Best diesel for €10k?

Atomic Pineapple

Simple really, whats the best diesel car you can get for €10k these days?

Its for one person who rarely has more than two people in the car, doesn't need it to haul things around, just for a daily commute of around 100 - 150 miles a day.

Bit of power would be a bonus, willing to get it mapped if needs be, but its not essential.

NO OCTAVIA vRS's !!

I've very little interest in diesels so said I'd stick this up and see, I'm thinking a 1.8+ Turbo diesel hatchback of some kind?

Any opinions?

Kimbot

draffodx wrote: »

Simple really, whats the best diesel car you can get for €10k these days?

Its for one person who rarely has more than two people in the car, doesn't need it to haul things around, just for a daily commute of around 100 - 150 miles a day.

Bit of power would be a bonus, willing to get it mapped if needs be, but its not essential.

NO OCTAVIA vRS's !!

I've very little interest in diesels so said I'd stick this up and see, I'm thinking a 1.8 Turbo diesel hatchback of some kind?

Any opinions?

1.9 Tdi Golf. They are 105BHP as standard and can be chipped to around 140/150 safely. In saying that mine has enough poke and comfort to do me

EPM

Accord diesel? Has to be more reliable than a VAG:D

Atomic Pineapple

jonny24ie wrote: »

1.9 Tdi Golf. They are 105BHP as standard and can be chipped to around 140/150 safely. In saying that mine has enough poke and comfort to do me

Recommendations other than VAG cars would be higher up the list

TestTransmission

jonny24ie wrote: »

1.9 Tdi Golf. They are 105BHP as standard and can be chipped to around 140/150 safely. In saying that mine has enough poke and comfort to do me

150 is a tad bit on the optimistic side don't ya think?

Ricardo G

Vectra sri cdti 150bhp
€308 to tax for the year !, still a fresh looking car despite the introduction of the Insignia. Can't post a link but a very nice 08 model on donedeal with only 30,000 miles for 10k, 9 cash would take her i'd imagine

Twin-go

Alfa Romeo GT 1.9 JTD

150 Bhp remap to 180bhp and 45mpg

€10k should get you a 05/06
Leather/Bose Stereo/Alloys etc.

Close thread/

thirtythirty

draffodx wrote: »

Recommendations other than VAG cars would be higher up the list

Civic (hatchback) 2.2 i-CTDI?

Great interior specs, nice to drive, great reliability, VAG-esque depreciation curve. They seem to be a love/hate car with regards to looks. I'm in the love camp

MPG:




Power before and after remapping:



You can find lots more info here

Atomic Pineapple

182ps? Thats impressive enough! But would €10k get one?

thirtythirty

draffodx wrote: »

182ps? Thats impressive enough! But would €10k get one?

That's good, but i think the 400lbs torque is even more impressive. Standard before a remap is 140 and 300 -ish I think.

You'd get a v good spec one for 10k.
Above the SE trim level you get cruise control which might suit you too

e.g.

A nice black one

A sporty red one

or, if you wanted to swap for your ST, you could always try this guy who has it mapped up to 193 bhp already!

Squall19

02 MG ZR 2.0 turbo diesel. Under 3k easy

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1733699

05 Seat Leon Fr 1.9 tdi 150bhp, newer model's look much better but I heard the early ( 05-07 ) 2.0l turbo diesel's are troublesome.

Worth under 5k I think

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1978128

05 Opel Astra Sri 150bhp 1.9, under 5k would buy this too imo.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2139506

02 Audi A3 1.9tdi 130bhp, 3k

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2139506

06 Alfa Romeo GT JTD 150bhp.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2147347

ALFA GT would be my first choice, would love one.Astra 150bhp are nice as well.

Drummerboy08

Mondeo ST does it for me.

You'll get a well sorted car for that money.

pajo1981

2005 84KMiles Peugeot 407 EXECUTIVE HDI 136 bhp €5,150

"Electric seats and all windows, electric sunroof, parking sensors, electric mirrors, alloy wheels, CD changer auto lights and wipers and lots more extras."

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Peugeot/407/EXECUTIV/201118202242106/advert?channel=CARS

shawnee

pajo1981 wrote: »

2005 84KMiles Peugeot 407 EXECUTIVE HDI 136 bhp €5,150

"Electric seats and all windows, electric sunroof, parking sensors, electric mirrors, alloy wheels, CD changer auto lights and wipers and lots more extras."

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Peugeot/407/EXECUTIV/201118202242106/advert?channel=CARS

A lot of car for 5k , particularly if you are a peugeot fan !

Atomic Pineapple

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

Mondeo ST does it for me.

You'll get a well sorted car for that money.

They seem to be light on the ground in the republic though, going to the UK for one make sense?

MidlandsM

draffodx wrote: »

They seem to be light on the ground in the republic though, going to the UK for one make sense?

yep,the uk is the source for these but I'd buy from an enthuasiast if poss, but btw- they command good sterling prices in the uk, but at least Sterlings weak at the mo....

Kimbot

TestTransmission wrote: »

150 is a tad bit on the optimistic side don't ya think?

Not optamistic at all mate, 2 lads in work got them chipped. 1 got theirs done at 140 and the other was done to 150.

I have seen custom remap files for them at 167/169bhp over in the UK. Only problem with thats is you will have to change the clutch and flywheel along side the remap and will cause big problems down the line.

Atomic Pineapple

spottyelephant wrote: »

That's good, but i think the 400lbs torque is even more impressive. Standard before a remap is 140 and 300 -ish I think.

You'd get a v good spec one for 10k.
Above the SE trim level you get cruise control which might suit you too

e.g.

A nice black one

A sporty red one

or, if you wanted to swap for your ST, you could always try this guy who has it mapped up to 193 bhp already!

They are all on the old cc based tax, I doubt €10k would stretch to a 2008?

€156 versus €860, would depend on the price difference between that 2007 and a 2008 to see if it would be worth going for a 2008, but a quick search there suggests 2008 ones command a good bit more than €10k.

thirtythirty

draffodx wrote: »

They are all on the old cc based tax, I doubt €10k would stretch to a 2008?

€156 versus €860, would depend on the price difference between that 2007 and a 2008 to see if it would be worth going for a 2008, but a quick search there suggests 2008 ones command a good bit more than €10k.

Hmm, ye it would require finding the right deal alright.

For example if you could get this guy down to £6800 (about €7700), then VRT is €2400 I believe which puts you right on the 10k mark.

Edit: Here's another cheap one that gets you inside the threshold.

The odd one inside that budget pops up now and then, otherwise you're looking at 11 or 12k - depends on what you can get for the ST.

Having said that, 2007 are significantly cheaper - about 2k cheaper. And there's always those rumours that the emissions tax banding is going to be extended down from 2008, which would line you up for cheaper tax in the future! Not ideal though I agree. Although not any different than if you get any other 1.8+ engine under 2008 as people have been suggesting!

Drummerboy08

draffodx wrote: »

They seem to be light on the ground in the republic though, going to the UK for one make sense?

Absolutely worth it for that kind of car.

Lord Derpington

If your willing to haggle a bit
2008 honda accord sport GT

VRT is €2,670

Bargin compared to what people look for them here
2008 Honda Accord Cork

Smoggy

sorry to be slow.
BUT Whats a VAG Driver ?

Squall19

spottyelephant wrote: »

That's good, but i think the 400lbs torque is even more impressive. Standard before a remap is 140 and 300 -ish I think.

Your talking nm I think, a diesel Civic wont get near 400lb ft torque without some serious work.

Not a particular strong engine anyway, stock 140bhp and 250lb/ft torque isnt that great for a 2.2 diesel.

BMW, VW, Volvo etc are all making alot more with there 2.0 diesels.

If your going to spend the 10k+ on a quick diesel hatch I would buy something like below, it would blow the Civic away.

BMW 120D 177bhp, 258 lb/ft stock.

They would produce well over 200bhp mapped.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201122388507367/sort/priceasc/usedcars/fuel-type/diesel/maximum-age/up_to_3_years_old/model/1_series/make/bmw/radius/1500/keywords/120d/page/1/postcode/m52ty?logcode=p

thirtythirty

Squall19 wrote: »

Your talking nm I think, a diesel Civic wont get near 400lb ft torque without some serious work.

Not a particular strong engine anyway, stock 140bhp and 250lb/ft torque isnt that great for a 2.2 diesel.

BMW, VW, Volvo etc are all making alot more with there 2.0 diesels.

If your going to spend the 10k+ on a quick diesel hatch I would buy something like below, it would blow the Civic away.

BMW 120D 177bhp, 258 lb/ft stock.

They would produce well over 200bhp mapped.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201122388507367/sort/priceasc/usedcars/fuel-type/diesel/maximum-age/up_to_3_years_old/model/1_series/make/bmw/radius/1500/keywords/120d/page/1/postcode/m52ty?logcode=p

Fair points, and prob yes on the torque

I also really like 1 series, so you'll hear no argument against from me.

Actually, on further reading (Parkers), it seems the 120d and civic have the same stock torque, the bmw has it beat by 20 bhp only, but the civic has 6mpg on it. So the engines aren't as far apart as originally thought

.Longshanks.

Seen a lovely R Design Volvo C30 on the motorway yesterday. It actually made me look twice.....my opinion on these has definitely changed! It was a diesel too, but dunno if it was a 1.6 or a 2.0. Would a 07-08 be in budget yet?

Atomic Pineapple

€10k doesn't seem to stretch to a 2008 Civic which is a pity and there is a serious lack of 120d's around for €10k also.

kev_Longshanks100 wrote: »

Seen a lovely R Design Volvo C30 on the motorway yesterday. It actually made me look twice.....my opinion on these has definitely changed! It was a diesel too, but dunno if it was a 1.6 or a 2.0. Would a 07-08 be in budget yet?

Yeh they look class but I think they are pretty slow?

R.O.R

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1.6d would be pretty slow, but the 2.0d is damn nippy in the S40 so should be slightly better in the C30. Rare as fcuk though as the few that bought went either FF or 1.6d.

Atomic Pineapple

R.O.R wrote: »

1.6d would be pretty slow, but the 2.0d is damn nippy in the S40 so should be slightly better in the C30. Rare as fcuk though as the few that bought went either FF or 1.6d.

The good old tradition of Irish people buying the runt of the litter is alive and well!