols just dont break... or possibly the tercel 1911s? very nice.

Appreciate the advice, thanks!

The thing is, I have no experience of how the gun may fire with the upgrade, so if others have done so and notice the change, I'd be happy to go with their recommends Plus, got a price on the upgrade from SG and whilst is not the same brand as those suggested, 73e and the job will be done

Re the pistol, I really am a slave to cool items.. I will try out a few of the pistols when I'm dropping the gun in tomorrow and see what I like best. The fact that there doesn't seem to be any negative remarks on the ones I've selected can't be that bad

Firekitten

mm, what brands are they recomending?

I'd personally go for madbull barrel and blue rubber... brand makes a big differnce.


As for the pistols... just avoid the hicappa dragon... its a brick for gas consumption, and a bit naff.

everlast75

Firekitten wrote: »

mm, what brands are they recomending?

I'd personally go for madbull barrel and blue rubber... brand makes a big differnce.


As for the pistols... just avoid the hicappa dragon... its a brick for gas consumption, and a bit naff.

Thought the brand might make a difference alright, good thing I posted to be sure - thanks a mill! I've mailed them asking if they can get those parts in, or alternatively, if I get them, will they fit 'em!

Sad to hear about the hi-cappa just wanted something unique and I think it can be safely called that

Dread-Lock

Stuff like verticle grips are a personal thing. I myself like them and use them on most of my guns, others don't. So its not really something we can suggest, you either like them or you don't .

SG sell Lonex barrels, from what I've heard they give the same performance as a madbull barrel. Although I can't say myself as I've never used one.
SG also sell the Guarder clear hopup rubbers so you should be good to go there.

As for pistols yeah the WE Hi-Cappa Dragon isn't great at all. I have the 7" version myself. But I bought it knowing it wasn't the greatest. I just use it for plinking and the like. It uses so much gas I normally won't even get a full mag out of it. I also find it not the most comfortable pistol to hold, but thats a personal thing.

As far as I know WE pistols are decent enough, but theres definitely better brands out there. Tercel make a good, cheap 1911.
Although to be honest you'd really want to get a CO2 pistol for Irish weather, as green gas pistol don't work very well in winter if they work at all. KJWorks make a very nice CO2 1911.

Inari

As people have already said, manufacturer have a lot to do with what side arm to choose.

- KWC: Reliable out of the box, and fantastic magazines. Where they fall down is their accuracy - they're decent, don't get me wrong, but they just can't compete with the likes of TM

- KJW: Fantastic pistols, in my opinion. They are not as accurate as TM, but they are a lot better in terms of accuracy than KWC. Their Co2 range are some of the best out there.

- TM: The BEST GBB (green gas) pistols in terms of accuracy and reliability. You pay for it, but it's worth it.

- KSC/KWA: Good quality replicas

- Marushin: Nice and unusual replicas - but they're not fantastic in terms of performance. No denying their quality, nor determination to do things different.

- Tanaka: The only properly skirmishable revolvers

- Inokatsu: ...I'm waiting.

- WE: WE-Tech pistols...they're an anomaly. Stay well away from their early stuff (Luger, Dragon etc), as they're prone to death. All WE's eat gas, and lots of it. They're decent replicas, but performance out of them is not fantastic - getting them accurate will normally require better barrel & hop, as opposed to the simple adjustment of the likes of KJW.

If I think of more, I'll add it later - pretty tired at the mo

Typhon

I had one of those hicappa 5.1 dragons and I must say it was WOEFUL! The thing looked ace and had a nice hard kick but it ATE the gas. I would get (if lucky) 13 rounds off before the well was empty. Avoid it like the plague lol

everlast75

Thanks alot folks.

Typhon - duly noted - will steer clear from that pistol, as I want it for skirmishing

I ordered the parts as suggested by Dread-Lock and Firekitten, which should be here tomorrow!

Re Pistol - KJW seem to be the way to go, so on the lookout for a 2nd hand one. Do any of the retailers stock 2nd hand stuff?

Firekitten

I'm not sure I'd go for KJ myself... but people here seem happy enough... I've always been a TM pistol, and KSC fan myself.

swiftblade

KJ make some lovely pistols. Their M9 especially.

If you can afford it though, TM are the way to go.

everlast75

picking up one of these from one of the lads from here...


http://airsoftguns.ie/lang-pl/airsoft-pistols-gbb/66-kjw-m9-ia-fm-elite.html

Read inari's post on "what hand gun are you using" thread and this one and that made my mind up...

Hope to be flanking and picking off the enemy real soon :cool:

swiftblade

I done a review of their M9 not long ago (not the railed version) . It really is a lovely pistol for the price.
It will serve you well

Inari

You sure about the green gas version? You're better off with Co2, at least in my opinion. The Co2 can use both mags, whereas the green gas one can only use the green gas mags.

You'd be looking at an extra €20 for the Co2 version. The green gas mags are pretty available, whereas the Co2 ones are not so available. I'd strongly recommend the Co2 version.

I do agree with Firekitten though - KJW are great pistols, and the company are great to deal with, but KSC/KWA and TM ARE more accurate. There are no two ways about that. KJW are the best of the Co2 brigade, and their pistols have a good degree of accuracy, but it's not near the pin-point-ness of the TM stuff.

Also, if you're a fan of pistols just disregard everything I've said. Why? You'll own 'em all at some stage anyway

everlast75

Inari wrote: »

You sure about the green gas version? You're better off with Co2, at least in my opinion. The Co2 can use both mags, whereas the green gas one can only use the green gas mags.

You'd be looking at an extra €20 for the Co2 version. The green gas mags are pretty available, whereas the Co2 ones are not so available. I'd strongly recommend the Co2 version.

I do agree with Firekitten though - KJW are great pistols, and the company are great to deal with, but KSC/KWA and TM ARE more accurate. There are no two ways about that. KJW are the best of the Co2 brigade, and their pistols have a good degree of accuracy, but it's not near the pin-point-ness of the TM stuff.

Also, if you're a fan of pistols just disregard everything I've said. Why? You'll own 'em all at some stage anyway

Sorry - meant to post this...

http://airsoftguns.ie/lang-pl/airsoft-pistols-gbb/65-kjw-m9a1.html

Its the CO2 version for sure

Re: owning them all, I guess you are prob right. The lad I bought this one off has a rake of them - will prob end up with the 1911 and Sig at some stage soon

Appreciate the advice folks, will revert with my thoughts in due course

Firekitten

I guess im still scarred from the days when KJW were pot metal useless things that blew up in seconds, vented, and generally fell apart without so much as an on target shot. thier USP, Sigs, m9s especially... Thier old para ord was the exception... that thing ran for ever.

KSC/KWA have always been the manufacturer to whom id turn. Reliable and just impressive.