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AI sire help

  • 12-06-2011 5:47pm
    #1
    stanflt
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    im looking for info on shottle sons that are coming thru for next year- cogent twist is one i looked at but his calving interval is terrible- cant use icbf if i dont know ai code or bull name. bulls im looking for must have at least 18kg fat and 18kg prot and must be both positive on %- might be a big ask but would appreciate the help-


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  • #2
    bogman_bass
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    unlikely that you'll find one with Shottle being so high in milk and negitive solids himself


  • #3
    stanflt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,672 ✭✭✭stanflt


    bogman_bass wrote: »
    unlikely that you'll find one with Shottle being so high in milk and negitive solids himself


    cogent twist s1036 has it so others will but his fertility is poor


  • #4
    funny man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭funny man


    did you try to run a sire select on icbf


  • #5
    jeff greene
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    Is Twist really that bad fertility wise, +1.2 days with decent survivability? Great milk and good linear! I'd use him no problem.

    I'd wait, I'm sure there are many more sons on the way.


  • #6
    funny man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭funny man


    jeff greene wrote: »
    Is Twist really that bad fertility wise, +1.2 days with decent survivability? Great milk and good linear! I'd use him no problem.

    I'd wait, I'm sure there are many more sons on the way.


    With ETAZON CELSIUS in the blood line poor fertility will be an issue, fertility sub index -108 calving interval +8.11 days and survival -.99%, i don't think they come much worse.


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  • #7
    jeff greene
    Closed Accounts Posts: 733 ✭✭✭jeff greene


    funny man wrote: »
    With ETAZON CELSIUS in the blood line poor fertility will be an issue, fertility sub index -108 calving interval +8.11 days and survival -.99%, i don't think they come much worse.

    Fair enough but Twist has his own proof albeit low enough number of daughters yet, if you go back into every pedigree you'll see undesirable bulls for one reason or another. Thats why its best to use proven bulls with at least 100 daughters.


  • #8
    funny man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭funny man


    jeff greene wrote: »
    Fair enough but Twist has his own proof albeit low enough number of daughters yet, if you go back into every pedigree you'll see undesirable bulls for one reason or another. Thats why its best to use proven bulls with at least 100 daughters.

    i'll second that


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