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Tension in dual counties?

  • 11-06-2011 3:21pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭


    I live in Cork and a lot of 'football' people I know don't want the hurlers to do well because they see they see as 'tin pot' as only a few counties are serious about it and if they do well, it affects the football attendances. :D

    Anyone else have similar experiences?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 DodgeyKeeper


    I also live in Cork and i personally have never felt this "tension". Could understand if this was coming from people from west cork as its all football but it certainly isn't the case for the rest of the county


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 34,467 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Tension - you must be having a laugh. You think that some cork people want cork hurlers to lose because of the cork footballers attendances- laughable to be fair. The Cork GAA fan would not be thinking anything so idiotic in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,546 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    As Cork person I have always supported both codes equal. I know you get different areas which may support one over the other but 99% of people still want to see their county do well, be it hurling or football.. I know some people have a preference alright like my Dad be more of a hurling man but was still cheering like any Cork Gaa fan when they lifted Sam last year.

    You will always get a handful but its very very small.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭phkk


    Can definitely feel the tension in Cork!!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 34,467 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    phkk wrote: »
    Can definitely feel the tension in Cork!!

    Good for you:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭Dr. Nick


    Try living in a hurling parish in Meath...........all decent hurlers get called to play football eventually so there'll never, ever be a proper hurling team in any football stronghold. Ergo, the hurling strongholds will continue for ever, and ever, and ever...........

    Simples!

    (btw, credit to Wexford who have somewhat bucked the trend a little, especially since it's a strong soccer county)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Kojak


    This tension crap that the OP is on about is bullshít. In a dual county it is rare that the two sports are very strong at the same time. Look at Cork at the moment - the footballers are AI champs while the hurlers are competitive, but nothing more. A few years ago it was the other way round with the hurlers winning AI's and the footballers hoping to win Munster.

    galway is the same - when the footballers are going well, everyone is a football person. When the hurlers look like they are going to so something (like last year when they won the league) then eveyone thinks Liam is going to cross the shannon. :rolleyes:

    If managed correctly, there isn't or shouldn't be any tension between the football people and the hurling people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Micko23


    I take it you mean dual county as in having relative success in both codes?

    You're lucky to be in that situation!

    You might find more tension in counties where there is a definite weaker code. The usual stuff like fixture and training arrangments at club level, dual player availability etc..

    I really doubt it would be to the extent of people resenting attendances at the other code.

    Who is on this 'dual' list anyway?

    I'll make a stab..

    Cork
    Dublin
    Galway
    Wexford
    Limerick?
    Antrim?
    Offaly?


    ...Carlow


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,149 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    Dr. Nick wrote: »
    Try living in a hurling parish in Meath...........all decent hurlers get called to play football eventually so there'll never, ever be a proper hurling team in any football stronghold. Ergo, the hurling strongholds will continue for ever, and ever, and ever...........

    Simples!

    (btw, credit to Wexford who have somewhat bucked the trend a little, especially since it's a strong soccer county)

    its a huge problem in Wexford at the moment, and it is getting worse. the footballers improving is making a lot of hurling only people get quite defensive and certain former high profile hurlers have been heard saying very derogatory remarks on the success of the footballers. one said after we beat Armagh, that the result has set hurling back 20 years. others were not exactly overjoyed at us winning the U21 leinster football this year. In the week coming up to the Leinster final, one of the selctors went to national media whinging that the dual players werent at hurling training. 3 months before their opening game, and in the week of a provincial final. ridiculous stuff. and the problem now is that the football crowd want parity and equal standings. with most of the county teams, underage etc, the hurlers get the choice of the players, and in the past, hurling managers have said they wont tolerate dual players, that they have to commit to the hurling. its gotten messy, and it will be like that for a while, because no matter how well the footballers do, they still never get the support they deserve. most people in Wexford favour the hurling, and the football team get a very paltry support. its just the way it is.

    not sure about being a strong soccer county either, wouldnt have thought it was much different to any other county to be honest.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    Godot. wrote: »
    I live in Cork and a lot of 'football' people I know don't want the hurlers to do well because they see they see as 'tin pot' as only a few counties are serious about it and if they do well, it affects the football attendances. :D

    Anyone else have similar experiences?

    Is it west cork you are living in??

    To be honest, the Cork footballers have been the poor cousins of the footballers for years now at this stage, only starting to change a bit now!

    I don't see any tension within the mens game, but I do see it within the ladies game - with football and camogie clashing on a regular basis, and people not being able to be flexible


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Onthe3rdDay


    It's a issue alright. When I was at school Hurling was basically banned (as were all other sports) as it could detract from the Football team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭J Cheever Loophole


    Micko23 wrote: »
    I take it you mean dual county as in having relative success in both codes?

    Who is on this 'dual' list anyway?

    I'll make a stab..

    Cork
    Dublin
    Galway
    Wexford
    Limerick?
    Antrim?
    Offaly?


    ...Carlow

    Ahem....!!!! :cool:

    Yes, there are no tensions in Armagh that I'm aware of!! ;)


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