chalenging parking charges in hosps

Resend

What would be the chances of successfully taking an action against parking charges in hospitals. I think it is 4 per hour and you have to pay to get out.

Also what about challenging clamping in non car park area hospital grounds
Several people have said clampers operate illegally so why does someone not take a legal challenge?

And if say the hospital, or a supermarket park, put a notice to say that cars will be clamped if they are parked where they deem unacceptable, does that make the work of the clampers legal?

Paulw

Resend wrote: »

Several people have said clampers operate illegally so why does someone not take a legal challenge?

Probably due to cost. It would require taking a case to court, and since you have no way to be sure you could win, it could be an expensive case to take.

No one seems to be willing to put their money down to take a case.

So, in that way, it's not illegal, it seems.

coylemj

The hospital grounds are owned by the board or trustees of the hospital, they are well entitled to charge for parking. By entering the grounds you are implicitly accepting the conditions of entry, one of which is that you pay for parking.

Hospitals have a choice: one is to leave parking open and free and let everyone park wherever they want which will lead to chaos because of the selfish nature of a lot of motorists, just look at the obnoxious parking thread.

The alternative is to build a car park, either by setting aside a surface area for parking or by building a multi-storey car park and charging people for the privilege.

It's well known that people who worked nearby were in the habit of abusing hospital car parks when they were free, especially when local authorities started to charge for daytime parking on the street so the hospitals have no choice but to charge, otherwise they would be used as a free car park by all and sundry.

The same happened with the Burlington and Jurys hotels as soon as pay and display parking was introduced on the public streets in D4, they had no choice but to put up barriers and start charging for parking.

Resend

coylemj wrote: »

The hospital grounds are owned by the board or trustees of the hospital, they are well entitled to charge for parking. By entering the grounds you are implicitly accepting the conditions of entry, one of which is that you pay for parking.

Hospitals have a choice: one is to leave parking open and free and let everyone park wherever they want which will lead to chaos because of the selfish nature of a lot of motorists, just look at the obnoxious parking thread.

The alternative is to build a car park, either by setting aside a surface area for parking or by building a multi-storey car park and charging people for the privilege.

It's well known that people who worked nearby were in the habit of abusing hospital car parks when they were free, especially when local authorities started to charge for daytime parking on the street so the hospitals have no choice but to charge, otherwise they would be used as a free car park by all and sundry.

The same happened with the Burlington and Jurys hotels as soon as pay and display parking was introduced on the public streets in D4, they had no choice but to put up barriers and start charging for parking.

i do not agree with that and am not talking about people abusing the car park but of the way the HSE are making money off visitors to sick. no comparison to burlington

It's well known that people who worked nearby were in the habit of abusing hospital car parks when they were free,

well known to who? i never heard of it in the hospi refer to

source

Resend wrote: »

i do not agree with that and am not talking about people abusing the car park but of the way the HSE are making money off visitors to sick. no comparison to burlington

well known to who? i never heard of it in the hospi refer to

It used to happen all the time in the Regional in Limerick, The worst ones were the staff parking in the visitors car park because it was closer to the building than the staff car park, which visitors couldn't park in because you needed a pass to get past the gate. Then they brought in paid parking and while some times there was a problem getting a space a good 80% of the time you'd have no problem.

Now the whole lay out has changed a number of times since then. But it was a problem in the past.

coylemj

Resend wrote: »

i do not agree with that and am not talking about people abusing the car park but of the way the HSE are making money off visitors to sick. no comparison to burlington

well known to who? i never heard of it in the hospi refer to

Well you got your answer in the post above from foinse, in the case quoted it was the hospital staff who were abusing the car park because they were too lazy to walk the extra distance from their own car park. So the hospital had to introduce paid parking simply to force the staff to use their own car park and leave the public car park free for visitors who had to pay for the privilege because of the laziness of the staff, not the greed of the hospital.

If you look at St. Vincent's and Beaumont in Dublin, those hospitals have multistorey car parks which cost money to build and the only equitable way to recoup the cost is to charge the people who use them. Just because someone is visiting a patient doesn't entitle them to free parking.

It is a sad fact of life that people do not appreciate anything they get for nothing so in my view hospitals are right to make people park in designated areas, charge them for the privilege and clamp them if they just abandon their car anywhere they choose outside the designated areas.

Victor

Resend wrote: »

What would be the chances of successfully taking an action against parking charges in hospitals. I think it is 4 per hour and you have to pay to get out.

So you want to divert resources from medical treatment to the provision of car parking?

If families are that far put out by car parking charges there are things that can be done.

Resend

can people keep to the topic or not respond.

source

Resend wrote: »

can people keep to the topic or not respond.

Everyone who's posted has been on topic.

Resend

foinse wrote: »

Everyone who's posted has been on topic.

i am only interested in the legal aspect of it

kippy

Resend wrote: »

i am only interested in the legal aspect of it

What do you see that is illegal about it?

Paulw

Resend wrote: »

i am only interested in the legal aspect of it

If you believe that anything being done is illegal, then speak to a solicitor and take a case to court. Mind you, it could be expensive for you.

coylemj

Resend wrote: »

What would be the chances of successfully taking an action against parking charges in hospitals. I think it is 4 per hour and you have to pay to get out.

coylemj wrote: »

The hospital grounds are owned by the board or trustees of the hospital, they are well entitled to charge for parking. By entering the grounds you are implicitly accepting the conditions of entry, one of which is that you pay for parking.

Resend wrote: »

i am only interested in the legal aspect of it

OK, well then address the reply I gave you. Either you agree with what I said in which case there's not much point in proceeding further, or rebut it and let's talk!